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  • BDD Moderators: Keif’ Richards

Maximum BA for powder H, baring shooting

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What can I do to get the most BA from east coast powder H without poking a hole in my vein? Sniffing it always seemed like huge waste. Does plugging have a good BA? Also, I have heard adding finely powdered caffeine to a sortable substance increases the BA, is this true? If it helps a significant amount, how would I obtain pure caffine? Any easy extraction from caffeine pills available?

If I can not find a different method with a good BA, I will probably just bite the bullet, pop a xany, and jab my arm.

Thanks for the advise tipsters
 
Ive heard of many H users that dont inject and snort it instead. Why does snorting it seem like a huge waste when compared to plugging?

With H I believe the second most effective ROA's are snorting and maybe smoking. I havent heard of too many people plugging H.
 
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I also don't see how snorting is a waste, but for a higher bioavailability I'd plug it. It will also be hit you harder (plugging is the closest ROA to IV'ing).

Enjoy.
 
What can I do to get the most BA from east coast powder H without poking a hole in my vein? Sniffing it always seemed like huge waste. Does plugging have a good BA? Also, I have heard adding finely powdered caffeine to a sortable substance increases the BA, is this true? If it helps a significant amount, how would I obtain pure caffine? Any easy extraction from caffeine pills available?

If I can not find a different method with a good BA, I will probably just bite the bullet, pop a xany, and jab my arm.

Thanks for the advise tipsters
Pure caffeine is extremely easy to obtain, just buy a bottle of caffeine pills, they're like 99% pure. Also, it doesn't increase the BA of any drug, it increases the absorption rate/speed by increasing your metabolism.
 
How much of a lower BA do you get plugging instead of shooting? How much lower than that would nasal be>? Thanks to everyone who has responded, I am trying to make a deal between best method and most cost effective
 
The 35–45% bioavailability of inhaled heroin is somewhat higher than that of another non-injecting route of heroin administration, intranasal snorting. For the intranasal route, Cone and Cone obtained recovery rates of total morphine of 27–31%, which are in the same range as those for intramuscular injection (34%.). Despite its common practice in various countries, although not in the Netherlands, a review of the literature revealed no published data on the bioavailability of subcutaneously (‘skin popping’) self-administered heroin. When compared with the intramuscular route, the relative potency of intranasally administered heroin was estimated to be approximately 50% ( Cone et al., 1996). In another study, Comer et al. (1999) used a choice-paradigm and determined the relative potency of intranasal heroin to be approximately one-quarter of that of intravenously administered heroin. To date, no data are available on the relative potency of inhaled heroin.

Taken from Heroin self-administration by means of ‘chasing the dragon’: pharmacodynamics and bioavailability of inhaled heroin via the Drug-Forum BA page, said SWIM to my granny's sister's aunt's cockroach's cousin Colin.

Smoking always felt stronger than snorting to me. Plugged is almost always second down from IV on the BA scale but have a feeling it may not be with heroin. May be wrong though and have never plugged it (or eaten it - terrible BA orally) myself so couldn't say. Smoking would be my second choice if I couldn't IV. Think US powder needs caffeine added to make it smokable - UK heroin is freebase not HCl like you US folks get so not positive on that. Caffeine is widely available at 99.9% purity online - caffeine pills are not such a good idea.
 
I'd imagine plugging would be the next best thing also.
Then snorting, then smoking (from experience). Smoking comes on quicker than both, pretty much instantaneously, snorting takes about 5-10mins or so. I've read / heard that plugging doesn't take too long to come on either.

As far as the Caffeine thing you mentioned, I was under the impression that you only needed to add it to yer gear if you were going to smoke it (that's what's added over here in the UK) due to melting / boiling / vaporising points.
 
The BA figures from the study above would suggest almost the opposite really, Monsta. It's up to almost twice as effective smoked as snorted - 31-45% compared to 27-31% is a significant difference. If your chasing technique is top then you are getting a lot more of the Goodies into yourself compared to sniffing. Problem is that chasing is fiddly (hence the wide BA range, I presume) and not everyone can be arsed with it when it can be snorted so easily for a similar effect. Snorters also tend to dose higher (cos you can't easily smoke a decent dose as quick as you can snort it) in my experience so probably actually get higher. Chasing is more fun and you can make pictures too if you chase that blessed beetle with panache. Knew one fella who always signed his name on his foils but most seem to go for the squarish spirals.

Of the few reports I've seen of plugged heroin, I'd say at least 3/4 said it wasn't very effective at all and the rest loved it. Most opiates are excellent plugged but was always under the impression that heroin was an exception. Will just have to take up heroin again to find out, I suppose".
 
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