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Marijuana links with psychosis

Well said.


Interesting, I have the same symptoms as you describe, however all my episodes have been directly from d-amphetamine, sometimes meth (dunno why meth only gives episodes after long binges and d-amphet does every time), always mixed with weed or just weed by itself.

I can smoke and be okay now sometimes but if I smoke daily for a few days the delusions come back and persist for weeks, not worth it at all.
 
I am so over these bull shit stories about weed and psychosis... Has anyone ever thought it is most likely caused by the other shit peoples are putting into their bodies, perhaps there IS something in the water or cigarettes causing this. Who knows, all I know is, I will NEVER stop smoking... It's one of the few joys I get in life.
 
Just because marijuana is being increasingly linked to mental illness doesn't mean you have to stop smoking or should feel forced to. That's what I don't like about these types of articles.

I don't smoke cannabis, I can't stand it so I will relate to something else. I know cigarettes are terrible for me; there is no denying that my habit puts me at risk of cancer, cardiovascular disease and other problems. I'm not going to quit though. I love cigarettes, and as much as the government wants us all to quit I am going to exercise my free will and make the decision for myself to keep on smoking. :)

The same thing should apply here to marijuana. If I were smoking it, I would be aware of the risks and I should know my family history and look out for warning signs of mental illness; in the end though the decision should be up to me whether or not I put the substance into my body and take the risk of causing harm to myself. There is an endless variety of other ways I could legally risk killing or damaging myself, I don't see why the same doesn't apply to currently illegal substances.
 
Let me get this straight: So basically all this research says, is that if you were already genetically destined to be diagnosed with psychosis, smoking cannabis could speed up the onset. But if you weren't, then there's no chance of cannabis actually CAUSING psychosis. Is that right?
 
^ It's talking about schizophrenia, not just a psychotic episode I believe. That's the impression I got from reading the article at the top of the page, which is headlined psychosis but then the researcher talks just about schizophrenia.

And I'd wager that cannabis could cause a psychotic episode itself, minus predisposition.
 
As a few people have posted it's no huge suprise to see these results.
Still suppose I am going to become a schitzo in 40 years time, I suppose getting 2.7 years earlier for a life time of budd and joy isn't so bad haha.
 
well we have PROOF now that weed can cause these problems but the argument stays the same so nothing has changed or so we like to think
 
I honestly thought that it was common knowledge that if you have a predisposed condition that smoking marijuana wont help it. Personally I think there is a growing acceptance that people have for marijuana (which is long over due), I just dont hope this research changes a lot of peoples minds.
 
I have a friend in the army. He used to get high all the time. Stay baked for hours.

Then half way through his tour of duty, he was almost killed in Afghanistan while bomb hunting. He found one, late, and it blew him however far. He had a bad head injury. He recovered what I thought was completely and finished in Afghanistan.

His personality has totally changed. Now....He is stern. Can be fierce. and says he knows he can never smoke weed again. He wouldn't say why. Just that there was no way he could handle being high now.

Before he got hurt he would always talk about how good it would feel to get out of the army and celebrate by smoking a blunt. He stuck to all the army rules about drugs and didn't smoke after he went in.

After he got hurt, he changed his tune and now he won't touch marijuana. He almost seems to be afraid of what it might do, now that he has had such a traumatic injury to his mind.

I know it's not the same thing as the topic, so if the moderators, who are keeping the boards swept up, delete this, it's not a problem.

I just wonder about the effects of marijuana on brain trauma.
 
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thestudent14 said:
As a few people have posted it's no huge suprise to see these results.
Still suppose I am going to become a schitzo in 40 years time, I suppose getting 2.7 years earlier for a life time of budd and joy isn't so bad haha.
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The good (or the bad) news is for schizophrenia, if you haven't developed it by your 20s, then chances are you won't ever get it. Its peak incidence is during adolescence or early adulthood. So teens and early 20s. Its quite rare that someone would develop schizophrenia later in life (although women during menopause are at heightened risk). The brain during this time is undergoing alot of developmental changes, plus there are alot of changes going on life during this time that cause stress. This period of time is when alot of mental illnesses occur, so if you can make it through your 20s without incidence, chances are you will be ok.
 
psytaco said:
The good (or the bad) news is for schizophrenia, if you haven't developed it by your 20s, then chances are you won't ever get it. Its peak incidence is during adolescence or early adulthood. So teens and early 20s. Its quite rare that someone would develop schizophrenia later in life (although women during menopause are at heightened risk). The brain during this time is undergoing alot of developmental changes, plus there are alot of changes going on life during this time that cause stress. This period of time is when alot of mental illnesses occur, so if you can make it through your 20s without incidence, chances are you will be ok.
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Are you sure about this? It was my understanding that Schizophrenia was more common in late adult hood after a mid-life crisis and where the stress has been unbearable.
 
^ Exact years vary between sources, but peak onset is definitely in late adolescence - mid/late 20s.

