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Materialistic view of life by today's people.

NomNomNom said:
When your entire life is nothing but work work work to up someone else's bank, what else is there to do in your 32 or less fully free hours per week but go out and buy shit to make yourself feel better?

Expanding your knowledge base and getting different perspectives is not a benefit to you when you need to be in a cubicle farm for 50 hours per week taking care of wealthy people's company problems.
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The way we see life is very similar.
I agree with you entirely when you state that expanding your knowledge and gaining different perspectives isn't a benefit because of work related obligations.
It's already been predetermined for us that we will submit ourselves to work and value external materialistic possessions as rewards for the majority of our lives.
However, if you seem unhappy with the current state of life, personally would you make drastic changes and turn it all around?
 
iPKNHRD said:
...However, if you seem unhappy with the current state of life, personally would you make drastic changes and turn it all around?
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Well, this is excatly the kind of stuff i've been dwelling on for a bit. I'm actually tremendously happy now, paid into the system for 14 years and now the state is doling out part of that cash to me on a weekly basis so i have income but nowhere to report to for 8am sharp! Alas, all things must pass =D

It's not something that can be fixed overnight, if you're unfulfilled in life, that lack of fulfillment is something you've developed over your whole life. In other words your "cup" is full of all this shit that really doesn't do it for you, but kinda gets you buy (sic). You have to first work on emptying the cup piece by piece then refilling it with things that do it for you.

Everyone i know thinks i'm insane because i'm like "nah...i HAVEN'T started looking for a job even though i'm 5 months unemployed because well, i want to find something that i WANT to do, either something fulfilling, or something that doesn't so closely resemble hell" It's kind of nuts that people don't even really get what i'm saying, they think i must be either insane or that i sound kind of entitled looking for a "job" that's "fulfilling".

I mean, in 5 months i've realized that they're partially right...i'm not going to go on CareerBuilder and find the perfect dream job for me and jump into it and be beaming with excitement at the chance to do it. What i AM going to do is start making some money again, keep my eyes and ears open for new opportunities and ways of making money, and NOT just let this idea slip away with the same kind of quiet resignation that seems to be on every 45 year old guy's face i see.

In the short term, i just need to be happy with less money, realize that i WILL get to a place one day where i don't feel entirely beholden to some person/entity, keep thinking of new and creative ways to keep my spirits up, and realize that when i DO plunge back into the workforce it's not a death sentence, it's a stopover to my future destination.

I feel like I've been alive a long time but really, chances are i'll live at least another 50, possibly even another 60, or even 70 years. I shouldn't be depressed and beat myself up because i don't have everything perfectly the way i want it. If i could have that at my age life wouldn't be nearly as badass =D
 
I see where you're coming from and it seems that your in a position that offers many opportunities which sounds great :).
One thing that you've made clear to me is that the never ending quest for money is still in place and that you can in fact embrace the chaos of life as it brings a form of satisfaction.

What I had meant by making drastic changes to life was to deprive it of its never ending quest for money in witch would in my case, provide new incentives and simplicity.
However I can understand that when you have it all too perfect, life can become a bore however to some, it can become complete and utter satisfactory.
 
iPKNHRD said:
I see where you're coming from and it seems that your in a position that offers many opportunities which sounds great :).
One thing that you've made clear to me is that the never ending quest for money is still in place and that you can in fact embrace the chaos of life as it brings a form of satisfaction.

What I had meant by making drastic changes to life was to deprive it of its never ending quest for money in witch would in my case, provide new incentives and simplicity.
However I can understand that when you have it all too perfect, life can become a bore however to some, it can become complete and utter satisfactory.
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Well if i could snap my fingers and own a dwelling of some sort and never have to pay taxes on it, and not be required to earn an income to support myself i think i might. But really your back is against the wall, you can't live in a tent on someone else's land for the rest of your days (i've contemplated it lol) so what's a guy to do, right?
 
NomNomNom said:
Well if i could snap my fingers and own a dwelling of some sort and never have to pay taxes on it, and not be required to earn an income to support myself i think i might. But really your back is against the wall, you can't live in a tent on someone else's land for the rest of your days (i've contemplated it lol) so what's a guy to do, right?
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Well the way you put it is very much so the case, however if you really think about it and put your mind to it, it is in fact possible, that is not to start a life from this very moment without the need for money but to eventually build towards it.

Most people subconsciously think that without money, you simply die and it's almost like we've been conditioned to think that there is no life without it. I'm currently researching solutions to making my house solar and wind turbine energy sufficient witch would rid life of electricity bills. Although building towards such a life is possible, it is in fact complex due to the fact that 99.9% of the general public do not or have any intention to live this way.

All I'm trying to say is that there is an alternative to the current way of life should you voluntarily choose to see it or even furthermore to pursue it. :)
 
Yeah i've seen those programs with people who live in a desert that looks like Tatooine with all kinds of crafty homebrew workarounds to traditional creature comforts. I think that's fucking rad that you're looking into/starting to pursue that.

Part of me is like OMGOMGOMG i wanna go to Arizona and do that, but a much larger part recognizes that we evolved from barter for a reason, it's a bitch to either make everything you need or make enough stuff to trade for everything you need.

Money IS extremely convenient in that way, it's so damned liquid. Division of labor and a uniform liquid asset allows one to do what they can excel at and do best in order to purchase a nearly infinite range of goods and services that wouldn't likely be available to you otherwise.

Doing without 99% of everything you've known in life is a scary prospect, but you can't know how awesome that level of freedom is until you experience it first hand. Bah, fucking freedom. America: The land of the free! Er, unless you don't pay your property taxes for a year or two, then we'll jail you or kill you if you persist in stating that you "own" your land. But you're still free.
 
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