MDA vs. MDMA

[Mr. Krinkle]

The lower the quality the worse the hangover

Bad MDMA hangovers are the worst... I've had a few where I was nauseous for a day or 2 afterwards... Those hangovers sucked

But I haven't been getting much of a hangover from any MDA or MDMA I've been getting lately

 

[emkee_reinvented]

Could somebody who had both MDA and 6-APB compare their effects?

We had pills that were unkowingly a mix MDMA/ MDA [no id bout the ratio and ammounts] so the MDA effects appeared in the aftermath when MDMA was loosing effect and MDA which has a longer come up and duration taking over.
Which was hardly miseable as you get in a whole different headsspace then with MDMA alone.

This experience was, vague as we were allready hammered by the MDMA, so its not a pure report MDA vs 6-APB. It consisted of weird OEV hallucinations. Ziggy Stardust make-up style visuals on faces, floathing hair balls and smoke that wasnt there/ people where smoking unlid cigarettes [like some descriptions of Datura experiences]. We also got in a zone of somesort of Psychedelic slowing of speaking, and forgetting conversations. Which is also with MDMA.

6-APB 100 mg floored me, spend the whole experience lying only doing basics, drink/ pee/ music. No energy whatsoever though sedating but not like in falling a sleep. No OEVs but colors brightening and surroundings getting wavey. So ime less psychedelic, less energizing and different headspace.
A unique drug on its one with resemblances.

 

[Esperighanto]

We had pills that were unkowingly a mix MDMA/ MDA [no id bout the ratio and ammounts] so the MDA effects appeared in the aftermath when MDMA was loosing effect and MDA which has a longer come up and duration taking over.
Which was hardly miseable as you get in a whole different headsspace then with MDMA alone.

This experience was, vague as we were allready hammered by the MDMA, so its not a pure report MDA vs 6-APB. It consisted of weird OEV hallucinations. Ziggy Stardust make-up style visuals on faces, floathing hair balls and smoke that wasnt there/ people where smoking unlid cigarettes [like some descriptions of Datura experiences]. We also got in a zone of somesort of Psychedelic slowing of speaking, and forgetting conversations. Which is also with MDMA.

6-APB 100 mg floored me, spend the whole experience lying only doing basics, drink/ pee/ music. No energy whatsoever though sedating but not like in falling a sleep. No OEVs but colors brightening and surroundings getting wavey. So ime less psychedelic, less energizing and different headspace.
A unique drug on its one with resemblances.

I definitely want to echo this sentiment of benzofurans being noticeably empathogens but with unique qualities, for me 6-APB is often stimmier and more visual than MDMA, but less visual than MDA whereas MDA can straight up put me to sleep on the comeup. MDMA feels like glitter, MDA like velvet, and 6-APB like auras of light that beautifully radiate around everything in the world, it makes you see the same beauty in everything but just in its own way.

It's quite peculiar, and while I'd never recommend it I was on 6-APB, 2C-B, 2F-O-PCE, THC-O and NEP when the eclipse occurred and I forgot it was coming. Imagine my surprise tripping, rolling, a little disso'd out, a little baked, and I look outside to see the sky is gray and all the crackheads are staring the same way, stationary. It was like when the woods get just a little bit too quiet, but then I went outside and realized it was a solar eclipse and not an Independence Day style UFO and I returned to my NEP debauchery.

 

[emkee_reinvented]

I definitely want to echo this sentiment of benzofurans being noticeably empathogens but with unique qualities, for me 6-APB is often stimmier and more visual than MDMA, but less visual than MDA whereas MDA can straight up put me to sleep on the comeup. MDMA feels like glitter, MDA like velvet, and 6-APB like auras of light that beautifully radiate around everything in the world, it makes you see the same beauty in everything but just in its own way.

It's quite peculiar, and while I'd never recommend it I was on 6-APB, 2C-B, 2F-O-PCE, THC-O and NEP when the eclipse occurred and I forgot it was coming. Imagine my surprise tripping, rolling, a little disso'd out, a little baked, and I look outside to see the sky is gray and all the crackheads are staring the same way, stationary. It was like when the woods get just a little bit too quiet, but then I went outside and realized it was a solar eclipse and not an Independence Day style UFO and I returned to my NEP debauchery.

Thanks universe, nice timing [lets pretend this emiticon most resembled a eclipse].

That 6-APB/ the OG benzofury freeby. 100 mg experience. was in the middle of a relocation of my family.
Done primarly solely, I was overtired but suffering insomnia. Having probably malnutrition.
Gladly i didn t use Alcohol att, that was years after. Would been disastreus.

