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MDA Result?

sounds to me like these have something dodgy in them to fool the tester:

Posted on December 31, 2009, 6:20 am GMT by xtc monster
THESE ARE NOT MDMA, or ANY SORT OF MDXX, if they are theirs probaly a grain in their

these have just hit melbourne

i double dropped these guys 2 night ago

regeant tests indicated MD, though it took awhile to turn coloured, so i thought they would be alright

after double dropping felt nothing for a good 2 hours, so i thought they were either a really weak dose of MD or duds

give it another 20mins and i felt something, NOT MD for sure

i felt very alert and couldnt stop moving, when i talked i studdered alot and sounded little od, also spoke very fast

chucked on some music and all i wanted to do was have it louder and louder, i was obsessed with the sound of bass, it just kept hitting me hard the bass, no music seemed fast enough, i just kept looking for the best and fastest hardstyle music i could, and i usually dont listen to hardstyle

their were no waves like MD, but rather like cold chill that just made my body jitter

my jaw also had the worse rattles ever, just couldnt stop it from rattaling, mouth was a little dry but nothing major

everything did appear brighter, what i would call cartoonish

since ive popped alot of pills i can confidently say these have very very little MD, IMO theirs either alot of speed and some LSD in these things, or possibly piperizine since i have had pipis before and this shared similar traits

their was no real come down, i just got tiered of dancing eventually and bass stopped sounding so good, and lay awake all night with my heart racing through the roof

following day i prob had the worst scattering ever considering i only dropped 2, my vision was very bright, id say high contrast eyesight, and couldnt think straight

if your desperate these will do the trick when you go out, but if your looking for MD pills stay clear of these
doesn't sound like mdxx to me
 
^ I take all reports/comments with a grain of salt... overall, even this comment could still be interpreted as MDA. there are just as many good comments as bad.

Interestingly, my test results correspond with the user socrates but i'm curious why no-one has offered MDA as the culprit.
 
Could be a possibility. Are you able to test with the Robadope reagent..? Those cK stamped pills look very similar to the Euro pills that were once around which I suspect contained MDA, MDEA or a mix of both. It would be great if users were to invest their money in a test kit (preferably the complete kit from EZ Test). Would take away alot of the guessing that happens on PR.
 
Sorry - i'm not able to test with Robadope - it didn't come with the complete kit I purchased (a couple of years ago).

I've pretty much accepted the fact that these pills contain NO MDMA and NO MDEA as these are secondary amines and would have shown up with Simons.
 
You are still using a 2 year old test kit?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't test kits degrade and give unrealiable results after 6-12 months?

Also, on the subject of the cK's, I'd have a stab at them being dirty MDEA (strong saffrole smell and widespread reports of unusual/stronger side effects by many users hints strongly towards this) paired with quite a hefty dose of amphetamines.

But alas, without GC/MS analysis we can only guess as to what exactly these pills contain.

Anyone know how much GC/MS' cost and where to buy them? :P
 
there are a lot of pills going around currently that have a very small amount of MDxx to fool teh test kit then the active agent is pipes. Generally the longer it takes for he color change the less MDxx in the pill. Molly changes immediately, if your interested in an experiment take a small amount of molly and mix it with something inert like flour and watch how long it takes to change.

It's not a definitive test for quality or quantity of MDxx in a pill but i have noticed from my experience that the longer the color change takes to happen the weaker the pills.

But alas, without GC/MS analysis we can only guess as to what exactly these pills contain.

Anyone know how much GC/MS' cost and where to buy them? :P

an individual test is anywhere from 100-300 dollars at a lab. A machine costs 100,000+ US dollars.

you can send pills in to be tested along with a copay of around 30 dollars to ecstasydata.org
 
Sorry - i'm not able to test with Robadope - it didn't come with the complete kit I purchased (a couple of years ago).

I've pretty much accepted the fact that these pills contain NO MDMA and NO MDEA as these are secondary amines and would have shown up with Simons.
If your Simons reagent is not showing a reaction then you may be right. I have not had any of the cK pills as I heard they were similar to the Euros, which IMO were horrible. But as I said, the best way to confirm your suspicions is with the Robadope reagent.
 
Sorry, I beg to differ.

The kit may be over two years old (actually coming up to 3), but it still works. To prove this to myself, I just tested a dud two year old half pill (a Green V - god knows why I was hanging on to it) and I got the exact same result as I did two years ago (Marquis & Mandelin no reaction, Simons blue).

The Brown cK's in question showed positive results with Mandelin and Marquis but no reaction to Simons. This matches the results of another user. So all these people saying MDEA or MDMA or even speed (presumably Meth) I hate to give you the bad news...

Perhaps I have set a new record for test kit shelf life.
 
Interesting, also interesting that you aren't the only one reporting the discrepency with the testing kit. Apoligies for my scepticism earlier expothead.

I think you just might be right about (VERY!) Dirty MDA or some mystery phen we haven't come across yet.
 
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