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1badrabbit

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I realize most people say plugging is the most effective way of administering E, and while I have nothing against it I don't have any desire to try this method. So I was wondering what is the next most effective method of administration? I was thinking letting it dissolve under my tongue would be the next best. Also is there anything else I can do to increase absorbtion like maybe drinking some baking soda and water to make a more alkaline enviornment in my stomach.
My final question is if I took a pill and the comeup was very strong and the peak was not quite strong enough and didn't last quite long enough. Would I be better off to take 2 of the same pills at once the next time or take 1.5 pills and take the other half a little while after I start feeling the first 1.5 pills?

So in recap
1.Most effiecent way of administration aside from plugging?
2.Ways to aid absorbtion and anything else preload to increase strength of roll?
3.How to get strongest longest peak 2 pills at once or 1.5 pills and then another half pill later?

Thanks in advance for your help it is greatly appreciated.
 
Feel free to correct me if I am wrong?

1.Most effiecent way of administration aside from plugging?

I think most people crush the pill up and snort it. It is supposed to make you roll really hard but doesn't last as long? I have never tried it that way.


2.Ways to aid absorbtion and anything else preload to increase strength of roll?

We used to take tums and rolaids(no pun intended) but that seemed to work only some of the time, maybe just a placebo effect?

We would always preload with 5HTP but I am not really sure that worked?

The ONLY thing that would ALWAYS work is snorting a tiny amount of K on the come down. Not even a half a bump would fuck us up for 2-3 extra hours.


3.How to get strongest longest peak 2 pills at once or 1.5 pills and then another half pill later?

We would always take 1 pill then a half a pill an hour later and another half and hour after that. We would usually roll for 4-5 hrs then a little bump of K and roll 2-3 hrs more. 6-7 hrs usually depending on the strengh of the pill and only rolling every couple of months.



This is what worked for us. I am sure many different ways work for many different people! But good luck with it!
 
There is a lot of debate. I personally ascribe to a couple of theories when it comes to maximizing absorbtion/minimizing metabolism.

Taking your MDMA with a tablespoon or two of Sodium Bicarbonate in water. I don't think alters the rate of absorbption, but its slows the rate of urinary excretion.

Taking the pill(s) all at one. MDMA tends to sohw non-linear kinetics, that is to say, the plasma peak of MDMA increase non-proportionally to the increase in dose.

And I don't really think there is much else. Perhaps grapefruit juice, perhaps avoiding antacid tablets.
 
If you were really crazy, you could take ritonavir, but then you're more likely to die.
 
^ Because of its CYP inhibiting effects? I think you'd be better off with cimetidine, its easier to find and isn't as likely to cause side effects.
 
1.Most effiecent way of administration aside from plugging?

I think after plugging your best of parachuting. It may not be the 2nd most effiecent administration route but it has to be the most pleasant.

2.Ways to aid absorbtion and anything else preload to increase strength of roll?

If you do a search on pricetam & MDMA you will find a heap of info. Some people have reported great results from the combo, others haven't noticed any effect.

3.How to get strongest longest peak 2 pills at once or 1.5 pills and then another half pill later?

Personally if I want quite a strong roll from 2 pills but don't want to be fully munted I will dump 1/2 a pill wait until I feel that coming on (30 - 50mins) and then dump a full pill. I have always had really good results with this method. After the peak I take the last 1/2.
 
BilZ0r said:
There is a lot of debate. I personally ascribe to a couple of theories when it comes to maximizing absorbtion/minimizing metabolism.

Taking your MDMA with a tablespoon or two of Sodium Bicarbonate in water. I don't think alters the rate of absorbption, but its slows the rate of urinary excretion.

Taking the pill(s) all at one. MDMA tends to sohw non-linear kinetics, that is to say, the plasma peak of MDMA increase non-proportionally to the increase in dose.

