Yes i know. But what i've read is MDA is similar to MDMA but just with a slighty more psychedelic touch. But nothing major like psilocybin or LSD
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Yes i know. But what i've read is MDA is similar to MDMA but just with a slighty more psychedelic touch. But nothing major like psilocybin or LSD
FadingGlow
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Unless you take enough. I've tripped harder off of large doses of MDA crystal then anything else in my life, including lsd mushrooms and 2c's.
I've seen objects turn into different things that weren't there. The hallucinations you can get off MDA are far different, they appear to really be there visually. Objects can morph into totally different objects, you can see sunglasses people who aren't wearing sunglasses. Some people even talk to people who aren't there. ( mostly females I've found...seems it effects girls more then guys )
I always mentally know the hallucinations aren't real and they aren't scary to me at all but it's not the same for some people.
I've only had this effect with higher doses of the stuff though. I don't usually start to trip out until about 5 hours in.
It's also varies person to person far far more then mdma does.
I know tons of people that heavily prefer MDA, including strike himself from the hive.
I also knows tons who hate the stuff so much because it makes them far to loopy and trip out in a weird way.
Keep in mind I'm speaking of MDA, not 6-apb.
IF 4-MMC can not be had. Do you think the best RC entactogen would be a combo of MDAI/BK-mdma OR butylone/BK-mdma. Or what else would be best to combo M1 with. I was kind of worried about more stim being added by butylone I already feel geeked on M1 Thanks for any answers.
Potrick
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I'm not sure. M1 is pretty speedy already? Why would you want to mix RC's? Is there an effect you are looking for? Personally Methylone feels like MDMA except this:
Timeline for MDMA:
Onset: About 20-30 Minutes
Coming up: For me about 10-15 Minutes
Plateau - 2-3 Hours (Although I have a high metabolism so it's closer to two)
Coming Down: Uncomfortably for about an hour or so and still can't sleep after that
To be back at baseline I need probably 5 hours and then I can sleep.
Methylone:
Onset: 20-30 Minutes
Coming up: 20-40 Minutes
Plateau:1 hour
Coming Down: 2Hours
Baseline at 4 hours
Methylone does not have the full serotonin affinity that MDMA does so you don't get that loving push. It's more internalized. I have a tendency to be more anti-social when on Methylone, more focused on my own emotions, which seem to be portrayed and exemplified on M1. For example if I am upset about something in my life, I'm going to focus on working through those emotions. I can't really explain that part well. But anyway. Methylone does feel more clear headed, but the push is not as good as MDMA. You aren't really rolling when you take Methylone. It's more like an anti-depressant. However many people claim the come-down is dysphoric, and it can be. You may not want to take methylone if you have to talk with people later. However, I've taken Methylone in place of MDMA for amusement parks, events, etc, and the other thing I noticed is how speedy it really does feel. You won't want to sit still. Unless maybe you are soaring down a huge roller coaster.
Timeline for MDMA:
Onset: About 20-30 Minutes
Coming up: For me about 10-15 Minutes
Plateau - 2-3 Hours (Although I have a high metabolism so it's closer to two)
Coming Down: Uncomfortably for about an hour or so and still can't sleep after that
To be back at baseline I need probably 5 hours and then I can sleep.
Methylone:
Onset: 20-30 Minutes
Coming up: 20-40 Minutes
Plateau:1 hour
Coming Down: 2Hours
Baseline at 4 hours
Methylone does not have the full serotonin affinity that MDMA does so you don't get that loving push. It's more internalized. I have a tendency to be more anti-social when on Methylone, more focused on my own emotions, which seem to be portrayed and exemplified on M1. For example if I am upset about something in my life, I'm going to focus on working through those emotions. I can't really explain that part well. But anyway. Methylone does feel more clear headed, but the push is not as good as MDMA. You aren't really rolling when you take Methylone. It's more like an anti-depressant. However many people claim the come-down is dysphoric, and it can be. You may not want to take methylone if you have to talk with people later. However, I've taken Methylone in place of MDMA for amusement parks, events, etc, and the other thing I noticed is how speedy it really does feel. You won't want to sit still. Unless maybe you are soaring down a huge roller coaster.
The plan so far is trying out 5-APB and then im ordering a little sample of 6-APB aswell. To see which one i prefer.
