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MDA - First Experience - Poppy Pods++

Seattle_Stranger

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Without too much boring back story, I'm semi-experienced with MDMA, rolled a handful of times, used poppy pods on a weekly basis for a while, as well as a whole list of other things. I got my hands on some MDA because I heard the experience was a little different and wanted to try. Here's how it went:

Set: Slightly anxious about this, as my last roll back 9 months ago turned very sour and I nearly swore I'd never roll again. Also anxious because I'm trying a new drug. My friend (J) is feeling slightly anxious too, but I don't think as much as I am.

Setting: My house, beautiful and comfortable Friday night after a long week, good vibes, everyone in a good mood. My friend J is rolling with me, and my other friend N is hanging out with us, but not rolling (however he has in the past). Time of consumption is roughly 8:30pm as the sun is just barely going down.

0:00 (8:30pm) - My friend J and I drop one 100mg capsule each of untested MDA (so no idea of the purity).

0:05 - We light a small fire in the firepit as we wait for the =D

0:20 - Starting to feel familiar inner-warmth, stomach 'butterflies', and a very comforting feeling came over me that I can only describe as "It's ok, it's all going to be alright." Anxiety nearly completely lifts itself from me. Freaking awesome, I love it when my anxiety goes away.

0:25 - My God damn cell phone is BLOWING up. Girlfriend, then mom, then other friend, then girlfriend again, then my uncle who wanted to chat for 6 hours, ugh!!! My uncle called, who I haven't spoke to a many months (so I couldn't quite just pull the "I'm busy" card), so I start chatting with him.

~0:30 - I'm on the phone with my uncle, in the midst of the most mundane "So how's your mother?" kind of conversation where I start to feel the come up. I went into the bathroom while on the phone and HELLLOOOO look at those saucers!!! 8o I start getting really excited, and really ansy thinking "GOD DAMMIT LET ME GOOOOO!!!!!!" Everything in the room is starting to get really bright.

~0:35 - I finally get off the phone, and I venture back outside. I feel really good, but in a natural way. A very clean feeling of just pure happiness and comfort is starting to flow over me. As I sit by the fire, chatting with my friends, I'm staring up at the trees and I start to see slight movement, very reminiscent of the very beginning visual effects of 2C-E. Lights are much brighter and colorful, colors are extremely vivid, the leaves on the trees are waving around a little bit, and all sources of light have colorful Halos around them. I feel it getting stronger and stronger and the euphoria is starting to kick in.

0:40 - Really starting to notice the differences between this stuff and MDMA. Last time I rolled on molly, I remember feeling a subtle come up and then BAM!!!!! in your FACE holy CRAP RUSHHH and then from that point forward all I wanna do is hug it out with my friends. This was much more slow onsetting, and had a much different euphoric feeling, which both J and I agreed felt a lot like the euphoria from a strong dose of poppy pods, only with energy instead of sedation. Not an uncomfortable jittery energy, a very clean, chilled out, relaxed but not tired in any way feeling. Our friend K shows up, spends about 2 minutes making fun of our pupils, and then about another 2 minutes for him decide he wants to join us.

1:00 - We head down to my basement bar to smoke a few bowls and listen to music and play pool. Now were rolling pretty good. Still, no where near as intense as molly, definitely more visual though, again very similar to a low dose of 2C-E. Trance music is captivating, everything is super sharp and in focus, I feel like a million bucks, and I'm enjoying my friend's company more than ever. Oddly enough, even though I can tell I'm under the influence of a drug, something about this feeling feels very natural. I have this very intense feeling of comfort, happiness and excitement, however it only would feel induced if I was sitting there doing nothing and spacing out. If I was doing something that was genuinely fun (like joking with my friends, or messin' around or whatever) I would actually feel sober, but in a very good way. I would feel like I was sober, but super happy and excited, just like I did when I was a little kid. If I sat down and just spaced out, then I'd feel the drug completely come over me and I'd melt into a puddle of euphoria.

