MDA vs. MDMA

[emkee_reinvented]

Oh and I don’t find MDA at all psychedelic,

The hallucination's that it did give reminded me more of delriant's description's and 2c-B, which ime was an extremely unusual phenethylamine. Butt it was an unknown adultrant in our pills. The weird visual phenomena made me realize there must have been part MDA in it.

 

[fairnymph]

The hallucination's that it did give reminded me more of delriant's description's and 2c-B, which ime was an extremely unusual phenethylamine. Butt it was an unknown adultrant in our pills. The weird visual phenomena made me realize there must have been part MDA in it.

2CB wasn‘t fun for me either.

 

[badfish45]

2CB wasn‘t fun for me either.

I personally enjoy it quite a bit, its a nice relaxing psychedelic without any of the anxiety. Hoping to find the time to take some more soon but am trying to keep my head rather clear for now.

That being said I could do without the nausea.

 

[Mr. Krinkle]

2cb is arguably the best of them all

seek out 2cb HBr - it's so good


try boofing it - you'll skip the nausea and it'll hit you faster and it's almost twice as strong - it's the one drug that really makes a significant and positive difference between boofing and taken orally

 

[Mr. Krinkle]

MDA remains, still IMO underrated!

The original "Snowballs" early to latter 90's too, big unscored/unlogoed dome top bottom about as deep as wide maybe, smellleee! Immaculately formed, consistent, like a professional mints company

F incredible things. 200 mg's pure MDA each.

I worked a full busiest Saturday shift inside Tescos store 6:30 am to 4:30 after 3.5 genuine ones, i.e. 700 mg's MDA.

It was taxing, zero suspicion, was my "craft" after all, rushing my balls off though kaladeskopically bright lol I had to take a magnifying glass as I was Home Shopping gathering amongst public and in/around staff, loading areas etc


But feeling too good I guess, to be anxious like whatever.

I just wanted, Out of there lol! Asap.


I felt amazing after work. I took last 1.5 Snowballs and really came right back up on it, no comedown.


If I listed a dozen, or 5 truly best "exstacy" pills I took, the best straight MDA ones of a number too, are in equal running!


I'd have to leave even the best pure MDE's under tier though. V v good, but need added dimensions.


We all know MDA is.... more racey I'll say vs "speedy", no argument more hallucinogenic, tick on the longer lasting

Yes not so lovey-dovey "Hold me in your arms" full disinhibition...Empathogenic!

But not making you a cold arse, actually IMO a less foolish one, maybe? lol.

Less embarrassing anyway. It's such a mad trip vs MDMA though. I agree it can be a headfuck.

700 mg's pure MDA is about max prob for myself, while up to & over 2 grams of pure MDMA was more doable than a Theme Park honest.


One other distinctive feature of genuine MDA though, a lot moreso than MDMA is enhanced tactile sensation.

This was always very pleasant for me. I don't refer to sex, touch etc, I picture the Hulk's crazy dad literally becoming everything, it's like extra extra sensory perception of all matter and energy around.

Plus the "deffest" touch.


MDA is special.

 

[badfish45]

2cb is arguably the best of them all

seek out 2cb HBr - it's so good


try boofing it - you'll skip the nausea and it'll hit you faster and it's almost twice as strong - it's the one drug that really makes a significant and positive difference between boofing and taken orally

Never done a boof tbh, bit nervous about a syringe up my bum lmao

 

[Mr. Krinkle]

stick with the 1cc syringe and nobody will know anything

 

[someguyontheinternet]

Never done a boof tbh, bit nervous about a syringe up my bum lmao

You can always try boofing water alone to get accustomed, remember that your syringe should not have a needle and I find the optimal liquid volume is around 3-5ml. It can help to get air in the syringe as well, when pushing the plunger keep it pointed in a downward angle and use the bubble to ensure all liquid leaves the syringe

 

[AutoTripper]

Hi. I'm glad you quoted me too cos I typoed above.

Those 7 PlayStation pills in one hr, were 7

But 2, 2 30 mins later, 3 30 later.

Still 7 x 120 mg's MDA in 60 minutes. Well, is this REALLY such an unsafe substance?

Lol, still not meeting criteria for "GRAS"! (unlike say, cough...Co..fid...chabs.. you know, just for example here)


That evening though, it is odd because we'd been using them a while

Nobody would take even 4 in 1 hr without being a floor sprawling (v happy, quire confused I bet) turkey lol for a while.

Yet I handled it then like a bat. Evening chill friend straight cool though staying up playing Starfox on Gamecube.