And I don't really think there is much else. Perhaps grapefruit juice, perhaps avoiding antacid tablets.
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So your saying that taking 2 pills at once will produce a longer more intense peak rather then spacing the pills out?
So would sublingual be the next best to plugging in your opinion then?
Sorry but I am a little unclear you think the baking soda is a good idea then or no?
Thanks for the reply
 
VelocideX said:
If you were really crazy, you could take ritonavir, but then you're more likely to die.
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I will pass on the death part of the equation lol. I just have some tabs that are very clean but not as strong as I would like. So I am trying to find out how I can get a nice intense and long peak experience without making a horrible comedown or other problems for myself.
 
The ritonavir thing was a joke. People have died from combining it with MDMA, and usually not intentionally. In any event, you're unlikely to be able to get your hands on it. It's an anti-HIV drug, and has its own side effects.
 
VelocideX said:
The ritonavir thing was a joke. People have died from combining it with MDMA, and usually not intentionally. In any event, you're unlikely to be able to get your hands on it. It's an anti-HIV drug, and has its own side effects.
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Oh I figured it was a joke ;) lol. And actually my friends mother has HIV so I could quite easily obtain some haha. Anyway so back to the original question what is more effective at making a more intense and longer peak 2 pills at once or 1 pill and 1 pill an hour later? I haven't really heard any concrete answers thus far.
 
Whenever I used to handle molly I would throw a dose in a drink and it felt like the roll was a lot more intense whenever I did that, but that's probably just placebo.

Btw, never put MDMA in a alcohol drink... I don't know what causes this, but my friends once put some into some rum and it made it totally bunk.
 
1badrabbit said:
So your saying that taking 2 pills at once will produce a longer more intense peak rather then spacing the pills out?
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Yes.

So would sublingual be the next best to plugging in your opinion then?
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I personally wouldn't fuck around with anything apart from oral, and if I was going to, I would get myself a needle, fuck rectal or sublingual.

Sorry but I am a little unclear you think the baking soda is a good idea then or no?
Thanks for the reply
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I would say yes. For instance, I've got a study here that showed that the halflife of amphetamine was increased from around 7 hours to around 20 hours in subjects taking 2gm of of sodium bicarbonate every 4 hours.
 
Ok so odds are if one pill wasn't too bad that 2 aren't going to be too terribly intense. As for the baking soda what would you recommend dosage wise and when would you take the baking soda? Thanks for all the help this has been a very informative discussion for me.

Also if someone was feeling the experience was too intense what would taking a benzo like valium do? Any interactions between the two or would it help calm the person down?
 
I reckon 1-2 tablespoons in a cup of water half an hour before and half an hour afterwards.

I've never mixed benzos with MDMA, so I don't really know.
 
Sorry to keep asking questions, but is the active chemical in an E pill evenly distributed throughout like a regular pill so if you cut it in half you would get exactly half the amount? Also if two at once increases the intensity and duration of the peak is taking 1 and 1 later just a waste of pills essentially?
 
1badrabbit said:
Ok so odds are if one pill wasn't too bad that 2 aren't going to be too terribly intense.
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Not necessarily. I had some average pills a while ago which did bugger all for me, so I dumped 2 the next time and they totally put me on my arse, I could be barely move.

It was awesome but extremely intense!

MDMA dosage isn't linear.
 
Originally posted by 1badrabbit
Sorry to keep asking questions, but is the active chemical in an E pill evenly distributed throughout like a regular pill so if you cut it in half you would get exactly half the amount? Also if two at once increases the intensity and duration of the peak is taking 1 and 1 later just a waste of pills essentially?
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FYI the active chemical or what is E should be MDMA. It can also be similar substance such as MDA & MDEA.

There is no guarantee that MDxx is evenly spread throughout the pill, so it is possible (though unlikely) for 1/2 to contain all active substances and the other half to be all binder. The same can apply for pills in the same batch. The actual dose of MDMA in each pill can vary.

However it is unlikely that there will be a major difference in doses between halves of the same pill, as people take halves all the time with success.
 
So if MDMA dosage isn't linear would you mind explaining exactly how the dosage works in relation to the amount taken to the effects you feel. Thanks for the help thus far I have learned a shitload.
 
I mix Xanax with E every time I roll. It's a safe combination, for the most part and it has no bad side effects. It works very well with people who have anxiety and panic attacks.
 
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