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MDAT - New experience - Spiral test

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My test subject was a freind who was interested in trying the substance which wikipedia reveals has similar to MDMA effects. I did not try the white powder myself for various reasons which are explained in another thread.

Prior research included reading aforementioned wiki and the contents of the MDAT thread in advanced discussions here.

Question: What does the phrase "(Hex to 1)" mean exactly?

Subject presented clean having not smoked/ingested any intoxicating substances prior to the test.

At first 100mg was weighed out and ingested in a rizla bomb. After aproximately 30-40 mins the test subject described feeling "up" and slightly elated, although there was no MDMA-like rush present. He said that his mind felt "clearer" and heart rate was up slightly.

After 45mins a further 300mg was ingested as we are trying to determine the "Abuse" potential of this drug.

After another half an hour the subject said he was experiencing a definate rush although if one were to rate the rush on a scale of 0(no effect) to 10(1990's Mitzibushi pill) then he would indicate a 3. He expressed an eagerness to try some more and against my better judgement took another 300mg in a bomb again. We had decided that this is not the right type of drug to take nasally.

The subject returned to playing the guitar and confirmed that music sounds better on this drug. At this level he said that it was a "good buzz" and the high lasted all night after he went home and listened to some music and audiobooks until 7am.

The subject reported the next day that there was no comedown from the drug.

From this experience and from reading the contents of the MDAT in advanced discussions thread I conclude that MDAT is probably not a drug of abuse as its effects are not as pronounced as Exstasy. It would probably make a good drug to take for depression as its actions on seratonin if I read it right: it makes more serotonin rather than function as a reuptake inhibitor, would sudgest. Prehaps mixing MDAT with an SSRI might make it more potent, but still it would be lower than MDMA and so potential for abuse would still be low.

The large doses needed to get a pronounced effect make it expensive, my test subject needded 600mg to get "high" whereas if taken for depression low doses of 20 - 50 mg may be suficient.

If it does become a drug of abuse then as marketting consultant I would call it "SPIRIT" just because it sounds better than Woof Woof! (A terrible name)
However from the feedback I noted from my freinds trying MDAI by snorting it I decided that it would probably not prove to be a particually successful drug of abuse. (No one liked the salty taste of the MDAI and the high was not very good apparently) I could tell that it was salty from tasting a small amount on my fingertip and there was no way this shit was going up my nose!:!

So to summerise: MDAT can give you a nice subtle high and percievable rush which enhances music and other experiences. It has no comedown however when rated compared to a good Exstasy pill on a scale of 0-10 it comes in at 3-4 and may not prove to be a good club drug. However in small doses as a treatment for depression it could prove very useful if it has not done so already.
 
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Nice to see a MDAT report, I am debating on whether I should order MDAT or MDAI on Monday, will choose one of the two. I am leaning towards MDAI because it seems to be active at lower dosages.

In regards to what you said about mixing MDAT with a SSRI, that would likely be a very very bad idea.
 
The MDAT experience seems to be noticeably more psychedelic than the MDAI one. I'd like to see more of the amino-tetralins now that,with the exception of MDAI, the amino-indanes have turned out to be useless dust.
 
I would think that mixing it with a SSRI would put you at risk for serotonin syndrome. Not a good idea to mix a SSRI with a Serotonin releasing agent that not much is known about.
 
I also highly doubt that taking MDAT for depression would be a good. I don't think any acute 5HT releasers/reuptake inhibitors are really a good idea to take if you are experiencing depression. I can see it being useful if you have a therapist or a very good, understanding friend with you during the experience, but I doubt that's the way most people will "use" this drug.
 
Nice to see a MDAT report, I am debating on whether I should order MDAT or MDAI on Monday, will choose one of the two. I am leaning towards MDAI because it seems to be active at lower dosages.

In regards to what you said about mixing MDAT with a SSRI, that would likely be a very very bad idea.

I'd go with MDAI.. i've heard it's nice.

I tried MDAT the other day.. 500mg..

All i noticed was deeper colour, a slight intoxicated feeling, slight tingles (which i didn't perceive as euphoric), a warm feeling which again.. i didn't perceive as euphoric.. conversation turned meaningful.. but i couldn't say if it was going to anyway or the drug brought it out. A feeling of your about to be high.. (in a more expected way) but the truth is i was already high.. it was just incredibly underwhelming.