He was weaning Methadone. One of 3 X maybe life, I took just 5 ml, actually really rate Methadone espec over Exstacy.

Much nicer vs Heroin over Exstacy IME.

So I relaxed like a baby tripping out, gauging at points lol being arm thumped by friend "Stop Gauging dude!!"

Lol.

Until dawn, felt I'd had best night sleep too zero roughness, weakness depression etc,

And it was off, to work again!

 

[unodelacosa]

Yeah makes sense, I was just wondering if anyone has felt the anxiety/worry MDA sometimes causes for me

Yeah sorta, but to be honest with you, MDMA gives me this panicky feeling at first, too. Sometimes I smoke a bowl if that's available or hit a vape or something and sorta smoke it off and then I'm fine again. You have to remember that these drugs trigger dopamine and adrenaline in addition to serotonin. That adrenal kick (from epinephrine/norepinephrine) can be somewhat anxiogenic, and MDA produces less anxiolysis than its n-methyl analog, so this stands to reason. MDA is a psychedelic and if you think about it, were it LSD, psilocin, or mescaline, you would probably equally feel self-conscious.

Also, don't forget MDA is more potent than MDMA, so be careful not to overdo it. As to the blend, I like to start with an 80 mg MDMA to 70 mg MDA capsule with another 30 mg MDMA + 20 mg MDA booster at the one hour mark. It's a serious roll at that point, so strap in. And honestly, this is for recreational use. If I'm shooting for something more therapeutic, I take 25% less than this. Stay safe out there, and kudos for the thorough harm reduction.

so from what i've gathered in this thread, if i've lost/losing the magic from MDMA then MDA would be a viable alternative

wondering whether to combine the two or to take MDA by itself

It's nice to appreciate MDA on its own. If you've "lost the magic" chances are you either have an imposter product masquerading as MDMA, you're on an interfering medication, or you're using too often. Either way, MDA and MDMA are cross-tolerant, so I'm not sure where you picked up the idea that MDA would work while MDMA doesn't. That said, perhaps your MDMA source is shit, so there's nothing wrong with giving MDA a go, I suppose.

You can always try boofing water alone to get accustomed, remember that your syringe should not have a needle and I find the optimal liquid volume is around 3-5ml. It can help to get air in the syringe as well, when pushing the plunger keep it pointed in a downward angle and use the bubble to ensure all liquid leaves the syringe

I'd also like to point out that you want to deposit the drug solution to the colon, not the rectum (obligatory: "rectum? damn near killed him! kanuck kanuck kanuck!"). The colon is the first ~1.3 inches (3.3 cm) past the anus. It's much more vascular than the rectum and will deliver the drugs faster to the blood stream. In other words, you don't need to go very deep with the oral syringe to "suitcase" a drug. Prepare your syringe and bring your phone or something to read, then lie flat on your stomach w/your pants down. With a little bit of lube, insert the oral syringe and inject the ~3 ml of solution slowly, like maybe over the course of ~30 seconds, not all at once. Now give it 5 minutes or so and you're good to go. When you stand, nothing should come out, and thus: dissolve it in a very small amount of water, like 2 or 3 ml if you can. I should add, make sure you've already taken a shit and cleaned your ass and I would strongly recommend giving yourself an enema / anal douche first. It will help to prepare you for the sensation, just to get used to it.

Also, note: there are two anal sphincters – one of them is a voluntary muscle and the other is involuntary. You have to relax and sorta push out initially. Take your time and use plenty of lube. It should not be painful at all; don't force it. See? Now you know how she feels, lol.

Not the most social route of administration, but it is quite effective with the right technique! Good luck

 

[badfish45]

You can always try boofing water alone to get accustomed, remember that your syringe should not have a needle and I find the optimal liquid volume is around 3-5ml. It can help to get air in the syringe as well, when pushing the plunger keep it pointed in a downward angle and use the bubble to ensure all liquid leaves the syringe

Thanks for the advice...Ive been on Bluelight nearly 15 years now, Ive only ever had IM ketamine and Ive never considerer IR but y'all may be convincing me

stick with the 1cc syringe and nobody will know anything

How many mgs do you like to do IR?

 

[Mr. Krinkle]

Well I did 25 with this latest batch and it was borderline too much...so I'm gonna go about 18mg next time

 

[Mr. Krinkle]

Also, don't forget MDA is more potent than MDMA, so be careful not to overdo it. As to the blend, I like to start with an 80 mg MDMA to 70 mg MDA capsule with another 30 mg MDMA + 20 mg MDA booster at the one hour mark. It's a serious roll at that point, so strap in. And honestly, this is for recreational use. If I'm shooting for something more therapeutic, I take 25% less than this. Stay safe out there, and kudos for the thorough harm reduction.