If thats not the thing im looking for, im gonna take the risk ordering M1 illegaly.
Bonus question: How long does it take for MXE tolerance to be back to baseline?
If thats not the thing im looking for, im gonna take the risk ordering M1 illegaly.
Bonus question: How long does it take for MXE tolerance to be back to baseline?
FadingGlow
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MDAI & GHB, wonder if that would be a good combo lol.
(The whole idea came from GHB being known as liquid ecstasy, and that IIRC it releases dopamine, whereas MDAi is serotonergic)
It actually started as a kinda joke, that turned out it could maybe work well...
(The whole idea came from GHB being known as liquid ecstasy, and that IIRC it releases dopamine, whereas MDAi is serotonergic)
It actually started as a kinda joke, that turned out it could maybe work well...
FadingGlow
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MDAI + MPA usually seems to be the common route when it comes to RC's, as both are easily obtainable.
GHB is rather hard to obtain and GBL just isn't the same.
But honestly, the neurotoxicity studies that were done on MDAI were done well, on MDAI, not on MDAI + a dopamine releasing agent. I'd be willing to bet that MDAI isn't so non-neurotoxic in the latter situation.
So what's the point really?
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Suppose you could convert the GBL to GHB though, apparently its easy.
It probably is neurotoxic, who knows really, but just because I read this...
And that the thread is about MDMA-like RC's, maybe with GHB would be like MDMA...
FadingGlow
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Yes converting GBL to GHB is rather easy but not something most people would even try to attempt. If you know anything about chemistry really at all it wouldn't be that hard.
I didn't bring up GHB. Somebody else did. I was just saying, it's not a very viable solution for most people because it is rather unobtainable. GBL has similiar effects but more side effects. It's sort of like comparing adrafinil to modafinil. It's just not quite the same.
I don't really advise normal people to go trying to convert anything to anything without some prior knowledge or the presence of somebody who does.
6-apb for sure is like a really good pill.
loads of euphoria, no amphetamine push. can be quite intense over 120mg in my experience, but i absolutely loved it. 6-7 hour duration and a smooth tail off and zero comedown.
Makes your eyes massive like old skool pills did back in the 90s.
loads of euphoria, no amphetamine push. can be quite intense over 120mg in my experience, but i absolutely loved it. 6-7 hour duration and a smooth tail off and zero comedown.
Makes your eyes massive like old skool pills did back in the 90s.
Lady Codone
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I've found 4-FA to be pretty similar, albeit far less intense/euphoric. My MDMA-imitation cocktail is thus:
*4-FA (Stimulation, light/floaty body high)
*Methylone (Euphoria, empathy)
*Poppy tea (Calmness, tranquility)
Just be careful about combining drugs and watch your doses. Legal does not necessarily equal safe.
*4-FA (Stimulation, light/floaty body high)
*Methylone (Euphoria, empathy)
*Poppy tea (Calmness, tranquility)
Just be careful about combining drugs and watch your doses. Legal does not necessarily equal safe.
RoLlInG.TwAcKeD
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Best legal MDMA replacement?
Hey guys my question is what is the best (most like MDMA) legal thing to get? Like mdmai, mdea or whatever.. What is the beat legal thing you can get that's almost exacty like MDMA? Also can you include it's effects and experience if you have any? Thanks.
Hey guys my question is what is the best (most like MDMA) legal thing to get? Like mdmai, mdea or whatever.. What is the beat legal thing you can get that's almost exacty like MDMA? Also can you include it's effects and experience if you have any? Thanks.
coelophysis
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Nothing is almost exactly like MDMA. And the legality of things is broad, depending on your area. So you're basically asking for some opinions.
Nothing will ever replace MDMA, it will always be around, doing what it's been doing for years.
You should research things like, Methylone, MDAI, Mephedrone, 6-APB, 5IAI, & 4-FMA. You should also check erowid and the rest of the web for information on their legality in your country.
Nothing will ever replace MDMA, it will always be around, doing what it's been doing for years.
You should research things like, Methylone, MDAI, Mephedrone, 6-APB, 5IAI, & 4-FMA. You should also check erowid and the rest of the web for information on their legality in your country.
Seyer
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Methylone (bk-MDMA) is pretty much the closest you can get to MDMA.
MazDan
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Excellent answer.