Mr Blonde said:
Just because marijuana is being increasingly linked to mental illness doesn't mean you have to stop smoking or should feel forced to. That's what I don't like about these types of articles.

I don't smoke cannabis, I can't stand it so I will relate to something else. I know cigarettes are terrible for me; there is no denying that my habit puts me at risk of cancer, cardiovascular disease and other problems. I'm not going to quit though. I love cigarettes, and as much as the government wants us all to quit I am going to exercise my free will and make the decision for myself to keep on smoking. :)

The same thing should apply here to marijuana. If I were smoking it, I would be aware of the risks and I should know my family history and look out for warning signs of mental illness; in the end though the decision should be up to me whether or not I put the substance into my body and take the risk of causing harm to myself. There is an endless variety of other ways I could legally risk killing or damaging myself, I don't see why the same doesn't apply to currently illegal substances.
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Well said :) We should be able to choose our own poisons if we aren't harming others in the process. Enough double standards! There are so many people for whom cigarettes/alcohol/weed/(whatever one's DOC may be) is one of the few pleasures in a tough life. Maybe we don't all want to be pure and healthy and live to 100 ;)

UnSquare said:
Freaking out from herb =/= organic brain disorder.
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This thread isn't really about organic brain disorder (a term that isn't used much these days anyway).
 
Maybe we don't all want to be pure and healthy and live to 100
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Exactly; I dare say we would all be very fucking boring if we lived clean and aimed to get as old as we possibly could.

have a friend in the army. He used to get high all the time. Stay baked for hours.

Then half way through his tour of duty, he was almost killed in Afghanistan while bomb hunting. He found one, late, and it blew him however far. He had a bad head injury. He recovered what I thought was completely and finished in Afghanistan.

His personality has totally changed. Now....He is stern. Can be fierce. and says he knows he can never smoke weed again. He wouldn't say why. Just that there was no way he could handle being high now.

Before he got hurt he would always talk about how good it would feel to get out of the army and celebrate by smoking a blunt. He stuck to all the army rules about drugs and didn't smoke after he went in.

After he got hurt, he changed his tune and now he won't touch marijuana. He almost seems to be afraid of what it might do, now that he has had such a traumatic injury to his mind.

I know it's not the same thing as the topic, so if the moderators, who are keeping the boards swept up, delete this, it's not a problem.

I just wonder about the effects of marijuana on brain trauma.
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Who cares if it's not right on topic, it's definitely related and very interesting post to read. :)

Traumatic brain injuries can sometimes be associated with psychotic symptoms, as well as a decline in all sorts of higher and lower levels of brain functioning. Perhaps this is why he is avoiding marijuana? Severe personality changes are also associated with brain injury as you know, which may be the other explanation.
 
So 1% of the population which are nutty should not smoke weed... As far as I am concerned this "research" does not prove that marijuana reduces the age of the onset of schizophrenia in the very small percentage of people that have the disorder.

Whether or not marijuana may trigger an episode in somebody that is already nuts is one thing, but it can not cause a person that is not in the habit of losing contact with reality, to lose contact with reality. A very small minority of people are not well connected to reality, ie they think they are jesus christ etc, this is not relevant to the vast majority of people.

In my opinion marijuana does not cause schizophrenia or psychosis.

Marijuana is a fairly safe drug, much safer than both alcohol and tobacco.
 
Amazed-Pi said:
Agreed, the current laws regarding Cannabis in Australia are counterproductive.

For example, penalties for possession of Cannabis are based on weight, and not the total amount of THC contained within. Growers can then be compelled to grow certain strains that have a greater THC to Cannabidiol (cannabinoid with antipsychotic properties), and therefore the Cannabis is more likely to trigger psychosis or Schizophrenia in the minority who have a genetic predisposition towards it.

I believe that it should be "legalized" and regulated similar to the Netherlands model, where there's a limit on how much can be purchased and where it can be used, or that Medical Marijuana be legalized at the very least.

There's no problems having drugs for Medical purposes that are otherwise illegal (eg the strong Opioids like Morphine/Oxycodone), so I don't see why they couldn't at least have Medical Marijuana for those patients (that DON'T have a family history of Psychosis) who'd respond better to it in terms of pain management/stimulating appetite etc, not to mention avoiding the negative side effects of nausea and constipation...

I've noticed that the vast majority of articles in the mainstream Australian Media always seem to subtly portray Cannabis in negative light without mentioning the medical uses. I have a very strong suspicion that certain industries have vested interests in keeping Cannabis illegal and preventing Medical Marijuana from being introduced... :X
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Some great points there. I'd like to see some new research/facts/figures/studies whatever you wont to call it about how much help medical marijuana can have for chronic pain sufferers. Some people i have spoken to tell me that pot helps them manage the pain much better than substances like Oxy or Lyrica. So some companies might have a vested interest in keeping it off the market. Forever.
 
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