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MDA reaction with marquis?

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sbnodoubt

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hey guys. i got some pure MDA this weekend... "sass" or whatever u wanna call it. i tested it with my marquis and got a really unique reaction that i've never seen with a pure MDxx substance.

the test immediately developed clouds of Crimson, bubbled slightly, and quickly changed to purple, then black (really dark purple).

i'm wondering if anyone else has ever tested pure MDA with their marquis test kit. i've never had that crimson reaction... with pure MDMA i usually get a flash of orange and then quick to BLACK ... with bubbling sometimes.

i tried the stuff over the weekend and it was definitely something different than the usual MDMA i get. more of a mind trip, less chatty and lovey dovey. big body high, mild visual hallucinations and stuff. interesting stuff, had a good time, but its not the friendly "i love everyone and everything" stuff that MDMA is...

can anyone else lend any input?
 
i'd actually like to hear some thoughts about this too.
Question also. Pure MDMA test you;ve always gotten a flash of orange and then quick to black?? I would assume there'd be a hint of speed...? Are all your tests for pure MDMA like that?

How bout anyone else.. ever get the flash of orange?
 
ravenouse has convinced me the orange is because of the orange tint of the test. it really isnt meth... the molly i tested was pure as god... sometimes there's waste product though... and maybe that could react a quick orange.

yeah... crimson swirls kinda with a few bubbles... then quick to purpleish... then black. good stuff whatever it was. i'm tryin to figure out if its MDE maybe or something.... the OLD marquis color chart has reactions for each MDxx substance, and the only one with a sorta redish beginning is MDEA.... hmm..
 
^^ In the Pill Testing Q&A forum if you set down the bottom of the page to see all posts in the past year you will see my 2 guides for Testing MDxx + Speed and also Differentiating MDEA from MDMA. It spells it out there with your questions on MDEA ect.

I would highly suspect speed. It always reacts first. Again if you read my guide on MDxx + speed and look at the photos you will have something to go off. If you need more photos than just the ones in the guide you can go to pillreports log in then in the Search function put ekstasis under username. You will see many reports that I've posted with pictures of the reaction to MDxx + speed showing the yellowish-orange or orangey-red of the speed reacting to Marquis.

I have tested quite a number of pills and also a few capsules and a few so called pure MDMA crystals & powders. After testing I found most were not pure MDMA. Common combos were MDMA + MDA, MDMA + aphetamine, MDMA + methamphetamine. A few pills/powders/capsules I've tested have contained only MDMA but not many. There is no yellowy orange or orange red seen immediately on contact to Marquis, only a dark purple seen around the 2sec mark sometimes with bubbling.

As a final note I would say don't bother with the colours too much from the original '97 Marquis sheet. Speed (amphetamine or methamphetamine) always seems to make the the MDxx purple reaction more reddish looking. I use the old Marquis sheet more for times, not for colours.
 
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On hearing about an orange color upon reaction with MDMA or MDA, I'd tend to go with Ekstasis's explanation, but also make sure the kit itself isn't faulty. If the OP was sure the product was relatively pure, it's probably best to replace the reagent and see if there's any change in the color produced.
 
I have found even using my old Marquis (before I replaced it) which was getting towards a browny colour (end of it's life) I could still detect MDMA+speed reactions. I would urge those to look at my pics as a reference. Once you drop the marquis reagent onto a plate you can see the colour and it won't change. Placing the scraping onto the liquid it's then that a very noticable but quick reaction to yellowey orange or orangey red will show before going purple for MDxx.

Here is a pic from a scraping I did last night. I hope you can see it yellow in the far left pic. It came up yellow in real life and on my camera LCD but on my old laptop screen there is no yellow :(

greensquirreltestresult.jpg
 
From my experience using the marquis reagent and the picture you show, I would say that this is a reaction to a pure product. The bubbling indicates a very high dose of an MDxx substance and the color in the beginning does indeed look like the natural color of the marquis reagent. The high you are describing does not sound like an MDA high. MDA tends to be even more chatty than MDMA.
 
Unless you have a high meth-low MDMA pill it's really hard to differentiate. Using a lot of sample usually helps, but not always. A very low amount of meth can still be felt and ruin your MDMA high at the end of the night keeping you awake , esp if you take 2-3 pills.