1:30 - My friend N, who was with us all along but wasn't rolling, finally caves in an asks for a half dose. I gave him 60mg. Just as he takes it, J, K and I decide to walk up the black to K's house to drop his dog off and pick up some comfy slippers and fleeces (best idea ever while rolling, BTW). When we arrive at his house, most likely because we just walked up a hill and had our blood good and flowing, the three of us agreed we were peaking hard. I remember at one point I was outside waiting for K and J to come down so we could leave, and I was just standing there thinking to myself "Wow, I feel sooo good." "Wow, I feel sooo good." "Wow, I feel sooo good." "Wow, I feel sooo good." over and over. As soon as they emerged and came outside, I felt a rush of happiness feeling like "Yay my friends!!". We all joked for a bit and left to go back to my place.

2:00 - We arrive back at my house, and I see N outside smoking a cigarette. When we get back to the house he ooks at me and goes "Umm, dude, you sure that was a half dose?" I tell him yes and all he says is "Dayum....". I ask him how he felt and he basically gave me a Frosted Flakes "Gerrrrrrrrrrreat!!!"

2:10 - We each grab a beer, smoke another bowl, and bust out some clove cigarettes. We sit down on my patio outside and just bond. An in depth, synergistic conversation takes place and you can just tell each one of us is on could 9. We are all enthusiastic, comfortable, happy, energetic, having a great time together. K and N, while they get along, they disagree on A LOT of things and often their arguments become aggravated and sour. However, tonight, they were chatting it up and bro'in out like best friends. I loved watching it. I was smoking a cigarette, which is really somethin' else because I can't even take a single pull of a cigarette without nearly puking, and yet here I was enjoying the shit out of one.

2:40 - We're stilling sitting here chatting it up, feeling awesome. We all start talking about the drug and how it feels, and we all agree it's VERY different from MDMA, and that the euphoria feeling very, very closely resembles that of a good dose of poppy pods, only this drug comes with a slight visual treat and energy. I personally thought it was more euphoric than my average opiate high, but still a similar feeling. We decide to head inside again.

~3:00 - ~7:00 - We simply bro it up for the rest of the night, just kickin' it, drinking beer, smoking weed, listening to music and having a ton of fun. Finally, at about 2am, we decide to start winding down and we go out to the fire again. I can feel myself starting to come down. It was a slow, easy glide back down to Earth. Aside from a feeling of "Awww, it's going away..." I can't say there was much of a 'comedown' at all.

7:00 - As we're sitting by the fire, I can feel it wearing off, still having fun and enjoying my friend's company. I can tell K and N, who dropped later than J and I were still rolling pretty good, but I was definitely coming down. After a little while by the fire, we decide it's really late, we dose the fire, and go back inside to the bar again.

7:30 - ??? - We go back inside, we turn most of the lights off and turn on the music. K lays on the floor, I sit on the couch and so does J and we all just space out to the music. From this point forward, we all just start crashing out, and eventually wander off to bed. I take 50mg 5-HTP and I fell asleep almost instantly.

~12:00 - It's 9am, and I woke up. I find myself with a headache, and extremely restless but still exhausted. I sit up in bed and get this rush of drowsiness. I lay back down and can't stop moving. Annoying!! I get up and take 1mg clonazepam, as well as 50mg 5-HTP and lay back down. That seemed to do it, because the next thing I remember is J knocking on my bedroom door yelling "You alive in there?" at about 4:30pm. I slept the whole damn day!! :(


The whole next day (or whatever was left of it) was just fine, no anxiety or depression or anything negative. Brain felt a little scattered, but that went away. I popped 50mg 5-HTP here and there throughout the day. Day after that I felt completely normal, and here I am 3 days later, still feeling just fine.

All in all, I'd say I prefer MDMA to MDA, but MDA definitely has it's place. MDMA is much more intoxicating and faster onsetting. MDA felt like much more of a slow, smooth, gradual come up, with a cleaner, more natural feeling of euphoria sort of like the poppy pods give me. Also, the 'loved up' feeling is kinda there, kinda, but not even close to MDMA. As far as the visuals, MDA might have been slightly more visual (in certain ways), but not really enough for me to prefer it to MDMA. I remember getting extremely intense visuals on MDMA at certain times. I'd say MDMA+2C-E would be the perfect drug combo, however MDA+2C-E would be awesome too!!

