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MDA + 2C-B - experienced - feeble minded...

tathra

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mda+2cb - experienced - feeble minded...

the main focus here is the mda+2cb experience, but i have to give background on all substances that have entered into my system prior to ingesting 2cb
this is being written as its happening, by the way.
friday night... a friend shows up at my place of work with a gram of meth. i begin dosing the meth, but i'm careful not to go overboard since i intended to sleep before saturday night.
meth use continues saturday evening, as i'm heading towards the party.
originally i had intended not to do any drugs at the party, aside from meth, but then i came across some lsd. i know i dont handle lsd well at parties, so after taking 2 hits, i prompty insufflated about 70mg of mdma. now, it has been brought to my attention that the lsd may have been bunk, but i KNOW i was feeling different than just mdma+meth would feel, so there had to be SOMETHING to it. my drained dopamine levels from meth use are my reasoning why i'm not tripping like i should be, and the turkey i had for lunch is the reason why i'm not rolling like i should be. so i add on copious amounts of ketamine into the mix whenever available, and by the end of the night i am quite trashed. sounds are echoing, i'm getting 'general phenethylamine' visuals, and feel pretty damn good. while i was never at a full blown mdma experience, the effects were still quite apparant, as i noticed my social inhibitions were totally gone.
so we leave the party. i rinse the empty vial i've got into my mouth and insufflate 15mg morphine sulfate. i also take 25mg 5htp.
i get home. promptly insufflate ~50mg mda i've got lying around the house. after much debate, i figure "what the hell, 2cb sounds fun" and insufflate about 20mg. this was at around 9:30am, sunday morning
9:30am
i find it interesting that the effects of a chemical which has to be metabolized before it is psychoactive can be felt so soon after snorting... i take a walk to my friends' house, to see if anyone is still up from their little get-together which i did not attend. unfortunatley no one was awake. time distortion begins, and i begin to dwell on how crappy it is that i came home from the party alone. sexual thoughts persist for a while. as i'm walking home, i notice the 'persian carpet' is beginning to overlay itself on the sidewalk. the body load is becomming apparant, my body feels heavy and i dont want to even walk there, since i KNOW nobody is awake anyway.... which is correct. so i turn around and head back home
9:50am
i sit and chat on irc, since nobody in the real world i care to interact with is awake. i get it in my head that i'm gonna write up a trip report for this. as i'm writing this, the text is outlined in all different colors. i throw on some music. Underworld - Spoon Deep. the auditory effects have already begun. the music still sounds wonderful, but it is definately distorted in some way. visuals are still increasing, undulations have begun, and the 'persian carpet' is beginning to manifest itself even more.
10:30am
my jaw is shaking like crazy, and again i curse the fact that i have no female companion for this trip.
10:40am
i put in my Orbital - Work cd. never has music sounded this beautiful before.
11am.
time distortion is a bitch. i keep thinking "the visuals should be way more intense by now...maybe i should go do more." so, i go do more. probably not a smart idea, but we'll see how things turn out in another hour or 2.
11:10am
i insufflate about 25mg of 2cb. i figure the differences now compared to last time is that i was in the after-effects of mdma+mda when i did the 2cb, compared to this time where i had just did a bit of mda before the 2cb, so the 2 would have their peaks within a similar timeframe. that would explain why i'm not nearly as impressed as last time...
11:30am
the entire effect of the 2cb seems to be comming in echos. every sound has massive echos that reverb together very beautifually. its becomming very hard to type now, because of the visuals. never is 2cb alone this colorful. there's just the usual 'overlay', but when combined with mdxa, the overlay becomes vibrant with colors. and hard to maintain a train of thought. anyways, the echoing visuals... the tracers are more of an echo than anything else. everything leaves off a perfect echo of itself in movement. every time i turn my eyes, images are leaving 'echos' behind.
11:40am
everything starts to get....weird. i'm trying to find a way to put things into words. its extremely easy to drift off into odd trains of thought. like my entire sense of everything becomes caught up in these thought patterns, yet once i shake them clean, i've returned to the ultra-clean near-sobriety headspace that i've had so far. i wish i could describe it better, but the words are escaping me.
noon.
you know those stories about kids on lsd jumping out of 10th story windows, thinking they could fly? i used to think that shit like that could only happen to people who couldnt handle their drugs. now i see myself in such a state where i can see how this could happen to me. well, nothing as drastic as jumping out of a window, but seeing how i could get caught up in some mental tangent that doesnt exist outside of my own mind and doing something really stupid. i decide it would be best to go somewhere where i wouldnt be alone. i grab my cd player (still playing orbital) and head out. the walk feels like it takes hours... my mind is going easily at a million miles per hour, and the time distortion effect isnt helping much. i get to my friends house and thankfully he hops out of bed long enough to let me inside. unfortunately, nobody else is awake and he just crawls right back into bed...
12pm
knowing how weak my mind is at this time, i do my best to keep myself from thinking. its way too easy to get caught up in a negative loop or something similar. i try to pet a couple of the cats, but i notice that they shy away from my touch...lay their ears down, as if its a punishment to be pet by me. i try to put more thought into why they would show such a reaction, but i'm too far gone to get into any complex thought trains right now. nobody else is awake in the house, but i feel that i'd rather be here with my friends, 'just in case', instead of at home all by myself.
1:40pm
the effects have subsized enough to where i dont have to worry, i'm safely in control of myself again. since nobody else is awake here, i decide to head back home...its fucking COLD outside. but everything is oh so beautiful.
2pm
the peak is over, theres really nothing left to report. i declare this trip over.
 
