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Fair enough; I still think governments (& the philanthropic, billionaires that fund them) will paristicise & propagandise any democratic movement, to thwart it toward their agenda; over being held accountable.
 
Dropperneck said:
I still believe occupy wallstreet is what caused them to kick off the current cultural revolution we are living through.
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In Spain in fact it happened like that
first it was the 15-M movement (on which I personally participated for years) then, when the movement started deflating then Podemos, a "surprisive" political party was suddenly created to gather all the frustrated and enraged population that parcipated in 15-M (sort of occupy wallstreet, they said ocupa la plaza/occupy the squares) but felt that almost nothing was going on, so a lot of people joined or voted for that party, so that potential political and social uprising/unrest was almost completely subdued and repressed by "non-violent means" of persuassion and a fake "leftist" agenda (although riot police had already been brought into the squares to violently remove them).

Nowadays almost ANYONE trust Podemos and the likes and they've created some kind of "trumpist" "right-wing" or "alt-right" party that now does the same theatre role, to claim that they are interested in the real people and they are "against the Agenda" which is probably fake and they would unashamedly betray their own words whenever they'll be in command.
 
Neuroborean said:
In Spain in fact it happened like that
first it was the 15-M movement (on which I personally participated for years) then, when the movement started deflating then Podemos, a "surprisive" political party was suddenly created to gather all the frustrated and enraged population that parcipated in 15-M (sort of occupy wallstreet, they said ocupa la plaza/occupy the squares) but felt that almost nothing was going on, so a lot of people joined or voted for that party, so that potential political and social uprising/unrest was almost completely subdued and repressed by "non-violent means" of persuassion and a fake "leftist" agenda (although riot police had already been brought into the squares to violently remove them).

Nowadays almost ANYONE trust Podemos and the likes and they've created some kind of "trumpist" "right-wing" or "alt-right" party that now does the same theatre role, to claim that they are interested in the real people and they are "against the Agenda" which is probably fake and they would unashamedly betray their own words whenever they'll be in command.
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There is no political solution, it’s all lies. The entire western world is based on lies, the biggest being it’s currencies. If the USs money were sound, they wouldn’t be able to just print it, and would have to come to the people to ask for funding when they wage war or do some other fuckery. It sounds simplistic, but it really all comes back to the central banks, and their grift to steal wealth and productivity from western nations imo.
And ya they use all those same tactics here, I spot it now before they even do it, and it’s just all so tiresome.
 
Dropperneck said:
There is no political solution, it’s all lies. The entire western world is based on lies, the biggest being it’s currencies. If the USs money were sound, they wouldn’t be able to just print it, and would have to come to the people to ask for funding when they wage war or do some other fuckery. It sounds simplistic, but it really all comes back to the central banks, and their grift to steal wealth and productivity from western nations imo.
And ya they use all those same tactics here, I spot it now before they even do it, and it’s just all so tiresome.
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The problem is even worse, they don't give an actual fuck to destroy and entire region like Europe, supposedly to "defend" democracy or whatever other "Value", but they are really playing Monopoly and capsizing Europe on purpose for those people to keep economic control over China. They don't give a damn about regular people they will enslaved everyone of us if they could, just to stop China progress.
It's all so outrageous that sometimes I think the theater goes even further and they have a pact with China (more violent theater, pre-arranged wars and other games of artifice.)
 
Neuroborean said:
The problem is even worse, they don't give an actual fuck to destroy and entire region like Europe, supposedly to "defend" democracy or whatever other "Value", but they are really playing Monopoly and capsizing Europe on purpose for those people to keep economic control over China. They don't give a damn about regular people they will enslaved everyone of us if they could, just to stop China progress.
It's all so outrageous that sometimes I think the theater goes even further and they have a pact with China (more violent theater, pre-arranged wars and other games of artifice.)
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Yup, and while china isn’t perfect. And even if they are debt trapping nations, they are helping to build things rather than just doing war and destruction like the west. Sucks you guys don’t have strong constitutional protections, but they are doing the same shit here. Culling the native population, and flooding the country with an illegal slave class that won’t talk back. Hard to be optimistic about anything, when everything is such shit and they don’t even bother hiding it anymore.
 
Asclepius said:
It's all about votes; they(either party) dgaf about the QOL of the population.
Open borders, as in Europe are about filling up a statistical gap within the population pyramid - that's it. It's a rigged game; they care not for natives or, non- natives, it's about the economic spreadsheets - everyone's game; everyone's pawned.
They all have disregard for us.
Communities (real ones not politically assigned ones) are the only chip on politicians shoulders - keep em strong; All of the regular, decent people, no matter their colour or creed. That, is the thorn in their side. 😉😎
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Us “gun nuts” are the real thorn…
 
Dropperneck said:
Look at the billions of dollars going into the campaign to ban semi auto rifles. If you take out hunting accidents they kill maybe 100 people a year. Why don’t more people see they are so obviously being played?
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They have no fight in them. Kinda people that believe you can talk out any situation like rational human beings :)
 
Neuroborean said:
In Spain in fact it happened like that
first it was the 15-M movement (on which I personally participated for years) then, when the movement started deflating then Podemos, a "surprisive" political party was suddenly created to gather all the frustrated and enraged population that parcipated in 15-M (sort of occupy wallstreet, they said ocupa la plaza/occupy the squares) but felt that almost nothing was going on, so a lot of people joined or voted for that party, so that potential political and social uprising/unrest was almost completely subdued and repressed by "non-violent means" of persuassion and a fake "leftist" agenda (although riot police had already been brought into the squares to violently remove them).

Nowadays almost ANYONE trust Podemos and the likes and they've created some kind of "trumpist" "right-wing" or "alt-right" party that now does the same theatre role, to claim that they are interested in the real people and they are "against the Agenda" which is probably fake and they would unashamedly betray their own words whenever they'll be in command.
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The 5 star party in Italy reminds me of this, it is populist and it is now divided. I remember hearing and reading that it was basically owned by the Chinese the way neoleftist democrats in the USA are.

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Five Star Movement - Wikipedia

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Dropperneck said:
Yup, and while china isn’t perfect. And even if they are debt trapping nations, they are helping to build things rather than just doing war and destruction like the west. Sucks you guys don’t have strong constitutional protections, but they are doing the same shit here. Culling the native population, and flooding the country with an illegal slave class that won’t talk back. Hard to be optimistic about anything, when everything is such shit and they don’t even bother hiding it anymore.
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It's kinda sad since it seems that most people would finally support China just because of that, the fact they are not directly violent, they conquer through subtile means and economic violence, so they seem "not as bad".
It doesn't matter anymore that they seem completely materialistic and devoid of high, sublime values, because those Elites in the West don't have it neither.
So, who cares anymore that China takes control? the only thing "normies" want is to have better life conditions, a job, some extra money or perhaps a house (not even a "bigger" house...)
Now we have clearly surpassed (in terms of de-evolution) the "luxury society", the Progress-based values and tendencies, that is starting to be clear, we cannot "aim" to live better than our parents, but just to "keep alive" in the mayhem seems to be the current social aim (at least here, in a lot of places of Europe).
 
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