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As many of you may have heard massachusetts and California may be completely legalizing Marijuana and the government will control and tax it. The bills are2929 and 1801 check em out!!

Every1 here support these bills and try to get them passed even if you don't live in mass or cali because if these bills pass it could start a domino effect for other states.

I live in Massachusetts and im going to do everything in my power to hope these bills pass I'm asking every1 who reads this to do the same!!

So legalize it time to recognize it do whatever u can even if its crank up a weed song haha.

Oh and by the way if the bills do pass U need to be 21 to buy and it'll still be illegal to drive stoned. But lets get the ball rolling help out however u can!!
 
Also question 2 was just passed in Mass a couple months ago to decriminzalize the Tree so now an ounce or under is just a $100 fine sweeet
step in the right direction

NOW LETS MAKE ANOTHER STEP IN DA RIGHT DIRECTION HELP OUT!!
 
I've already done my part. California is just south of oregon. Medical is legal in cali and in oregon, so oregon would not be far behind with legalization:)
 
so if these were passed i guess you can enjoy your spliff in public while the dea still arrests you?
 
I think that's why Nixon Declared War on Drugs, high hippies putting flowers in guns and shit.

But, whatever, I can always go for some civil disobedience ;)
 
yeah, I hope this shit passes. THEN maybe obama will at least answer why he doesn't want to legalize it.

and I go to college in MA :)
 
I didn't expect even a couple state-wide decrim bills to get passed this early in my life, so I have my fingers-crossed.

But, never underestimate the power of shitty slogans that sound nice to people who have no experience or education on the subject. The kind of people who think "ADD kids are just rowdy, they don't need pills!" and don't think about how those kids might want a decent job that requires studying some hard shit in college. Or, "The liberals are trying to make pharmaceutical heroin, so it's easier for our kids to get!!!" as some sick mutation of the consideration of pharm heroin for a tiny minority who have repeatedly done poorly with methadone and/or bupe.

You know some PTA bitch who could fit in on King of the Hill is out there saying "Now bad parents are going to spend double the money they spent on booze to buy booze and marijuana!!"

Conservatives feed on many people's desire for punishing the different people that we can't change as well as unlikely fantasies/nightmares (You could get rich, so let's keep taxes low for wealthy! / The liberals will be asking for sibling marriage next!).

Prove me wrong, California and Massachusetts. I'd fucking love to gain some faith in our voting populace.
 
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I know this isn't PC, and I realize somehow legalizing in cali will be good for the movement, and i know i used to care a lot and now i'm probably just jaded but

more totally un-pc things (even though i'd vote for it no question)

1) does anyone in cali right now actually feel like marijuana is illegal? i know it's never felt like that to me in the bay at least

2) right now just saying blind averages, clubs in the bay are charging 50% more a z than your man and the club weed is almost always lower quality. so if it's legal is the club like experience going to drive out the indies? I honestly don't know what the answer is but it seems unlikely it would be indies driving out stores. also the illicit market was what was responsible for the extended price drop that finally took clubs off of the $350-$400 range

3) maybe i'm a cunt but right now i know where 100% of my money goes to and i play with their kids at bbq's. I mean i know cali's broke but it's hard to jump up and down to start paying them on whats a very grassroots transaction right now. Oh and at least the grower pays fed & state on that income, i know because we talked about it for a long time. He writes off nutes too.

4) sf before 215: smoke weed anywhere the owners didn't mind and np after 215: same

5) oak before last possible: smoke weed anywhere and no one cared, pulled over with the whole care reeking of kush, guy doesn't say a thing. oak after last possible: same

perm address and registered in denver...

6) colorado before medical: meh weed, never seen anyone hassled for smoking. -- co after medical: meh weed, never seen anyone hassled, heard there is a pot club somewhere?
7) denver before legalization: i guess they sometimes would hassle the hispanics in the park, np smoking anywhere they are cool with it -- denver after legalization: SAFER screams bloody murder, cops still hassle mexicans in the park, np smoking anywhere they are cool with it
8) denver before lowest possible: cops still hassling mexicans in the park, colorado still has 2nd tier bud 90% of the time -- denver after lowest possible: i think the cops have actually stopped hassling the mexicans in the park for weed! (now they hassle them for loitering)

it's just the two places i have the most experience with, so obviously i can't speak to everywhere maybe sometimes it's a night/day revolution but i don't get that impression

I really kind of like the west coast creep method with medical. I mean, you know thats a huge unspoken reason that 215 went through and they had such lax rules about cards and everything else right? once 215 came in anyone who bothered to be was legal (not that it really mattered unless you were growing weight). The old ladies and neo-cons didn't flip out because it was about the cancer, yo. clubs with their insane prices really helped solidify the grower base, helped them upgrade, helped them take care of their kids. it solidified the community increasing quality, raising demand for quality, stabilized the supply and strain availability
then we got or, and while i haven't seen the process i've been told its pretty tight there. but none the less the cali medical/decrim scene is impossible not to feel there.