In my opinion, MDMA > MDA, but each drug certainly has its place. Also, considering all factors, I'd seek out a good dose of pods before I seek out MDA again for these reasons:

  • Poppy pods are far less neuro toxic than MDA or MDMA
  • The euphoria is -almost- the same when comparing MDA to a good opiate high, and with the right enhancements (such as a little 2C-E), I could see the pods+2C-E experience blowing MDA away.
  • Pods are 100% organic as opposed to MDA which is cooked up in someone's shady basement lab and cut with who knows what
  • Pods are easy to get, legal to order and possess, and inexpensive.
  • A good poppy high will last nearly a day and a half for me, which MDA and MDMA only last 6-8 hours
  • While not reccomended, poppy tea can be discreetly consumed just about anywhere without anyone knowing, like at work or school. I dare someone to roll at work.
  • I can go on a little pod binge for a weekend, and not mess myself up NEARLY as much as if I stayed high on MDA all weekend!

So there you have it, my first experience with MDA. =D

Thanks for reading!!

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And one weed induced bloodshot eye. :)

I'm curious to hear other people's comparisons for MDMA vs MDA. I have found a ton of threads about it, but none of them are straight to the point, and lots of BSing and flaming.

For those who have tried both, especially those who prefer MDA, how do you compare the two substances? What do you feel the differences are? Basically, here's my list:

  • First and foremost, MDMA is by far a much more intense experience. MDA was very, very chilled out.
  • The time it takes to onset is pretty similar, however MDMA punches you in the face when it hits, while the MDA seemed to onset slowly and smoothly.
  • On MDMA, you have that intense 'loved up' feeling. You want to touch everything and everyone, everything is beautiful and magical, etc.. On MDA, you are more just plain euphoric.
  • When I peak on MDMA, I get intense OEV, eye wiggles, and an amazing body high. The peak on MDA was more just a 'well oiled' body high feeling, and pretty much no OEV's, maybe some trails and Halos around lights.
  • I notice this with nearly all drugs, but this one was especially 'roller-coasterish' if you know what I'm saying. Up, up, up, oh am I coming down? wait no up, up, up, oh I think I'm coming down now, oh wait nope, up, up, up, etc.. MDMA was like this as well, but not as severe. There were many points mid-roll where I thought I might be sober again, and then a few minutes later bam euphoria again. Kinda annoying.
  • The after effects of MDMA and MDA are extremely different. MDMA usually lets me sleep peacefully, and I wake up with a nice afterglow and small hints of euphoria throughout the next day. I haven't rolled enough times to actually come to a conclusion, but I do think MDMA comes with a nice side helping of depression too a few days after. MDA however gave me a very restless sleep, a headache, and no afterglow. Just a little 'blah' headed feeling the next day, but no depression a few days after.


    That's about it! Basically if I had to compare it to other drugs I've had, I'd say it's the euphoria of high dose opiates, with the focus and stimulation of high dose d-amp (never had any stronger amps), and the visuals of a very low dose of 2C-I (never had any other psychs). The mindset however was more like a moderate dose of 2C-I (as in the reaction to music, ability to 'drift' through one's mind, intense CEV's).

    Hope it helps anyone curious!
 
I agree with your observations regarding MDA vs. MDMA.

Also, MDE is undeniably smackier than either of the former two, I might add. (And it wears off in about 1.5 hours.)
 
Daaaaaamn at the pupil! Awesome report, Seattle Stranger. I love a good detailed report. Thank you for this. You make me hungry for MDA and MDMA, as it's been two years since I've had it.

You say you use poppy pods on a weekly basis. How are they by themselves? I'm a poppy virgin. Is it something I should be looking into? My probation has hindered my drug use severely, so I'm open to alternatives.
 
I haven't used poppies in well over two months because I felt my tolerance was getting too high and I started experiencing mid-week withdrawal symptoms when I didn't use. I got over that though, so we're all good. Poppies will muck up a piss test because you'll test positive for morphine and other opiates, possibly false positives for heroin, etc.. If you're on probation I would stay away from the poppies.

