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Maybe developing opiate addiction

chaseconroe

chaseconroe

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Im thinking I have this under control but even though I tell myself I wont do opiates till a certain day of the week I find myself thinking about it none stop and one of the main reasons I do stop is because of tolerance. Once I do get to that day I find myself extremely happy I'm going to get the fix I noticed this start getting bad once I started IV'ing hydrorphone. I want to know if anyone has anything to do to prevent this from becoming a catastrophe. Or if intact I'm starting to become to far gone since the amount of days I space these out is a week max, and when I do space these out I search for other chemicals.
 
You ain't the lone ranger brother. You are asking the same questions many of us here ask/have asked/will ask.

That said, many people go through this without being aware of it. You have the advantage of awareness.

The quest to alter conciousness has been part of human nature since day 1.
 
It's good you realized it...now get out before it's too late. Sounds dramatic but it's true. Just take a break from them for now before you become too addicted and start finding excuses to use all the time (like so many of us have done).
 
You have a chemical dependency and I'm in the same boat. Just keep it the once a week thing it is now and consider getting therapy.
 
Geaux Tigers! said:
You have a chemical dependency and I'm in the same boat. Just keep it the once a week thing it is now and consider getting therapy.
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I think ur right I just did another 8 and I want to up the dosage just that first 10 sec after u empty the plunger when it feels straight orgasmic do I feel what I want I want more. I know I need to quit but even when I take breaks I search
For benzodiazepine or ANY thing. I realized after the first comment after I actually asked myself could I stop right now since I know I'm aware and at first the answer was no but I'm going to try hard tomorrow after my bday im gonna do 16mg diluaded then quit
 
Just be careful not to do too much. And try not to find yourself saying 'i'll quit tomorrow' too often.

Maybe you can quit cold turkey, though it probably won't be too pleasant. Definitely stop using pins, but maybe worth tapering off a bit by snorting/eating lesser amounts of it.

How many days a week are you using?
 
I think ur right I just did another 8 and I want to up the dosage just that first 10 sec after u empty the plunger when it feels straight orgasmic do I feel what I want I want more. I know I need to quit but even when I take breaks I search
For benzodiazepine or ANY thing. I realized after the first comment after I actually asked myself could I stop right now since I know I'm aware and at first the answer was no but I'm going to try hard tomorrow after my bday im gonna do 16mg diluaded then quit
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You sound just like me and most of us on the board. I don't think you'll end up just quitting like that.

You're going to have to buck up, realize it's a problem, and then quit. It's all in your head, man.
 
Yeah, these are definitely signs of addiction. Think about this, if you stop now - or at least take a long break if you can't bear the idea of quitting for good - it will be a lot less painful than if you wait. It's only going to get worse the longer you wait.

Addiction makes you start rationalizing using "just one last time", but know that that is a lie. It's just a way for your addicted brain to trick you into thinking it's ok to use again and you'll quit after that. But then it's one more time and one more time and so on.

The Dark Side is a great forum for help with addictions and cravings by the way.
 
Yea im going to try to taper off because I realize I don't think I can quit cold turkey I've used 4 times this week and was trying to do just 2. You think with the human body being so susceptible to adapting our body could sense an unhealthy addiction and adapt to some how make us crave less subconsciously. That'd be great huh?
 
When it comes to opiates there are 2 types of additions: Mental and Physical.

Right now you have a mental addiction. Which usually means nothing more than have strong cravings for the drug. It's at this point in time you should cease your in take and wait until the mental addiction slows or wears off.

After mental addiction comes physical addiction. Once you reach this point it's no longer a mental craving, but a chemical dependence. Too much intake of artificial opiates and your brain will eventually stop producing dopamine naturally. Once this happens, your body will require you to keep ingesting opiates to compensate for your brain not doing.

If you become physically dependent, this is when people often get opiate sickness. If your stop doing opiates, combined with the fact that your brain no longer produces dopamine naturally, then your brain and body will go into withdrawal. This is what opiate addicts refer to as being "sick."

Opiate sickness symptoms include:

Hot/cold sweats
Irregular bowel movements
Constipation
Muscle cramps and spasm
Restless legs/arms
Flu like symptoms including runny nose, body aches, and fever
Generalized body aches
Loss of appetite
Suicidal thoughts and actions


Severe symptoms include:

Seizures
Comas
Death
 
And FYI, I quit cold turkey. I was arrested during a 280mg a DAY Oxy addiction. I went to jail for 15 days and it was hell. The jail never treated my symptoms, and I was simply under observation. I suffered through terrible stomach pains, RLS, muscle spasms, and constant body pain. After 2 days the symptoms started to lessen. By the time I got out of jail I was clean and (almost) back to normal.

I suffered depression as a side effect of quitting opiates, but that's about it. And that's easily treatable.
 
nsauce said:
You ain't the lone ranger brother. You are asking the same questions many of us here ask/have asked/will ask.

That said, many people go through this without being aware of it. You have the advantage of awareness.

The quest to alter conciousness has been part of human nature since day 1.
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I love it. So true.

OP- All that's been said is solid advice. One of the gold standard rules of addiction is that if you have to ask you have a problem. As said, your awareness of the situation is huge, but it won't do you any good if you don't act on it and stop. Everything negative that you're experiencing now will only intensify if you continue, and quitting becomes exponentially more difficult as the addiction grows, which believe me, it will. We say all this because we hate to see someone who is still in the shallows heading for the deep end.
 
Also if I've done 8 mg 3 times this week via IV it should be safe to IV 16 mg right? (diluaded)
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I would think not. Doubling your dose would be a huge jump and probably very dangerous.
 
but also very pleasant right?
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Well I've never IV'd Dilaudid or any other drug for that matter but I have had plenty of tolerance issues and had to raise my dose many times. My rule of thumb was always to raise by just the amount of one normal dose for an opiate naive user. For example a normal dose of nasal oxymorphone for an opiate naive user(oxymorphone is very powerful- technically I don't think any opiate naive person should use it at all) might be about 2mg. When I was doing 8mg of oxymorphone and it wasn't working anymore, if I went to 10mg it would get me very high. And even that was with consistent daily use, if you're going to wait a day or two inbetween I wouldn't increase at all, maybe even go lower. Alot of OD's happen when people take their normal dose following a break. Even after a short break your tolerance will be alot lower, it's just that it will go up in a short period of time.
 
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