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MDMA, Adderall, Alcohol, 4MEC, 4MA, 2FMA festival questions

Randy Marsh

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Hello everybody!

I am going to be going to a 3 day music festival soon, and had some questions about safe usage (to a certain extent / general indulgence is unsafe in itself).
What I have are the following:
-MDMA (Highest quality I've ever had, consisting of mostly crystals. Tested and no doubt it is MDMA)
-Adderall
-Alcohol
-4MEC
-4FA
-2FMA

I did some reading on the ecstasy discussion about harm reduction at festivals. The original plan was to drink before I got to the festival in the morning, and partake in MDMA at night on the first night. Drink the second. And drink the morning of the third day, while doing MDMA again that night.

After much reading, I decided that this may not be the best idea even though I have done MDMA back to back before, with minor negative effects.
I also did some reading about adderall, 4MEC, and alcohol.
I am thinking about doing things like this now:
Drinking the morning of the first day, and throughout the day while also doing no more than 30mg adderall (I'm very sensitive to adderall, and do not need more than that in a day). I also plan to monitor my alcohol intake as from what I gathered the real danger of taking alcohol with adderall is that you can drink too much resulting in alcohol poisoning even though you may not feel drunk or sick. Also, I am no expert so bare with me, but it is my understanding that adderall releases mainly dopamine and not serotonin. This means that the adderall would not diminish the effects of MDMA if I took it sunday night, and would be way less harmful than doing MDMA two nights out of three. Am I right?
Drinking all day the second day.
Third day I was going to have a little to drink during the morning, take 120mg of MDMA at night, and 120mg approximately two hours later.
I will be getting good sleep each night and preloading prior to the festival with a little 5htp and lots of multivitamins.

I also have this 4MEC and was thinking of maybe cutting back on drinking and adding that in the first day, and perhaps adderall the second, and MDMA the third. I am having trouble gathering information about how 4MEC releases dopamine and serotonin. I have read many reports of MDMA and 4MEC combo's, but fear that the 4MEC will have too much of an effect on my serotonin levels and in turn increase the harmfulness and diminish the effects of the MDMA on the third day.

Feel free to throw in your opinions and other possible options.

I read this article about 4-FA and it sort of turned me away from using it one of the nights. I feel as if it would be just as harmful if not more than taking MDMA twice.
http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=175262

I read up on 2-FMA and it seems as if it has heavy serotonin release, so that is out of the question for day one too, right?

Also, this is the only thing I could really find about 4MEC and serotonin / dopamine release. The study relates it to 4MMC and MDPV.
http://www.tripme.co.nz/forums/archive/index.php/t-7413.html?
MDPV is a norepinephrine-dopamine reuptake inhibitor with little releasing efficacy.
4-MMC is a serotonin, norepinephrine, dopamine releaser and reuptake inhibitor, comparable to MDMA/amphetamine/methcathinone.
4-MEC would be expected to be more weighted towards norepinephrine release (compare methcathinone to ethcathinone).

I know this post is kind of confusing. I am just trying to do my best to make the most sense out of what I am reading and be as safe as possible (to an extent)

Thanks for your input!
 
I did a little more research and found that 4MEC is also releases serotonin and dopamine, so I guess it's out of the question too.

This is my preferred method unless someone has a better idea.
Day 1- Drink during the day, 30mg adderall throughout the day.
Day 2- Drink
Day 3- Drinking a little in the morning. 120mg mdma later on and 120mg mdma taken approximately 2 hours later.

Im gonna do some more research, post opinions please
 
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