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Mass Shooting and Gun Control Megathread

arrall said:
And most mass shootings are perpetrated with rifles.
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Well, do you mean real mass shootings, or anything that Everytown/Giffords counts? If we're talking the inflated statistics, handguns are still the primary firearm used, due to concealability and compactness.
arrall said:
We’re talking about school shootings.
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I was not aware that was the subject, because the poster I originally quoted was discussing firearms as the primary cause of premature death currently among those 1-19 years of age.
arrall said:
Then why is this issue only happening in the USA?
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If we're talking about youth on youth violence then it is not a phenomena isolated to the U.S. So of course if we're going back to school shooting incidents which make up a very very small fraction of firearm deaths, then yes the U.S. is mostly an outlier.
arrall said:
What is wrong with checking for a history of severe untreated mental illness and violent criminal offences before selling someone a firearm?
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If it's untreated, how would there be any documentation? And I personally (and likely most folks) support background checks prior to purchases, I almost always buy new firearms myself and go through it every time. The problem is anyone in the federal government who suggests this goes ten steps further, and will not settle for simple background checks; they want bans, flawed red flag laws, etc. to be lumped into said legislation. If anything, we have the radical left to blame when it comes to the lack of 'common sense' firearm laws at the federal level. If they would settle for reasonable, short, and to the point legislation, there would be far more consensus. Recall how the only federal law passed since 1994 was far more centrist and mild in its approach, targeting issues that a majority of voters could get behind.

Everyone knows this, but we live in beyond polarized times where people in office can't make it as slightly left or right of centrist. Ergo, deadlock. Look at the way that senator from Arizona (Sinema?) has been torn to shreds by her own caucus... I get the feeling many Democrat representatives want the violence to occur so they can usher in their own era of oppression. I'd like them to prove me wrong. No, I'd LOVE them to prove me wrong. As it stands it comes across as self-serving, the way they won't address the actual wishes and needs of their constituents. It comes across as being in the furtherance of creating an increasingly fascist nation state that uses and abuses its populace.
 

Mussolini on the Corporate State

A Google(tm) search on January 12, 2005 turned up some 5,000 hits on the following quote: “Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power.” — Benito Mussolini It is generally attributed to an article written by Mussolini in the 1932...
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someguyontheinternet said:

Mussolini on the Corporate State

A Google(tm) search on January 12, 2005 turned up some 5,000 hits on the following quote: “Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power.” — Benito Mussolini It is generally attributed to an article written by Mussolini in the 1932...
politicalresearch.org politicalresearch.org
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It is unlikely that Mussolini ever made this statement because it contradicts most of the other writing he did on the subject of corporatism and corporations. When Mussolini wrote about corporatism, he was not writing about modern commercial corporations. He was writing about a form of vertical syndicalist corporatism based on early guilds.
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Wow you really got me. Nice article. :rofl:
 
“The gun lobby” is a false ethereal scapegoat used by the radical leftists currently trying to eliminate all firearm ownership rights. Look at funding for the NRA then look at funding for Giffords, Everytown, etc. There’s far more financial backing behind the latter. The NRA barely has enough money to fight on every front right now, and their contributions to politicians are minuscule in comparison to those contributing to politicians in furtherance of firearm prohibition.

Firearm manufacturers themselves hardly make as much as most industries. Remington went belly up recently after over 200 years in business. Most firearms sell for below msrp. Most ammunition manufacturers have had severe setbacks in recent months. It is not the industry to be in if you’re a greedy corporate shill.

Have you ever wondered if maybe a large segment of American citizens perhaps want to keep firearms legal? That maybe despite lack of funding and assaults on every front, the “gun lobby” is winning due to widespread support of their mission?

Don’t just eat up every damned thing you read from the Wallstreet Journal, etc. I’ve seen so many calls for violence and murder in the comment sections of leftist media articles, it is sickening and disturbing.
 
Democrat politicians have repeatedly admitted, usual by slip, that their goal is confiscation like Australia. J6 proved that unarmed Grandmas is enough to overthrow the government, but what about people's right to defend their fucking lives and property when the government fucks up and gangs take over...
 
Does anybody even know the enforced laws on lunatics getting stuff? Seems like they don't enforce the laws they pass then ask for more laws. Obviously if we aren't going to lock up our lunatics anymore they shouldn't have metal cocks.
 
Doctor Steve Brule said:
Does anybody even know the enforced laws on lunatics getting stuff? Seems like they don't enforce the laws they pass then ask for more laws. Obviously if we aren't going to lock up our lunatics anymore they shouldn't have metal cocks.
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They probably used illegal guns is my guess. Look at the Tampa shooting, 2 dead 18 shot, that sounds like someone just spraying a full auto glock
 
Electrum1 said:
They probably used illegal guns is my guess. Look at the Tampa shooting, 2 dead 18 shot, that sounds like someone just spraying a full auto glock
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They say it's harder than you think to get a permit but I think they just add steps and fees and don't do much about seriously mentally ill people.
 
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