So that should explain the lack of stimulant effects. And as I was allready on all kinda stims.
Depleted Dopamin if possible must have played part. And the older i get the less stimmy MDMA,
and other similar compounds stimulate me.

Also being on Dextro-Amphetamine before that, and after, but not during that period i took it.
I was on one of my many dr./ homephysician/ house dr. forced breaks, just supplementing rc s.

 

[Esperighanto]

Thanks universe, nice timing [lets pretend this emiticon most resembled a eclipse].

That 6-APB/ the OG benzofury freeby. 100 mg experience. was in the middle of a relocation of my family.
Done primarly solely, I was overtired but suffering insomnia. Having probably malnutrition.
Gladly i didn t use Alcohol att, that was years after. Would been disastreus.

So that should explain the lack of stimulant effects. And as I was allready on all kinda stims.
Depleted Dopamin if possible must have played part. And the older i get the less stimmy MDMA,
and other similar compounds stimulate me.

Also being on Dextro-Amphetamine before that, and after, but not during that period i took it.
I was on one of my many dr./ homephysician/ house dr. forced breaks, just supplementing rc s.

I specifically used MDA while downtapering Bupropion by reducing my dose slowly over ~9 months, I think I was taking 1/~150 mg a day in three 50mg intervals every 8 hours. To help with energy I was drinking ephedra, coca, and yerba mate tea on two week rotations to keep tolerance down. All of these could've been confounding factors as well in how stimulating or sedative I found those compounds during that time in my life.

Since then I've mixed MDMA with amphetamine, and the comparison to using MDA while already norep depleted is insane. It's like there's one side of this spectrum where it's the MDA with lotus/benzos feeling, the most "calm" an empathogen can be outside of oxytocin or maybe super low doses of 2C-B+MDMA(12 and 30mg respectively of those two have exhibited noticeable effect before). On the other end, mixing MDMA with amphetamine felt like being on Rainbow Road out of Mario Kart, like I would just spontaneously try throwing a front flip off the nearest picnic bench bc I'm cartoonishly happy.

Somehow I've never had a comedown or hangover from MDMA, 6-APB or MDA, and when I mixed MDMA with amphetamine (plus when it was NEP with 6-APB, and the other time that it was MDA and 25C-NBOMe) the combination of empathogens with amphetamine removes the amphetamine hangover I'd get if I just took it normally. Speed, especially meth leave me feeling like I got hit by a train if I took too much, but really nothing else it seems.

 

[emkee_reinvented]

Certain depletion must indeed play a role.

When i was younger and a bit self experimenting, it was obvious certain combinations influence each other.

Which resulted in. Day 1 Amphetamine, depleting your Dopamin/ Nor-Epnephrine, skip sleep.
Taking MDMA on day 2 the flooring effects seemed mangified. And moslty ended in fallin asleep.

 

[Didgital]

Something crazy to me, if I am reasonable w dosage, MDA causes zero hangover effects to me the next day.

50mg of MDMA, next day I just feel off. If I push MDMA dosage, it's a few days.

I doubt anyone will agree w me here.

If I overdo MDA +200mg in a night I feel it next day but it seems to wear off quicker than MDMA hangover for me.

Note* I currently am on peyote. Mescaline is like slower more visual mda imo. Peyote quite stimulating.

 

[Esperighanto]

Something crazy to me, if I am reasonable w dosage, MDA causes zero hangover effects to me the next day.

50mg of MDMA, next day I just feel off. If I push MDMA dosage, it's a few days.

I doubt anyone will agree w me here.

If I overdo MDA +200mg in a night I feel it next day but it seems to wear off quicker than MDMA hangover for me.

Note* I currently am on peyote. Mescaline is like slower more visual mda imo. Peyote quite stimulating.

Mescaline sure is similar to MDA imo as well, are you on specifically Lophophora williamsii? I have consumed peyote once and it was mixed williamsii, fricii and diffusa, and it was very sedative.

The furthest I've ever pushed MDXX compounds is my boyfriend and I each taking 300mg of MDA, then four tabs of maybe 50ug per person (200ug per person total). Then 300mg of MDMA per person was taken in 10 30mg lines while he took a bath and I just sat outside the tub doing lines and hanging out talking and shit. We each totaled 600mg that night per person and just felt like we were glowing for days, no hangover. Seems like some people don't get them for some reason?

 

[specialrelativity]

original ppoter, have you ever tried anything like an anti-anxiety medication like Xanax with mda?

 

[Esperighanto]

original ppoter, have you ever tried anything like an anti-anxiety medication like Xanax with mda?

I've mixed Xanax with MDA as well as the two alongside 25C-NBOMe and alongside LSD before. Shit is amazingly euphoric but it requires good redose timing.

