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Marijuana is a Psychedelic, is it not?

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ballsaq

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Some of my friends have a hard time believing me on this. But Marijuana is not a stimulant, or a depressant, although it can possess both properties depending on the strain smoked, and the persons individual reaction to the substance. But as erowid classifies, and as I would classify it, it is a Psychedelic.

Anyone else?
 
I think so.. I was smoking alot last night and I could definetly tell music/movies sounded way better. I also dozed off and closed my eyes and seen audio waves dancing to the music. I could also see anything I thought of through my eyes, but with my eyes closed. I know the weed did it too because I'm trying to do it again right now and it isn't happening.
 
A simple look at the Cannabis vault on Erowid would answer your question in more detail.

but yes, Cannabis is a hallucinogen
 
Shit...I wish I could smoke some of the stuff you guys have. I never hallucinate, or even some close when I smoke.
 
Most definitely a psychedelic.

Its obviously much more mild than others, and tolerance builds up pretty quickly with regular use, but a cat is a cat as far as I'm concerned.

Shit...I wish I could smoke some of the stuff you guys have. I never hallucinate, or even some close when I smoke.
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I wouldnt say psychedelics are synonymous with hallucinogens, but it is a common effect. Do you ever get any visuals with mushrooms or acid or anything for that matter? Some people seem more susceptible than others.
 
I would say primarily psychedelic, secondarily depressant..

But honestly, I would have to agree with the drug information poster on my wall circa 1970: Marijuana is its own category
 
it depends on the individual

i have full blown trips, complete with vivid visuals. i also can't sleep for a couple hours after the peak ends, it's very stimulating. (especially with my vaporizer, it's very efficient)

unless it's an indica strain, in which case i don't trip but just pass out (if i stay awake, i barely move)

perhaps i'm just hypersensitive to cannabis
 
Classifying it as a "stimulat" is silly, the psychedelic properties are where the "stimulant" feel is. Especially in a good sativa or hybrid.

Your mind is very stimulated like on acid, it feels more cognitive and you feel more energetic than "stoned" like when you smoke indica where you're dealin with less THC to CBD) ratio.


Intoxicant is referring to the more stoned feeling high, it's just less THC giving it a more stoney feeling, but still psychedelic since its always gonna have some % of THC.


both types of weed are depressent i figure..

I think they should just put psychedelic/depressant

Cause LSA is called "psychedelic" and compared to LSD/shrooms/peyote, it's very mild. I've had more tripped out experiences on weed, especially my fisrt smoking months, than on LSA with 13 HBWS.
 
I wouldnt say psychedelics are synonymous with hallucinogens, but it is a common effect. Do you ever get any visuals with mushrooms or acid or anything for that matter? Some people seem more susceptible than others.
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It shouldn't be.

Besides, psychedelics don't produce hallucinations. Hallucinations are things that aren't there, you'll talk to people who aren't there. Delirium.

You actually get those from deliriants like high doses of nutmeg or dramamine, also DXM and ketamine. Since those drugs are not changing your perception for the external world, they just make you dreamy and delirius(deliriants). Sleep deprivation can make you hallucinate and see people or objects that aren't really there.

LSD, shrooms, and even cannabis can change perception of time, music, objects, motion, colors, ect.

LSD causes patterns over everything, well at 2-3 hits of decent acid. It affects people differently, but genreal you perceive objects to exist in ways you've never seen.

You can see day dreams of shit that's happening on the wall but you are never completely unaware of your envirement and whatnot even as evrything appears to be moving, patterns.
 
Marijuana can definately be psychadelic. Eat enough sativa brownies and you will see for yourself.

Depending on the strain, you can get both stimulating and depressing stones from marijuana. All indicas I have ever smoked have a couch lock and/or lathargic high to them.

When I smoke sativas, however, I just want to jump on my longboard and bomb some sidewalks.
 
Classifying it as a "stimulat" is silly, the psychedelic properties are where the "stimulant" feel is.
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cannabis increases your heart rate and blood pressure. these things have nothing to do with its "psychedelic properties"

cannabis has characteristics of psychedelics, depressants and stimulants. it's pointless to try to say it can only be in one of the categories
 
Weed is a psychoactive... and belongs in the hallucinogen category, yes.
 
Marijuana is most definitely a psychedelic. With repeated use, its psychedelic properties become less noticeable, however. Also, its effect on the thought process and body perception are where it is noticeable as a psychedelic. Visual hallucinations are not what psychedelics are all about, although some psychedelic produce them. Actually, as killo described, psychedelics more accurately produce changes in perception, not actual hallucinations. No psychedelic is going to cause you to see dancing gnomes and other such nonsense.
 
Akoto said:
I wouldnt say psychedelics are synonymous with hallucinogens, but it is a common effect. Do you ever get any visuals with mushrooms or acid or anything for that matter? Some people seem more susceptible than others.
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Still, I thought hallucinating wasn't the same as having visuals. Like, you can have hallucinogenic thoughts/thoughtpatterns? Which is definitely the case with weed, it opens your mind and you think in different, more "creative" ways than you normally would.
 
ballsaq said:
Some of my friends have a hard time believing me on this. But Marijuana is not a stimulant, or a depressant, although it can possess both properties depending on the strain smoked, and the persons individual reaction to the substance. But as erowid classifies, and as I would classify it, it is a Psychedelic.

Anyone else?
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IMO, absolutely. Some people get few/no psychedelic effects from it, some get quite a lot.

Myself, it feels like my IQ drops 50+ points after a few hits... which is why I really haven't cared for it for a number of years. Just doesn't relax/mellow me out like it does most people... I just feel slow & stupid on it.
 
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Still, I thought hallucinating wasn't the same as having visuals. Like, you can have hallucinogenic thoughts/thoughtpatterns? Which is definitely the case with weed, it opens your mind and you think in different, more "creative" ways than you normally would.
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hallucinogen = generating hallucinations. a hallucination is something that looks real, and you think it's real, but it's entirely in your head. psychedelics don't do this, except at extremely high doses (most drugs do this at high doses)

deleriants are hallucinogens. also, from bluelight reports, MDA and dissociatives also tend to be hallucinogenic

visuals are distortions and patterns and sometimes imagery that the user knows would not be there if he didn't take the drug. they can be not so profound (cool looking, but just normal visuals) or directly linked with the user's thoughts in a way that feels almost spiritually profound.

cannabis, lsd, mushies, etc, cause visuals. they're psychedelics but they're usually not hallucinogenic
 
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