I have done about 100 tests, about half were re-tests on pills to search for meth traces. assuming you use the typical "scraping" amount (a small sized pile off a pill about 1/3 the size of your finger nail) and spread the pill shavings evenly and then drop 3 drops of the marquis...

Here are my findings

BAM - black all over the place. high MDMA / MDA
a light yellowish color from the reagent which starts to gain purple streaks and then slowly fills in black - CLEAN medium dose

light yellowish which goes to brownish black... but after 10-15 seconds brownish black all over and then finally black - meth adulterated, but small. you need to retest this. its inconclusive.

same reaction as above on your re-test, - and after its all black you wait a minute or more, watching the reagent pool but there's a very slight yelllowish or orange color ring around the pool of the marquis reagent - probably ADULTERATED

you wait a minute or until it's all, black, but in the blackness small orange streaks appear! meth adulterated definitely.

its important to notice these subtleties when testing you want to spot low-dose meth. My trick is to just wait a minute or even two minutes and watch for these red/yellow giveaway to pop up. or just keep retesting if I'm suspicious.
 
Thanks for sharing your experience testing studlysemite. I've always just washed the reagent down the drain after getting my initial results. You are sooo right about a small amount of meth ruining your night, ESPCIALY when you tend to pop 2-3 pills throughout the night. And I have also found that a slow reaction indicates a low dose of MDxx. Again, thanks for sharing.
 
I can assure you that the yellow/orange colour seen in the 1st photo is not the natural colour of the Marquis reagent. As I describe in the guide I wrote on Identifying a MDxx + Speed Combo http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=427733 I always put the Marquis reagent on the plate first then tip the scraping onto the liquid. Every time I have done these tests recently the Marquis reagent has already been sitting there on the plate and I have seen the Marquis colour not change and it is definitely not the yellow/orange you see in the photo. As soon as I put the scraping in there is a bubbling yellow-orange develop just around the scraping then in 1 or 2sec there is red then maroon as the MDMA starts reacting and eventually this goes more and more dark purple. It is funny you say that this is pure product because in fact it is quite the opposite. This test is actually from a Green Squirrel pressed pill from Melbourne Australia. It is a decent pill by today's standards in Melbourne only because we have had so many crap pills in the last year. I would estimate the the dose of MDMA being around 50-70mg (I had to take this together with 2 similar strength beige euros to get a good peak). So long story short the majority of that scraping was binding material (filler) and in my opinion there was also amphetamine in there. Not pure MDMA at all.

Every time I have tested pills/powders/capsules containing only MDMA there was just a reaction to purple and no yellow/orange. There has been a few times I have tested capsules and powder that is looks to be high purity and no filler. In those cases there was a bubbling and more violent purple reaction but still no yellow/orange. In the case of medium/average strength pressed pills that contain only MDMA (and of course filler) there is usually no bubbling. With speed however there is usually bubbling.

I would also back up my claims that all the pills I've tested to and show an yellow/orange then go purple do have the effects of a pill containing speed. I've found especially with MDMA if there is no speed there is quite often a smooth gradual sedated/mashed feeling as the peak comes on. It is usually very relaxing and if I'm out I often sit down for a bit as I loose the aggression & drive to dance for a bit. Quite often it starts with everything sounding more quiet (or as Shulgin says Rice Krispies in the ears). Once the MDMA wears off I usually feel quite tired and ready for bed but often after a good night out still very happy and peaceful. With MDMA + speed I usually feel much more alert and awake during the peak and often have drive to keep dancing. Usually the MDMA feelings come and go. Feelings switch between anxious/charged from the speed then relaxed/mashed/luved-up from the MDMA. Once the MDMA feelings from a MDMA+speed combo wears off I usually always am awake and chatty for hours after and don't feel like sleeping till midday or the afternoon. There is always much more chance on this combo that once the MDMA feelings are gone I can feel anxious/depressed/sketchy unless I am in a very good setting & mindframe.
 
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I've found especially with MDMA if there is no speed there is quite often a smooth gradual sedated/mashed feeling as the peak comes on. It is usually very relaxing and if I'm out I often sit down for a bit as I loose the aggression & drive to dance for a bit.
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