Say you're using 2x2mg bars of alp and 125mg of MDA total. I'd personally use it as four half-bars, 75mg of MDA orally and then insufflate the rest of the MDA later on to extend things, taking a quarter bar about every 2-3 hours or so.

 

[Didgital]

are you on specifically Lophophora williamsii?

Yes. Cartel harvested illegally and smuggled over the border. Was given a sample and told theres hundreds of kilos avail if i wanted to buy. I don't want anything to do with that

but i wasn"t going to let the buttons go to waste

Was pretty surprised at how potent they were. 2 buttons maybe 3" diameter, they were still alive, but quite dessicated. I'm still feeling the effects 12.5 hrs later.

Mescaline availability is on the rise in USA. Out of work cannabis chemists trying to feed their bellies.

Back to MDA vs MDMA. I love them both. This year, I prefer MDMA but I don't like the hangover. I like MDMA atm because of it's short duration. MDA will literally floor me, but with MDMA, I'm usually quite chatty and socialable, and I usually don't come home by myself.

 

[Esperighanto]

Yes. Cartel harvested illegally and smuggled over the border. Was given a sample and told theres hundreds of kilos avail if i wanted to buy. I don't want anything to do with that

but i wasn"t going to let the buttons go to waste

Was pretty surprised at how potent they were. 2 buttons maybe 3" diameter, they were still alive, but quite dessicated. I'm still feeling the effects 12.5 hrs later.

Mescaline availability is on the rise in USA. Out of work cannabis chemists trying to feed their bellies.

Back to MDA vs MDMA. I love them both. This year, I prefer MDMA but I don't like the hangover. I like MDMA atm because of it's short duration. MDA will literally floor me, but with MDMA, I'm usually quite chatty and socialable, and I usually don't come home by myself.

Ah so you ate plants that were still alive but just dry, that's how they move usually. I cultivate them indoors in New England, personally.

I wonder when I'll notice mescaline availability increase, it's still averaging 30-50 for a good dose of already extracted mesc from my perspective.

How would you compare the empathogenic effects of peyote to MDA or MDMA?

Edit: I'd also love to talk more about the peyote being sold still alive, that's very rare. Is it worthy of a new thread perhaps?

 

[someguyontheinternet]

Yes. Cartel harvested illegally and smuggled over the border. Was given a sample and told theres hundreds of kilos avail if i wanted to buy. I don't want anything to do with that

but i wasn"t going to let the buttons go to waste

Was pretty surprised at how potent they were. 2 buttons maybe 3" diameter, they were still alive, but quite dessicated. I'm still feeling the effects 12.5 hrs later.

Mescaline availability is on the rise in USA. Out of work cannabis chemists trying to feed their bellies.

Back to MDA vs MDMA. I love them both. This year, I prefer MDMA but I don't like the hangover. I like MDMA atm because of it's short duration. MDA will literally floor me, but with MDMA, I'm usually quite chatty and socialable, and I usually don't come home by myself.

Sorry to be off topic, but what do you mean out of work cannabis chemists? Is demand for concentrates shrinking?

 

[Esperighanto]

Sorry to be off topic, but what do you mean out of work cannabis chemists? Is demand for concentrates shrinking?

Covid experienced a surge in cannabis consumption at least where I am, and since then I know many cannabis chemists who've been laid off, switched fields, etc.

Most of the market rn is who can run the most belligerently enormous grows or oil conversion operations.

 

[unodelacosa]

Covid experienced a surge in cannabis consumption at least where I am, and since then I know many cannabis chemists who've been laid off, switched fields, etc.

Most of the market rn is who can run the most belligerently enormous grows or oil conversion operations.

I dig the giant indoors growing "rooms" that simulate the sun rising and setting but with an optimal wave-length artificial "sun" that moves in an arc throughout each day. There are some wild systems out there now…

I like growing high-quality indoor buds from exceptional genetics (seeds), small batch, per my state's legal limit. Very artesian, very potent weed with unbelievable taste. Highly worth the effort, and it's a fun hobby.

 

[specialrelativity]

This whole "thread" reminds me of Austin, Texas..

 

[ButIUsedToToo]

Definitely love that incredibly euphoric feeling with MDMA enough so say I prefer it over MDA. I dig the extra psychedelic feeling of MDA though. For a while though I was taking 500-1000mg of MDA at once and it was a once a week thing. My friends looked at me like I was absolutely insane.

 

[deficiT]

Definitely love that incredibly euphoric feeling with MDMA enough so say I prefer it over MDA. I dig the extra psychedelic feeling of MDA though. For a while though I was taking 500-1000mg of MDA at once and it was a once a week thing. My friends looked at me like I was absolutely insane.

Understandably, that is an insane thing to do every weekend lol