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The Evidence for Antidepressants Causing Mass Shootings​

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The Evidence for Antidepressants Causing Mass Shootings

Prior to the Covid vaccinations, psychiatric medications were the mass prescribed medication that had the worst risk to benefit ratio on the market. In addition to rarely providing benefit to patients, there are a wide range of severe complications that commonly result from psychiatric...
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"Why does nobody ever ask if drugs are involved in school shootings — or indeed other mass shootings — in the U.S. or anywhere else?"
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Why don't they ask whether these mass killers are on drugs?

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Worldwide antipsychotic drug search intensities: pharmacoepidemological estimations based on Google Trends data - Scientific Reports

Prescription patterns of antipsychotic drugs (APDs) are typically sourced from country-specific data. In this study, a digital pharmacoepidemiological approach was used to investigate APD preferences globally. Publicly available data on worldwide web search intensities in Google for 19 typical...
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Snafu in the Void said:
Umm lol what?

Show me one mass murder committed by a trans person or even one committed in the name of sexual identity or rights.

Look I dont really agree with feeding kids hormone blockers either, but I have no idea why you try to make these connections.
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Really?

I didnt realize they hid the fact the uvalde she / he pos was trans, after the first day

hmmmm ...
 
I personally think another big piece of this puzzle that is mental health is that as more and more people are put on antidepressants/antipsychotics and giving birth to kids while taking these cocktails of pharmaceuticals throughout their entire pregnancy people are just becoming more and more mentally ill…I mean the proof is there the cause hasn’t been proven tho…yet
 
Las Veghost grower said:
I personally think another big piece of this puzzle that is mental health is that as more and more people are put on antidepressants/antipsychotics and giving birth to kids while taking these cocktails of pharmaceuticals throughout their entire pregnancy people are just becoming more and more mentally ill…I mean the proof is there the cause hasn’t been proven tho…yet
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Shut up bigot! disarming the population is the only solution, the Tv says so
 
Yeah I’ve started to feel great concern over the prescribing of SSRIs/SNRIs so widely, especially as they push it into therapy for non-depression related shit like anxiety, nerve pain, IBS, etc. in place of traditional drugs that worked for those ailments.

Considering their widespread use and their well known side effects, I think it’s definitely a point of interest in regards to mass murders. Especially considering their uptick in occurrences in the years following the mass adoption of ADs in society. Their side-effects are literally violence some times (against one’s self, or others).
 
So let me get this straight. All the folks are saying it's a "mental health" issue but at the same time. all the doctors who treat mental health and their medications are evil. Are y'all sure you're barking up the right tree?

I think I posted a meme before, "If people are the problem and not guns, why would you ever give the problem guns?"
 
Jerry Atrick said:
all the doctors who treat mental health and their medications are evil.
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I do look unfavorably upon psychiatrists and what they push, yeah. Not all doctors, just psychiatrists.

But I just think there is a correlation, and perhaps causation. Those classes of drugs (SSRI/SNRI) have such profound impacts upon people, often times in a very negative way. I know this from both experience as well as the research behind these medications. It's a 100% plausible scenario.

Whether or not that's just part of a greater attempt to disarm citizens, I do not know. All I know is psychiatry has been going in the wrong direction these past two decades.
 
Cream Gravy? said:
But I just think there is a correlation, and perhaps causation. Those classes of drugs (SSRI/SNRI) have such profound impacts upon people, often times in a very negative way. I know this from both experience as well as the research behind these medications. It's a 100% plausible scenario.

Whether or not that's just part of a greater attempt to disarm citizens, I do not know. All I know is psychiatry has been going in the wrong direction these past two decades.
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It has been going in the wrong direction for a lot longer than two decades. Psychiatry and psychology have evolved as utilitarian methods to prevent the herd (us) from causing too many ripples. In other words to not interfere with the ruling classes games too much, which now includes not disturbing the mega-industry they control called pharmaceuticals. It has not been interested in really digging for the truth about how our minds work, and in fact actually leans towards dismissing the concept of a mind (as separate from brain) altogether!

They don't give a fuck. So long as it generates income (tax revenues) and gets people back into a state where they can do their jobs (more taxes..) without disturbing the herd, then it's all OK regardless of any damage to the individual. Who's going to go through all that training then turn around and question their field? Not many. Same thing for doctors if you bring up the potential dangers of vaccines for example. They don't want to know about it.

These powerful chemicals aren't the sole cause but a cofactor, imo. The answer to all this goes deep into psychology - what exactly is a thought, where do they come from, are they all ours, etc. Not everyone on these chemicals gets groomed by particular thoughts that results in them killing others, or themselves, but from anecdotal experiences it seems many do get bombarded by a lot of negative and intrusive thoughts. It seems obvious enough that children are particularly vulnerable and unable to reject certain thoughts or lines of thinking, as they tend to more strongly identify all thoughts as their own creations.
 
Electrum1 said:

The Evidence for Antidepressants Causing Mass Shootings​

amidwesterndoctor.substack.com

The Evidence for Antidepressants Causing Mass Shootings

Prior to the Covid vaccinations, psychiatric medications were the mass prescribed medication that had the worst risk to benefit ratio on the market. In addition to rarely providing benefit to patients, there are a wide range of severe complications that commonly result from psychiatric...
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Cream Gravy? said:
But I just think there is a correlation, and perhaps causation. Those classes of drugs (SSRI/SNRI) have such profound impacts upon people, often times in a very negative way.
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It's fairly startling to learn that SSRIs are well known to cause anger and rage, and more importantly the physical expression of that rage. Particularly in the first month of taking them and during withdrawal once people stop taking them.

This should be addressed, but I would be very hesitant to say these drugs CAUSED mass shootings, but may have had some sort of role.

If there were other mitigating factors such as various layers of prevention, which we currently desperately lack, who is to say that they would have happened?

However, I think it would be a huge mistake to just say these drugs caused this to happen or were the main factor.

If I got drunk and cheated on my wife, is it the alcohol's fault? Am I not still an asshole?

If I smoked meth and stole a car, is it the meth's fault? Did I not have some level of criminal mind before the meth?

I think blaming behavior on drugs is a slippery slope.


Also want to point out that, as far as I can see, there is zero correlation with antipsychotics and anger. There seems to be a decrease in anger, paranoia, etc with these drugs across the board. (as one would expect with those drugs)

Jerry Atrick said:
So let me get this straight. All the folks are saying it's a "mental health" issue but at the same time. all the doctors who treat mental health and their medications are evil. Are y'all sure you're barking up the right tree?
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I agree we need to navigate carefully here.

There is a growing anti-psychiatry movement that just bluntly calls it all evil, trash, stupid, a scam.

While I can appreciate some level of that sentiment, I've had some very poor psychiatric experiences myself, I think it's dumb to lump it all into one category and hate it all.
 
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