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mcPP and meOPP - First Time - The Complete Rundown

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Everyone seems to be polarized at opposite ends of the spectrum on these drugs. Either you love them to the point of sounding like you're advertising for a legal high online store, or you absolutely loathe them to the point of calling the drugs dirty, poisonous stimulants. I had to try them myself because A.) they're ridiculously cheap compared to MDMA, and B.) I'll try anything once if there's at least a few glowing reports about it, as long as they're remotely safe and relatively unpoisonous. ;)

I decided to take a capsule of approximately 30mg of mCPP and 50mg of meOPP to start, just to see how my body would react to it. After about an hour I started to feel like I was coming up on a pill of ecstasy. I felt light of foot, and a tad dizzy. After about an hour and a half, I felt a pretty decent euphoria that was not unlike an MDMA high. Not quite there, but if I had taken it blindly in a pill, I might have not known the difference, and have thought it was probably a small amount of MDMA mixed with MDA. I'd even venture to say that mCPP (and meOPP) is actually a better imitation of MDMA than MDA is.

At this point, I was feeling pleasant, but it was in waves, mixed with occasional feelings of lethargy and dysphoria, which I attributed to the smallish dose, so I upped the dose and took another capsule of mCPP/meOPP with the same dosage as before. After an hour, it hit pretty well. It was basically just like MDMA, but no jaw clenching, and my pupils were relatively normal. I didn't even feel nauseous at any point, except mildly during the come-up. I think reports of nausea are a bit overstated -- I think it really depends on the person. If you're not really prone to nausea you should be fine, especially if you start with a low dose and then boost up.

It's definitely more subtle than MDMA, and like I said before, the euphoria tends to come in waves -- settling down, then building back up again. If a proper dose is reached for the individual, it will feel surprisingly like MDMA, enhanced tactile sensations and all. I felt very empathetic, but not to the same degree as MDMA. There's even a mild visual component, which basically is a lot like MDA in magnitude (significant tracers and color enhancement). And, the weirdest effect of all -- for me, there was no loss of appetite. Imagine feeling like you're rolling balls, and then eating some fried fish, and enjoying it. I couldn't eat too much, but I did eat.

After about four or five hours, I decided to give insufflation a try. I went ahead and made a small dot of about 20 or 30mgs of mCPP/meOPP, and railed it up. I suggest you don't do this, as these drugs burn with fire of a thousand fucking suns. After a minute of pain, it actually kicked in pretty fast and increased the effects, mostly the visual component. I had already been coming down, so this didn't do much in the way of euphoria. My body felt pretty good, but my brain was slightly overstimulated, and I couldn't focus on anything. I felt a bit overwhelmed. Even at this point, there was no appreciable effect on blood pressure or body temperature. You may feel warm, but it's mostly an illusion.

I felt weird enough at this point to go and call it a day, and went and laid in bed for a bit. I felt better once I was curled up in the covers. I felt floored at this point, and the blankets (plus the Tempurpedic mattress) felt so good. The comedown from these drugs is relatively painless, and I was able to get to sleep pretty quickly. You don't feel depressed afterwards, in my experience. You just feel tired and worn out. Even today as I type this, the following evening, I'm experiencing absolutely no depression whatsoever. I have a headache, but I never once felt the "woe is me!" that everyone gets the day after MDMA.

So, the moral of this story: this stuff is surprisingly good. It's a fantastic alternative to MDMA that is milder on the body while still retaining a good deal of the "rolling experience". It's definitely worth giving a go. I would advise against insufflating it, although a smallish amount might be good for boosting near the beginning of the effects (not at the end). It's not a drug where you can keep taking more and more at the end of the trip to feel effects -- like MDMA, you'll just feel more side effects the longer you keep taking the drug in one contiguous session of usage. Furthermore, I think mCPP and meOPP are less friendly for prolonging the experience this way than MDMA is. You end up feeling plain weird if you take too much.

Take just enough, and believe me, you'll be shocked as to how much it feels like genuine ecstasy. Definitely one to try on a night out of partying next time. I'll be frank -- MDMA is definitely, without a doubt better, but mCPP and meOPP are a fantastic imitation.
 
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Good report mate. I'd go along and agree with you. I perhaps feel that the drug should not really be taken to compare to MDMA but to be regarded as an entirely new drug experience all of its own. I haven't taken it at a high dosage yet (80+mg) but I found that my experience with mcPP on its own was fantastic.

