Mass Shooting and Gun Control Megathread
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Cream Gravy?
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Not carry in the open, just carrying at all… it was unconstitutional from the get go to put licensing in the hands of arbitrary bureaucrats who could deny permits on a whim.
bullshit.
while it's true that the u.k. is making changes to its knife laws, there is nothing focusing on - or even just including - butter knives specifically. here's a page on the law which explicitly lists banned knives: Selling, buying and carrying knives
you're lying to try to make the moves seem more draconian than they actually are.
alasdair
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Im down with carrying something at all times. OK with everyone else as well. Fuck it gotta practice, randy. hahaa
i get it. but laws and sich are broken by me and (i would say) everyone else every day in some way. depending on who is reading statute and how they interpret the "reality" of justice.
just lemme stap my gat 24
arm and train anyone from first grade on.
its their right as americans to defend themselves
it is a written document that gets argued to death
i get it. but laws and sich are broken by me and (i would say) everyone else every day in some way. depending on who is reading statute and how they interpret the "reality" of justice.
just lemme stap my gat 24
arm and train anyone from first grade on.
its their right as americans to defend themselves
Jabberwocky
Frumious Bandersnatch
I think it was Justice Thurgood Marshall who said "You try to do the right thing and the law will follow". I can't say I ever agreed until now with the abortion debate, but maybe there's something more to it than I can comprehend at the moment. We have all the tools to deal with guns that I know: the who, what, how, or when I have no idea.
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Also in the news and off topic: California has a new reparations law to help people apply for reparations, I wonder what that's about, California usually comes in behind the feds, at least they did with health care, so I don't know what's up with that. I thought stuff like reparations and MMT were Democratic buzzwords, I don't know, anyway food for thought.
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Also in the news and off topic: California has a new reparations law to help people apply for reparations, I wonder what that's about, California usually comes in behind the feds, at least they did with health care, so I don't know what's up with that. I thought stuff like reparations and MMT were Democratic buzzwords, I don't know, anyway food for thought.
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Droppersneck
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I talk to a few londoners on discord that I got to confirm that they do indeed require ID for kitchen cutlery sets including butter knives. And most people have seen the pics that circulated about it. Regulating law abiding citizens doesn’t help this particular problem of societal rot unfortunately. This womans testimony pretty much sums up guns for most of us. so powerful
AbbeyLee
Bluelighter
What?
Droppersneck
Bluelighter
Oh ya I thought the hyperbole was obvious, It’s insane enough there, just wish they would get some common sense acid control, that seems like a real terror.
well, when you can't make your point without exaggerating what does that say about your point?
alasdair
alasdair
Droppersneck
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My point was clearly made, banning things doesn’t solve anything and only limits the rights of law abiding citizens. No one is giving their guns up, especially with the authoritarianism/belligerence the establishment has shown over the past few years. Guns are why we didnt look like aussie or Canada during Covid.
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No firearm rights were 'expanded' lol... simply restored. The New York 'may-issue' permit system was inherently unconstitutional and allowed for corrupt bureaucrats to decide who has rights or not. The supreme court decision in this case was simply saying, "No, you cannot have a 'may-issue' style permit system unless the biased elements and undue burdens are removed," which essentially voids may-issue permit laws as they are inherently biased and place undue burden upon applicants.
Shall-issue permits will remain in place, and don't place undue burdens or biases upon citizens. In Texas I had to get fingerprinted, have a FBI background check, pay a $50 fee, and take 8 hours of training to get my permit. That's perfectly fine, as if I meet those requirements, no government official can deny me my permit; whereas in NY, they had it setup where the majority of law abiding citizens who would qualify for a shall-issue permit were being denied, for no other reason than bureaucratic biases. Hence, may-issue permits are unAmerican, and unconstitutional, because they strip rights from citizens without any due process, without any objectivity, without any sense or reason.
It's a bit disorienting... feeling elation for the restored rights of all New Yorkers (and Californians, etc.), and sadness at the rights stripped from all women across the whole nation. I think I'm in a weird minority in that I'm very pro-abortion yet I'm also very pro-firearm-ownership. I haven't met anyone else who feels that both should be 100% legal.
A day of good news and a day of bad... the universe always has to balance out I guess.
AbbeyLee
Bluelighter
Yeah I've just been looking at the news here and the article in news.com.au which is Murdoch/Newscorp junk is titled "'Horrific': Millions Lose Abortion Rights in the US". I'm actually still trying to process this. With the gun thing, one can easily make the case that the US values the lives of unborn babies more than school children (and adults)
It's pretty whacked IMO and obviously the Republicans still have a lot of clout (I think I read this was Trump himself's doing?)
I think being pro-guns and pro-abortion makes more sense than the majority. That's a libertarian approach. Pro-guns and anti-abortion is right-wing nutjob approach
I was watching this and would rather post it here than the actual abortion thread. I'm definitely not making a joke of it -- Carlin was a very smart guy.
AbbeyLee
Bluelighter
You know what scares me about it? The thought of my daughter (20yo) needing an abortion and being stuck in one of those states. I'd definitely be using my shady skills in that situation.
jasperkent
Bluelighter
Exactly.I think being pro-guns and pro-abortion makes more sense than the majority. That's a libertarian approach. Pro-guns and anti-abortion is right-wing nutjob approach
Jerry Atrick
Bluelight Crew
So what's your opinion on banning abortion?
Droppersneck
Bluelighter
Not a fan, but this issue always should have been part of a democratic process, and there is half the country that feels it’s murder. I think women’s over all health will suffer in states that ban first trimester abortion. But this is what the populations of those states want by majority, and the fetal tissue lobby disturbs me to my core.
Las Veghost grower
Bluelighter
Science, makes you wonder what els Biden is either completly full of shit or ignorant about
i saw this and was wondering what 9mm he was referring to. could think of one in a defensive/offensive context. tbf he has said some strange shit. i think trump still has him beat, though. the don turned heads anytime he soike everyone was waiting on the trainwrecks... lol fun, though.
hate to lose a lung thatd suck