Great report, very well written, thank you for being so specific.
everything starts to get....weird. i'm trying to find a way to put things into words. its extremely easy to drift off into odd trains of thought. like my entire sense of everything becomes caught up in these thought patterns, yet once i shake them clean, i've returned to the ultra-clean near-sobriety headspace that i've had so far. i wish i could describe it better, but the words are escaping me.
I think I am understanding you on this. I have had experiences like this with LSD, but mainly with 5-meo-dipt, where I have felt soooo strange and cluttered, like my mind just wont stop, but at my will, I could instantly shut it down and feel ultra clear, clear enough to be 'normal'. But, once the odd thoughts return, it's almost as if they run rampant and chaotic...the key is that I am able to halt them.
i try to pet a couple of the cats, but i notice that they shy away from my touch...lay their ears down, as if its a punishment to be pet by me.
interesting that you say this. It never ceases to amaze me how much I am tuned into animals in this state, and how much they want to be around me! I am surprised to hear that you experienced the opposite.
Anyways, nice report...I enjoyed reading :)
 
I think I am understanding you on this. I have had experiences like this with LSD, but mainly with 5-meo-dipt, where I have felt soooo strange and cluttered, like my mind just wont stop, but at my will, I could instantly shut it down and feel ultra clear, clear enough to be 'normal'. But, once the odd thoughts return, it's almost as if they run rampant and chaotic...the key is that I am able to halt them.
LSD generally mindfucks me hardcore, so that I can't communicate well with sober people if I take high doses. On 5-MeO-DIPT, on the other hand, my experience is usually very similar to that which you describe.
 
I remember you telling me that you were going to write this report just before I cought 21 hours of sleep. Sounds like you had an amazing time and I wish I could have been the friend you were searching for during this trip. (not the female one) I can only assume the cats were at Chris's house? Last time I was over there with you on our mdma|2-cb trip, his mom was courious on how her cat that never interacted with people lay sound asleep on my lap. Was it the black and white one?
Well the report itself was amazing and I'm sure I will find out more about it during one of our aim chats. You better save us one last dose before you consume all of it.
Peace :) Moken
 
Is it just me or does the idea of snorting 45mg of 2C-B in the space of 2 hours sound radically bad to anyone else? I mean 45mg would be a very strong oral dose.
 
ahh yea, that thought had popped into my mind as thats a fucking huge dose, and with other things in ur system aswell :/
regardless, was a very interesting piece to read, cheers.

peace.
 
hhmm...I am gonna say...45mg of 2cb is pretty crap. Oral or insufflated. My 2cb experiences have been rather underwhelming unless mixed with other drugs. I'd say biggest dose of 2cb I had in one dose was 100mg oral followed by 50mg insufflated and it didn't really do much for me. I find 2cb just a very fluffy mellow trip with no fun headfuck. On the plus side, it does make ya horny and has some nice euphoria, but as a psychaedelic, I don't take it seriously. comparing 2cb to a real psych is like comparing heroin to kava. :P

Peace Out

Dirty Deed
 
think about the psychonaught in discussion here ;) After my own overwhelming experience with snorting 2CB, I feel like I can't get the point across enough of how wrong it is.
 
I guess some people just need WAY more than others. I'm sometimes that way with 2C-I, almost no amount up to 50mg seems to really cause a strong trip. Others trip balls at 15mg every time. But snorting ANY 2C at anything like that dose just sounds dangerous to me.
 
yea fo sho.
i hope to get my hands on some 2c-b soon enough, cant wait, :D
but mite just have a 15-20mg dose first up haha
 
Yes, insufflating that amount sounds very dangerous to me, as I have known people to insufflate just 5mgs and trip way harder than they did on a 20mg oral dose.

However, taking an oral dose of 2C-I sounds dangerous to me as well givin how 20mgs affected my body. Everyone is different though. For me, 2C-I is one I wouldn't take past 16mgs anymore.
 
Nice Report, especially how you got your state of mind across. I love cats, I have a big fat one named "sluzaow" and I find that it is a great experience connecting with him while high on anything (except opiates, way too itchy)
 
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