However, personally I find poppy pods to be the most cost effective opiate due to the fact that less than $7 worth of pods will keep me high for nearly two days, especially if I rewash. Just scarff down one tall glass of vile liquid, and slip into a warm blanket of comfort and don't plan on leaving said blanket for about 24-36 hours. Also, while addiction is always a factor, I feel like one may be able to fend off a tea habit easier than a pill/powder habit.

If you enjoy opiates at all, I think a good stiff glass of poppy tea will be enjoyed thoroughly. They're easy to get, legal to order from the internet, legal to possess, inexpensive, and cost effective. I sound like a damn salesman ;)
 
Have to comment on your MDA experience and Poppy analogy. But first a word of caution. Yes, poppies are easy to find. They are unregulated for the most part yes, but they are NOT legal in the U.S. If you check title 21 of the code of federal regulations "poppy straw", which is every part of the plant except seeds, is a sch. II drug. So don't get too relaxed concerning LE. After a few kids died, (from poly drug abuse but the families blamed poppies and complained long and loud) EB pulled them off its site. A couple of containers being trucked into Canada last year were seized, (google doda) and while LE will never be able to eliminate them now, they may get more serious one day.
When I was in college the east coast of the US was awash in MDA. Safrole was unregulated and could be bought by the 55 gal. drum. A number of physics majors got really good at cranking it out. So with purity known, (pharm chem) 200-250 mg. was very "stroboscopic" as Shulgin used to say, especially when one was peaking. Wall paper would have a lot of interesting activity as well. Many called it "mello drug of america" even though they would be gritting their teeth, or the "love drug" cause if you spent the night with a young lady she would definately remember you in the morning. The roller coaster was well documented and many thought really fun. Going into a well lit store from a dark car at night was an adventure too. Burn out was a given the next day, (best to leave alcohol alone) but most people felt their neurotransmitters would reboot in 24 hrs. Since MDA is a metabolite of MDMA, there is one school of thought much of MDMA's empathy and overall activity results from it. There are a number of "old school" folks who have tried both and rank MDMA a distant second cousin thats a bit more neurotoxic. But to each his own. Be careful with all of it. You guys may think "yeah, right", but Shulgin spin on them was 3-4 times a year was the margin of safety to keep from seriously causing some down regulation of receptor sites.
 
Thanks for the response.

I do understand what you say about the poppies being 'quasi-legal', however it's very subjective. You can legally order these things from a website or buy them from a craft store. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that and one could never be prosecuted for simply being in possession of poppy pods. As soon as you put it into a grinder and start making tea out of it, now you're breaking laws. So, what it comes down to, unless you get caught in the act of making the tea or consuming it, OR if you somehow get caught with ground/crushed up pods, there's no way anyone could prove your 'intent'. Simply ordering a box of poppy pods from a website every now and again is not enough to prove someone has any 'intent to consume or manufacture'. Basically, with pod tea, the only time you're at risk is the couple of minutes it takes to ground them up, steep the tea and drink it. Once it's down, the law ain't got nothin' on ya! :)

Regardless, the law is really not interested in coming down on the end user. They'd much rather go after distributors and/or people buying VERY large quantities. Busting some drug user does absolutely nothing for them, it's not worth their time. The DEA isn't going to raid my house because I ordered a box of 25 decorative poppy pods every two weeks. However, taking down a big distributor, or a grow op, or someone ordering pods by the 1000's to extract opium and sell it, that is a big score for them and makes them looks great in the 'war on drugs'. 8)
 
Um, as the saying goes, ignorance of the law is no excuse. Yes you can still order them on the net, but no, they are not legal. Just not a law well enforced to date. Has nothing to do with your intent. Possession of a sch. II substance is what you'd be charged with, not making tea. They don't care about your intent. They'll care about you being in possession of a controlled substance if they decide to play hardball. Ask Jim Hogshire. He's the guy who wrote "Opium for the Masses". And was arrested for possession of a few bunches of pods that still had the cellophane around them. If you notice, since EB pulled sales, and Canada went on the offensive, almost all internet sites are "sold out". Up in your neck of the woods there is one lady who seems to be flying under the radar. Don't think you can say the same for Arizona.
 
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