Thanks I'm gonna try that for sure - I have both

Whats your recommended dosage on MDA alone?

 

[Esperighanto]

Hi. I'm glad you quoted me too cos I typoed above.

Those 7 PlayStation pills in one hr, were 7

But 2, 2 30 mins later, 3 30 later.

Still 7 x 120 mg's MDA in 60 minutes. Well, is this REALLY such an unsafe substance?

Lol, still not meeting criteria for "GRAS"! (unlike say, cough...Co..fid...chabs.. you know, just for example here)


That evening though, it is odd because we'd been using them a while

Nobody would take even 4 in 1 hr without being a floor sprawling (v happy, quire confused I bet) turkey lol for a while.

Yet I handled it then like a bat. Evening chill friend straight cool though staying up playing Starfox on Gamecube.


He was weaning Methadone. One of 3 X maybe life, I took just 5 ml, actually really rate Methadone espec over Exstacy.

Much nicer vs Heroin over Exstacy IME.

So I relaxed like a baby tripping out, gauging at points lol being arm thumped by friend "Stop Gauging dude!!"

Lol.

Until dawn, felt I'd had best night sleep too zero roughness, weakness depression etc,

And it was off, to work again!

My boyfriend took ~700mg of MDA and blacked the fuck out bro. He was working on a painting while rolling, it was up on an easel. Once I saw that ecstasy overdose haunted ass look in his eyes he got up, started saying some nonsense, got the onion powder, and proceeded to powder specific parts of his painting "for texture". He was fine without noticeable after effects, it seems.

 

[unodelacosa]

Thanks I'm gonna try that for sure - I have both

Ain't life grand?

Whats your recommended dosage on MDA alone?

I like 1.75 mg /kg of body weight for MDA.

I weigh 175 lbs which is ~77 kg.

For MDMA I go 2 mg/kg to start usually, so that's ☞ 154 mg of MDMA if I'm taking MDMA by itself. I have been known to drop 200 mg at once though if I want nystagmus, short-term memory derps, a euphoric libertine night of hedonism, a sore jaw the next day and a lack of motivation to accompany it, lol. It really is better to be mellow at ~155 mg, but sometimes the tower of wisdom is lead to by the path of excess.

For MDA @ 1.75 mg / kg that works out to ☞ 135 mg. That's about right, but again, I will up the dose sometimes maybe as far as 175 mg. Fuckin' "Snowballs" in the 90's UK had 300 mg MDA.HCl in them. Taken without tolerance, I understand those bad boys had people full-on hallucinating on the dance floor. It's like: neurotoxicity? What's that?

My boyfriend took ~700mg of MDA and blacked the fuck out bro. He was working on a painting while rolling, it was up on an easel. Once I saw that ecstasy overdose haunted ass look in his eyes he got up, started saying some nonsense, got the onion powder, and proceeded to powder specific parts of his painting "for texture". He was fine without noticeable after effects, it seems.

Yeah I've had convos w/hallucinations on high-dose MDA in the past, somewhere around 600 mg, though not taken all at once… This was nearly 20 years ago, but yeah, onion powder texturing aside, I can empathize with your boyfriend

I prefer to make the move of following up an MDMA and/or MDA roll with 2C-B (or 2C-B-FLY, LSD or another psychedelic if 2C-B isn't around). Takes the uncomfortable come up away from the psychedelic while conferring sociability, eventually giving way to a peak that is at once visually arresting, entactogenic and euphoric.

 

[Mr. Krinkle]

@unodelacosa i knew you'd have some sort of complex formula

funny because the MDMA i have, i take 150 mg and if i take any more than that, it just knocks me out - and if take any less i just wanna re-dose


i ended up taking 100mg of the MDA and it was perfect - i redosed 3 hours later (11pm) with 100 mg again and it was perfect - i was actually still pretty high the next day

MDA is leaps and bounds better than mdma in my opinion


im totally gonna try the follow-up of mdma/mda with 2cb - the 2cb come up can be a little rough sometimes so that sounds like a great idea - thanks man

 

[unodelacosa]

the 2cb come up can be a little rough sometimes so that sounds like a great idea - thanks man

Yeah, similar to mescaline, it gives some ppl nausea, though I haven't experienced it. My thing is: Idk how ppl can stand snorting that shit, especially the HCl salt. So painful it's ridiculous. Like getting kicked in the face by a psychedelic horse… Brutal. Though they say 3-CL-PCP is even worse to insufflate. I wouldn't know, not gonna try it, lol.