I didn't go into the experience expecting any kind of rush or anything.. Got pretty much what i was expecting.. which wasn't alot xP
 
I also highly doubt that taking MDAT for depression would be a good. I don't think any acute 5HT releasers/reuptake inhibitors are really a good idea to take if you are experiencing depression. I can see it being useful if you have a therapist or a very good, understanding friend with you during the experience, but I doubt that's the way most people will "use" this drug.

I wasn't sudgesting you use them both together for depression just on its own. Depression is a vast spectrum of disorders and I felt that having a serotonin releaser at ones disposal might be usefull in some cases.

How do you expect most people will use this drug then? I have to ask.
 
I'm afraid I have to agree-the last thing you need if you're depressed is serotonergics. You'll only feel even worse on Wednesday.

In answer to your question, most people will probably take this drug and decide it's just not worth the effort.
 
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My test subject was a freind who was interested in trying the substance which wikipedia reveals has similar to MDMA effects. I did not try the white powder myself for various reasons which are explained in another thread.

Prior research included reading aforementioned wiki and the contents of the MDAT thread in advanced discussions here.

Question: What does the phrase "(Hex to 1)" mean exactly?

Subject presented clean having not smoked/ingested any intoxicating substances prior to the test.

At first 100mg was weighed out and ingested in a rizla bomb. After aproximately 30-40 mins the test subject described feeling "up" and slightly elated, although there was no MDMA-like rush present. He said that his mind felt "clearer" and heart rate was up slightly.

After 45mins a further 300mg was ingested as we are trying to determine the "Abuse" potential of this drug.

After another half an hour the subject said he was experiencing a definate rush although if one were to rate the rush on a scale of 0(no effect) to 10(1990's Mitzibushi pill) then he would indicate a 3. He expressed an eagerness to try some more and against my better judgement took another 300mg in a bomb again. We had decided that this is not the right type of drug to take nasally.

The subject returned to playing the guitar and confirmed that music sounds better on this drug. At this level he said that it was a "good buzz" and the high lasted all night after he went home and listened to some music and audiobooks until 7am.

The subject reported the next day that there was no comedown from the drug.

From this experience and from reading the contents of the MDAT in advanced discussions thread I conclude that MDAT is probably not a drug of abuse as its effects are not as pronounced as Exstasy. It would probably make a good drug to take for depression as its actions on seratonin if I read it right: it makes more serotonin rather than function as a reuptake inhibitor, would sudgest. Prehaps mixing MDAT with an SSRI might make it more potent, but still it would be lower than MDMA and so potential for abuse would still be low.

The large doses needed to get a pronounced effect make it expensive, my test subject needded 600mg to get "high" whereas if taken for depression low doses of 20 - 50 mg may be suficient.

If it does become a drug of abuse then as marketting consultant I would call it "SPIRIT" just because it sounds better than Woof Woof! (A terrible name)
However from the feedback I noted from my freinds trying MDAI by snorting it I decided that it would probably not prove to be a particually successful drug of abuse. (No one liked the salty taste of the MDAI and the high was not very good apparently) I could tell that it was salty from tasting a small amount on my fingertip and there was no way this shit was going up my nose!:!

So to summerise: MDAT can give you a nice subtle high and percievable rush which enhances music and other experiences. It has no comedown however when rated compared to a good Exstasy pill on a scale of 0-10 it comes in at 3-4 and may not prove to be a good club drug. However in small doses as a treatment for depression it could prove very useful if it has not done so already.

what did ur mdat taste like??ive just sample 150mg weighed out not eyeballed as a bomb.also had a wee dab jus to taste but no chemical taste a bit sweet i thought....now im paranoid its just brown sugar although its harder to bite with teeth.i reckon dodgy sellers/vendors should be named and shamed on these sites,after all the sites should be here for the community not the money makers!
 
how's it going to cause serotonin syndrome? the MDMA type drugs reverse SERT causing it to release 5HT instead of taking it back up. SSRIs are SERT antagonists, preventing 5HT from binding. Effectively it'll be little different than just taking the SSRI.

which is why those on SSRIs report little effect from MDMA.

a bit of a simplification, of course, but I don't see any reason to suspect it'll be any different for MDAT than MDMA + SSRI
 
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