And there's WA/NV/ND/CO/NM and it keeps coming and it's because the crazies don't get out screaming when you put medical on the ballot. But they sure do when you put legal, or at least they do in CO. We lost that here, though I voted for it of course, and I keep giving SAFER money even though they are kind of cunts about it in some ways (they love to buy outrageous billboards here every few months, something that says their message but has some kind of joke or image that makes all the stoners laugh and all the crazies send a million letters to the editor of the denver post.

Anyway, we lost CO legal. I think for the second time? I get confused because there is at least one something every election. so we don't have legal in CO, but, in the city i have:

1) CO medical
2) CO decrim
3) denver legal
4) denver lowest possible (passed after legal believe it or not.. (because of cops vs mexicans again)

anyway weed is so legal where i'm sitting you start wondering if you're breaking the law by being sober. and sooner or later we'll have co legal too and shit, i dunno

you know what is funny though? with all those laws, you walk by the bus stop at colfax and broadway, and there are still kids trying to sell you weed by being like pssst. and it's still one so so nug squeezed around a gram of the worst mex you've ever seen. and they ALWAYS say hey man come over here po-po's scopin'!

I realize this was a very very long rant and didn't really get to a good point, and i'm not trying to bust on you because i used to be rah rah, and ill still vote for it all. But I guess I just don't really understand what's going on. it seems to me that weed is pretty much ignored in like 80% of the states? If not at least in the rockies and west. and it just never seems to matter when a new law goes in. I get that it's winning, and i get that it does stop the targeted harassment some places do to select people, but in general it just feels like it already happened everywhere i go a long time ago.

/shrug

Oh but that's a good look for MA though - go east coast!!!
 
morphene said:
I really kind of like the west coast creep method with medical. I mean, you know thats a huge unspoken reason that 215 went through and they had such lax rules about cards and everything else right? once 215 came in anyone who bothered to be was legal (not that it really mattered unless you were growing weight). The old ladies and neo-cons didn't flip out because it was about the cancer, yo. clubs with their insane prices really helped solidify the grower base, helped them upgrade, helped them take care of their kids. it solidified the community increasing quality, raising demand for quality, stabilized the supply and strain availability
then we got or, and while i haven't seen the process i've been told its pretty tight there. but none the less the cali medical/decrim scene is impossible not to feel there.
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I ended up checking some shit out after i wrote this because i heard a weird thing and read up a bit and then called a couple of friends and i have to say that is the worst thing to keep for cali right now it happens. I think the medical creep is a great idea for how the rest of the west coast is going, but it turns out medical in cali just in the last year or two has started going really fucking super sketchy, like so cal medical has turned into some kind of combo of weed fiending kids paying like 75 an 8th which is bad enough but a good amount of the co-ops there have something really wrong going on, waaay too much money and waay too sketch, i don't know what's or who's behind it all but it is getting pretty fucked up. And directly connected to that is that they are totally tearing apart the communities in at least a couple places in norcal, worst is arcata so far where some estimates think 1 in 10 houses has been totally gutted and every inch is being used to push back to back cycles of "215 medical" and like one burns down a month and they bust something like 1 a week with just sketchy people on a sleeping bag in a corner with a gun and the hundreds of plants. Taken like 14,000 mature plants in the last year plus hundreds of trimmed pounds and like 50 guns and hundreds in thousands in cash. And it's a fucking tiny ass town, some kind of old hippie run gangster conpsiracy shit really that is just waay too much. (very possibly arcata alone is already producing more top tier than all of cali consumes in a whole year, or at least it's not like super far from impossible)

so they gotta do something, either fix the issues with medical (but they made that kinda hard to do) or just go full legalization because if it goes on too much longer it's gonna end up like mexico is these days in parts of the state. eek.
 
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