I urge anyone that would seek to try out these substances to PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE take a very low amount first, to test how your body reacts to them. For example, TFMPP puts me through absolute psychological and physical hell for 5-6 hours, even with a low dose. Be safe :)
 
Good report!

I'd like to make the suggestion that all of you who have recently written reports about these substances should consider submitting them to Erowid, as Erowid has no reports for them yet.
 
Great report. It sure sparked an interest here.
It would be interesting to know your experience with MDMA, though.
 
Coolio said:
What's the point of the meOPP?


meopp is a nice drug by itself. I dont know why so many people say its weak. Sure its nothing compared to mcpp but meoop is very nice in the 300mg dose range. Your report sounds very similar to my experience. These drugs are great.
 
Sprinklervibes said:
Great report. It sure sparked an interest here.
It would be interesting to know your experience with MDMA, though.

I've taken MDMA many times over the past three or four years in multiple settings. This is definitely a lot like it, although not quite on the same level. Shockingly good imitation, though, as I said. :D

Coolio said:
What's the point of the meOPP?

I've heard it goes well with mCPP from Giantsquid, though I'll probably try them individually at some point.
 
Another thing I'll mention that probably goes without saying (if you've read enough comments about this stuff) -- your mileage may vary incredibly. There's a plethora of people out there, as I said before, that get absolutely zero good effects from this drug. It leads me to believe that perhaps some people just can't tolerate it -- maybe some kind of metabolization problem? I'm not a pharmacologist so I can't say for sure (I just throw around words like "metabolization" like I know what I'm talking about :D ). I will say that if you get the chance to try it, purchase a small amount first to see if it treats you well.
 
This report just went up on Erowid...

And, they edited my report title in a very irritating way. I titled the report on Erowid as "Surprisingly Close To MDMA", and they retitled it, for whatever reason, to "Surprisingly Close To Perfection", of which mCPP is most certainly not. It's not close to perfection at all! MDMA is close to perfection! This is the same crap I used to go through submitting freelance news articles to my college newspaper. I hate censorship.
 
Jamshyd said:
Thanks! Please DO report if you get to try MeOPP on its own - this is the only Piperazine on the market that interests me, currently.

I have actually, and I found it less spectacular than mCPP, but I've only tried it in doses up to 60mgs, and apparently many people go much higher than that. I think the combination of mCPP and meOPP is pure gold, however, and worth trying as its own experience.
 
Yeah, they do occasionally edit report titles on Erowid... sometimes it's because they think it's inappropriate, but usually I think it's because they already had a report with the same name, which I would imagine is the case with yours.
 
Xorkoth said:
Yeah, they do occasionally edit report titles on Erowid... sometimes it's because they think it's inappropriate, but usually I think it's because they already had a report with the same name, which I would imagine is the case with yours.

Yeah true...

Although they could have gone with "Surprisingly Similar To MDMA"...
or "Substantially Similar To MDMA"...
or "Substantially Similar to Ecstasy"...
or even "Freaking Close To Ecstasy But Certainly Nowhere Near Perfection" since they had to thrown in perfection somewhere. Perfection? Bloody hell! That changes everything!

Oh well, there's worse things to get angry about I suppose. ;)
 
I wonder what 45mg of McPP and 15-20mg of pFPP would be like.
 
tried 50mg of meOPP and mCPP last night some dramamine striaght after food. effects came on quiet unpleasant. nausea quick vomite after half an hour of major stomach discomfort. vomit was quick and pleasant with 20 mins i was fine. I didn't think i would be sick off this stuff considering i handle high dose's of LSA, mescaline and muchrooms fine. After the vomit is was warm E type high with euphroia etc. a slight visual asect at the start. no jaw clenchin or unpleasant body load. I had a few drink before as well. just nicely chilled out and warm. Body temp feeling went up and down a bit.
will do better report another time.
had trouble sleeping which i suspect was to do with the meOPP.
next day sleep in alot a bit tired, no brain fry or E type dullness, but i had a headache which was a bit bad had to have 1g paracetamol ever couple of hours which helped.
A girl i was with on the night had 60mg mCPP felt alot more nausea and vomited a lot more. didn't have as much of a high as me. alot due to the vomiting. also she slept fine after around 4 hours i did not.
she was fine the next day no side effects or comedown.
For what research i know is that mCPP gives u the nausea. meOPP doesn't. but when used together much more better high they boost each other. need alot less when used together.
interesting piperazine. better than all those other ones i have tried. BZP etc.
 
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