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Mass Shooting and Gun Control Megathread

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personally, i think i should be able to go kill a duck with my shottie (above board) but i also think we need to enforce many gun regulations which are often ignored, add some common sense (getting guns out of the hands of obviously criminally insane people and closing gun show loopholes and shit), although i'm not keen on the particulars which is why i stay out of this debate for the most part.

i will say that my state has passed some stupid laws (which ban specific scary+black ar15s but leave alone guns that have analogous function like mini-14s, for example)...

i think the problem is we have anti- gun lobbyists and lawmakers that have NO CLUE what a gun really is and how it operates, don't know shit about gun jargon, and don't care to get it right... and then on the other side we have the nra which loves to manufacture fear to help their buddies sell cartridges en masse, and have no qualms lying and generally being shitty.

we need people on BOTH SIDES of the debate to be, like, oh i dunno... sensible and open to comprimise?
 
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The study found that in areas with higher Black populations, mass shootings are likelier to occur compared to communities with higher White populations. There are also more Black people injured and killed when mass shootings take place, the findings say.

 
I can't, nay dont want to read 80 pages.

In a double blind study I was helping with .......people who play first person shooters are a bit overconfident in real word abilities but seemed no more prone to snapping than anyone else. . Not that exciting an experiment. (definitely didnt get my ps4 that way)

But my prevailing thought remains that mass shootings are a symptom of a much larger problem. (a bit of gun control would help but I don't think it is even needed).

Why would a person want to go on a mass shooting? why would a country of people begin such a thing?
 
No matter how many gun control laws are passed, people will always be able to get guns in America. That's just a fact. "Gun control" is like the war on drugs: if people want something bad enough they WILL find a way.

I don't own a gun because I know I have a psychotic temper...and if someone pissed me off enough, I wouldn't hesitate to blow them away. And since I DON'T want to spend years in jail for an impulsive decision, it's better that I don't have access to firearms.
 
I can't, nay dont want to read 80 pages.

In a double blind study I was helping with .......people who play first person shooters are a bit overconfident in real word abilities but seemed no more prone to snapping than anyone else. . Not that exciting an experiment. (definitely didnt get my ps4 that way)

But my prevailing thought remains that mass shootings are a symptom of a much larger problem. (a bit of gun control would help but I don't think it is even needed).

Why would a person want to go on a mass shooting? why would a country of people begin such a thing?

The fbi have been caught actively encouraging kids to do mass shootings.

You also have many people who have been radicalised by whatever news channel they've been watching.
 
can you tell me more about this?

thanks.

alasdair




If you just google FBI grooming shooters or teenagers more will come up. They have been doing this kind of stuff for years. It benefits them cos then they can claim they caught a big terrorist, gain positive news/adjulation and increase national security.
 



If you just google FBI grooming shooters or teenagers more will come up. They have been doing this kind of stuff for years. It benefits them cos then they can claim they caught a big terrorist, gain positive news/adjulation and increase national security.
I wasn't familiar with the shooting stuff but I'm aware of more than one case where the alphabets entrap radically-minded indivuals or radical-adjacent people into (t)errorist plots.


After trolling a Newburgh, New York, mosque for months, the FBI informant met James Cromitie, a man quick to engage in hateful rhetoric. The informant encouraged Cromitie to turn his talk into action, even offering him $250,000, but Cromitie showed hesitation for months. It was only after he lost his job at Walmart that Cromitie came back to the informant, who designed the plot and directed Cromitie to recruit three other men. As a Second Circuit judge put it: “The government came up with a crime, provided the means, and removed all relevant obstacles.” Cromitie and the other men are serving 25 years in prison.

As the ACLU has reported, and a new Human Rights Watch report shows, the case isn’t isolated. The FBI has repeatedly used such aggressive tactics, providing gullible or vulnerable subjects financial support and other incentives for fake plots they may never have initiated on their own.



Osmakac was the target of an elaborately orchestrated FBI sting that involved a paid informant, as well as FBI agents and support staff working on the setup for more than three months. The FBI provided all of the weapons seen in Osmakac’s martyrdom video. The bureau also gave Osmakac the car bomb he allegedly planned to detonate, and even money for a taxi so he could get to where the FBI needed him to go. Osmakac was a deeply disturbed young man, according to several of the psychiatrists and psychologists who examined him before trial. He became a “terrorist” only after the FBI provided the means, opportunity and final prodding necessary to make him one.

There was a decent documentary on one of the streaming services a few years ago that documented something like this happening but I can't, for the life of me, find it anywhere (curious).

Ahh - here it is.



Better This World follows the radicalization of these boyhood friends from Midland, Texas, under the tutelage of revolutionary activist Brandon Darby. The results: eight homemade bombs, multiple domestic terrorism charges and a high-stakes entrapment defense hinging on the actions of a controversial FBI informant. Better This World goes to the heart of the war on terror and its impact on civil liberties and political dissent in post-9/11 America. Winner, 2012 Writers Guild Award for Best Documentary. Winner, Gotham Award for Best Documentary. Winner, International Documentary Association Creative Recognition Award for Use of Music. A co-production of ITVS, with funding provided by the Corporation for Public Broadcasting. Produced in association with American Documentary | POV.
 
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I wasn't familiar with the shooting stuff but I'm aware of more than one case where the alphabets entrap radically-minded indivuals or radical-adjacent people into (t)errorist plots.








There was a decent documentary on one of the streaming services a few years ago that documented something like this happening but I can't, for the life of me, find it anywhere (curious).

Ahh - here it is.

You seethose whitmore kidnap plot people finally got off? I don’t think the judges or juror’s conscience would let them go to prison much longer just so the fbi could pad it’s stats and the state could make a bit more propaganda. Glowies Suck
 
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