MDA is leaps and bounds better than mdma in my opinion

Yeah MDA kicks ass big time. It's supposedly more neurotoxic than its n-methyl cousin, but I find the next day hangover to be much more tolerable compared to the wretched Suicide Tuesday effect MDMA leaves me with if I double down the dose…I'm glad 2C-B doesn't share this property.

Having said this, MDMA is unrivaled in terms of giving the user that universal feeling of empathy for each other and this sense of living in the ultra present here and now. MDA is a better psychedelic with superior music appreciation effects, and they're both fine euphoriants. To me, the difference is: I would rather roll MDMA at a social event, house party, or something facilitating conversation with others. But if we're gonna roll at a loud music event, I'd rather drop MDA, bust a move, and eschew conversations in favor of tuning in to the music fully. MDMA makes me so social I sometimes forget to pay more attention to the music. My mind races and conversation becomes the all consuming event in my world, lol. But that's just me anyway. Glad I could help you out with the suggestion

 

[AutoTripper]

My boyfriend took ~700mg of MDA and blacked the fuck out bro. He was working on a painting while rolling, it was up on an easel. Once I saw that ecstasy overdose haunted ass look in his eyes he got up, started saying some nonsense, got the onion powder, and proceeded to powder specific parts of his painting "for texture". He was fine without noticeable after effects, it seems.

Yes that would be an "overdose"

I'd never have myself. In ONE shot I mean.

My 7 x 120 was spaced 3 evening doses, largest last 30 minutes apart over 1hr.


All the difference, no way I'd have contemplated all 7 at once

Actually planned none so close by though evening work night, so grabbed 2

Doubled up 30 later, treble 30 more.


I used to eat 500 mg's pure MDMA crystal/powder with ease.

Never over in 1 single dose though, and I took up to 1.5 grams in spaced out session np.


And much more in good presses, one wicked unlawed outdoor party, amazing pills!

I'd taken 1 whole gr purest MDMA crystal Friday night before w 1 gr uncut Ketamine. Zero comedown. High all Saturday Sat rave wow, 7 stupid like easy over 150 mg's if not nearer 180 "Heineken Stars" one wicked Smiley face again OG 90's Dutch strength, and 5 Hearts pure about 85 mg's MDMA each.

2 more grams pure pharma ket, and 5 tabs acid Sunday afternoon before we left.


Crazy q strong stuff 2 nights but I was back home town sound happy chill cool af still.

On what.....8 x 150(+) 5 x 85 ish v good Hearts though. 1 g night before.


No recollection of harm or struggle during after but man was I tripping out of my face that entire rave lol.


But through that era us Brits remain still notorious for near zero HR concern and raving ee'ing tripping sniffing rushing to wild abandon.


This tekno track still magically capitulates the vibe energy ethos, it's a dark tad shady big London warehouse rave though vs supersafe open country parties.

 

[Pastel]

Could somebody who had both MDA and 6-APB compare their effects?

 

[AutoTripper]

@unodelacosa i knew you'd have some sort of complex formula

funny because the MDMA i have, i take 150 mg and if i take any more than that, it just knocks me out - and if take any less i just wanna re-dose


i ended up taking 100mg of the MDA and it was perfect - i redosed 3 hours later (11pm) with 100 mg again and it was perfect - i was actually still pretty high the next day

MDA is leaps and bounds better than mdma in my opinion


im totally gonna try the follow-up of mdma/mda with 2cb - the 2cb come up can be a little rough sometimes so that sounds like a great idea - thanks man

160 mg sounds bang right there too.

Like a 90's good strength clean pill

Before 100 mg's was seen as good but lol, 15 of them in a night....wow all next day best dreamy easy trip I swear.


To revert to the 200 mg OG Snowballs

First time them me, I'd dropped ONE Friday eve after good work week.

On route friends's (lol I'm adding that to Wikip...I mean, the Dictionary lol) car, to score some thai weed town Snooker club quick.


Well I was fucked quick off that 1 pill unnormal ways. Vision wobbles, like you say bit dazed/knocked out, nice still.

Guy was a crook anyway, underserved me, I'd no senses at time to verify and needed out there and home.


My kitchen, old pan scales then, 2 g under think.

Even split between 2 us, 2 friends. Man I found all the process a challenge.



Legit 200 of MDA can dream you out a bit.

Was night I took 3.5 aka 700 mg's went Tescos 7:30 to 4:30 work hecticest Saturday year too lol, buzzing tripping wicked! Somehow lol