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mCPP + meOPP: nothing like 'e' for me

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So I got all excited after reading some people describing mCPP + meOPP as a combination capable of producing an mdma type effect. I'm sorry to say that for me the experience contained nothing of what i look for in a good pill. There certainly were some simmilar body effects but the complete abscence of any loved-up, euphoric feelings left me never wanting to try this combo again.

I took a combined dose of approx 60 mg mCPP and 110 mg meOPP. The high in terms of body effects included: feeling cold, as well as having hot 'flushes' around my chest and head area. I ate some lunch about 4 hrs before ingestion and for the first 1.5 hrs or so i had a bloated type feeling.
The mental effects were characterised by mental confusion, feelings of sadness and a general negative outlook. I found myself going from task to task searching for something that felt 'good' and feeling each task as being unsatisfactory. In fact i found myself wishing i was straight rather then on this substance. The whole experience was dirty and unpleasant and reminded me of the few times i tried a medium dose of DXM.
I have read that mCPP is more of a psychedelic for some and i would agree with this. There was a definite shift in my awareness of self and i felt some sad emotional feeling rise to the surface and so i sat with it for a while. Reminded me a bit of the effect acid has on me. But with acid i feel that something has been resolved afterwards but with this combo i just felt gratefull to be straight the next day! I really never want to do either of these substances again and hope that other people looking for an 'e' type substitute save their $$ and get the real thing instead.

Cheers:)
 
if you're looking for a substance thats almost like mdma- try methylone

edit: if you have the real thing obviously go for pure mdma- but if you're talking about an e-pill, methylone is almost always better (no amps- read:neurotoxic, unknown dosage, headaches from contams etc)
 
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I've had one experience with this combo as well, although my dose was much lower - 30mg of mCPP and 45 of meOPP. I agree with your assessment, though... definitely not MDMA-like. I enjoyed it but it was definitely a bit edgy. The body high was nice but at the same time there was an element of discomfort. The one thing that surprised me in a positive way was that it was definitely a bit psychedelic, affecting thought patterns (not much at this dose) and visually giving everything a shimmer and even some faint crawling of edges.

I also took 80mg of mCPP by itself, which was edgier but also more exhilarating. I enjoyed it but it made for some nervous moments as I was with non-using friends. This dose was more psychedelic than my lower-dose combination described above, although I doubt that any dose could be fully psychedelic. It made my thoughts flow very smoothly and effortlessly once I was established in the state and I enjoyed discussion greatly, though I had no push to talk like with MDMA.

Overall, I enjoyed my experiences with these piperazines, and I will surely have more over the years. But I don't feel compelled to repeat the experiments anytime too soon. The comeup was a bit difficult with my higher-dose experiment, and both times caused some annoying nausea until about two hours in. Smoking cannabis helped the nausea tremendously, moreso than it does with some drugs.

I actually felt great the next day with both experiences, and I never got a noticeable comedown or headache or anything. It was as if the state very slowly tapered off until at some point I realized I wasn't feeling it anymore. Also, I didn't notice much stimulation from my experiences. There was some sweating on the comeup, less so than with caffeine even, and once I plateaued, I actually felt very calm and content, with ordinary energy levels except that I didn't get tired all night. I even mixed a very small amount of good cocaine with the 80mg experiment, about 4 hours in, and even then I wasn't particularly stimulated, just euphoric.
 
Yeah I agree with the OP. mcPP and other piperazines must make me wish I had never taklen the substance, would much rather be sober and would get a better buzz out of drinking a few vodkas.
 
mCPP is an odd one. Seems to vary so drastically from person to person that it would be very hard to assume any set effects of the substance. I know people who don't even get the upset stomach on the come up, and others who are sick the entire way through. I am rather neutral about it... I had some good times with it, but in the end, I would rather be taking something else. I seemed to have had a bit of anxiety set off from my use of mCPP, though I blame this on me using it far too often when I was trying it out.

I think that mCPP should be used sparingly. My long-term side effects are very similar to those of MDMA abuse, although luckily now they are fading. I seem to be opposite Xorkoth here... MDMA, even after 200 experiences with it over the last 8 years, has always left me with a nice afterglow the next day and no depression to speak of. mCPP on the other hand...ick :\

I don't think mCPP is something that everyone should write off if they are interested but see negative reports. Start with 30mg and see how that makes you feel, then work your way up.

One thing that does interest me is using low doses of mCPP to potentiate other substances. One of my mates that smokes A LOT of ganja says that if he takes 30mg of mCPP and then smokes, that he feels a very,VERY tripped out stoned feeling and begins to feel as though he is on acid. Interesting none the less, careful if you decide to mix though :)
 
The one thing that surprised me in a positive way was that it was definitely a bit psychedelic, affecting thought patterns (not much at this dose) and visually giving everything a shimmer and even some faint crawling of edges.
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One thing that does interest me is using low doses of mCPP to potentiate other substances. One of my mates that smokes A LOT of ganja says that if he takes 30mg of mCPP and then smokes, that he feels a very,VERY tripped out stoned feeling and begins to feel as though he is on acid. Interesting none the less, careful if you decide to mix though
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The combonation certainly affected my thought patterns and i allso smoked a joint about 4 hours after dosing and the mj salvaged some usefullness from the experience. Baisically it added a greater sense of profoundity to my thoughts as well as lifting my mood enought to actually enjoy the experience. Definetly experienced ideas and insights that i would not normally have and i believe i have intergrated some of it into my increasingly cynical world view lol. But yeah, i dont think i'll be going back to experiment with these substances again in a hurry
 
Yeah, I'm in no hurry to go back to them, either. mCPP seems somewhat psychedelic but any real psychedelic could do the job much, much better, with less coming-up weirdness. I mean, I enjoyed myself well enough, but it wasn't anything special.
 
Do u know if mCPP is ever used in herbal ecstasy tablets? I took a couple of those and had an effect similar to a pretty large dose of DXM (for me like 600mg) but it was much speedier and gave me a pretty rough hangover. I had the robo walk too. I experienced a really intense come up that made me throw up and i also got really strong rushes of energy in my chest and head( which were not pleasant at all). I had negative thoughts most of the time and was really tripped out for a good 6 hours. Sound like mCPP to you? If so, its nothing even remotely close to MDMA in my opinion.
 
It does have an enjoyable component to it, it just is not that intense if you take it with the right dosage to not get the nausea. If you are willing to risk the nausea, it can be intense but with some rough spots.

Does anybody else get horrendously cold on mCPP? It feels like the cold is going to tear me apart.

I might try mCPP again in the future but it will be a low dose of maybe 30mg and just to have a gentle night of chilling, working on some music, watching some movies etc. I would think it could be good for potentiating certain substances but with the little info out there about the substance, much less combinations with it, I don't want to be the space monkey with the lot of the piperazines since they give me horrible aftereffects.
 
have you tried pfpp?
I have been getting into that lately. At first i didnt like it but it has grown on me
 
Anyone tried injecting any yet for a rush or for it to come on quicker. I have some here and wondering if anyone has injected it safely yet.
 
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