MBDB dosing

[OperatesHeavyMachinery]

Seems this is appropriate for "Other drugs" since the effects of MBDB aren't close enough to MDMA to go in "Ecstasy Discussion," and it sure as hell isn't psychedelic. But feel free to dispute that.
I cannot find information anywhere (yes, I've searched the usual suspects) concerning dosing MBDB any other way than orally.
I was wondering if anyone here had any experience with any other ingestion routes, and the doses that are required from different methods?
210mg orally is quite a bit of material. Anyone tried any smaller doses through different routes with equal success?
[ 19 February 2002: Message edited by: OperatesHeavyMachinery ]

 

[OperatesHeavyMachinery]

c'mon, surely someone's tried this.

 

[ikarus]

MBDB is most definitely a psychedelic drug. So it is in the wrong forum. But what makes you "sure as hell" it isn't a psychedelic?
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mbdb/mbdb.shtml
-ikarus

 

[OperatesHeavyMachinery]

personal opinion. As I said, feel free to disagree. Seems almost closer to a benzodiazepine than a phenethylamine in effects to me. Very sedate stuff. Sort of alcohol-ey.
Not what I'd call psychedelic. But, that wasn't at all the question.
And from the link you offered (which is of course nothing new), here's a quote from Dave Nichols, inventor of MBDB:

No, absolutely not, and even less so than MDMA. MBDB has an ethyl group
attached to the side chain (see below). When you do this to an
hallucinogenic phenethylamine derivative, it completely abolishes its
hallucinogenic activity.
Completely abolishes its hallucinogenic activity with that little ethyl group, eh? And it's psychedelic? Your term "psychedelic" must be exceedingly loose.
[ 20 February 2002: Message edited by: OperatesHeavyMachinery ]

 

[OperatesHeavyMachinery]

~*~BUMP~*~
One more shot. If it belongs in the other forum, so be it. Either way, an informed response would contribute greatly to the slim amount of knowledge readily available on this topic.
(teehee.. and it's still not psychedelic)

 

[meister]

I have limited experience with Methyl-J and found that 150mg dosage works but isn't quite enough, although insuffulation provides results at 100mg. 210mg is standard dose, but 300mg can be more enjoyable than MDMA. You get quite high. I wonder if there are chronic abusers of MBDB.

 

[PhreeX]

Originally posted by OperatesHeavyMachinery:
personal opinion. As I said, feel free to disagree. Seems almost closer to a benzodiazepine than a phenethylamine in effects to me.
You think MBDB is closer in effect to BENZOS then psychedelics? Man, I think you're getting ripped off in what you buy as MBDB ..
Since it *IS* a psychedelic, well, that is the forum it's going to..
.. so moved ..