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Well around about 2 months ago I quit daily smoking (1 year) and had a massive break, I smoked again for the first time a few weeks ago on a meth come down and it seemed to cause psychosis. I thought every one around me was talking about me and I couldn't do anything but sit there and stare.

I smoked again last night and this time with no come down and I seem to have gotten it again, I thought the people around me were talking about me, even that the TV was trying to give me messages about my life.

I did feel like marijuana was starting to make me feel "loopy" towards the end of my daily smoking, however I rarely did it around other people. Just experienced a very altered internal dialogue that I didn't get from smoking before.

Has any one else experienced this before? Is it a sign of the beginning of a mental illness or can I just not smoke pot any more?
 
well marijuana is known to exacerbate psychosis. so i think once you started fucking with the meth you screwed yourself. stop meth. take maybe like a week break from meth and bud. then smoke bud alone and see how it goes. and maybe dont smoke super danks, and/or dont smoke a ton. at least not right away
 
I've never used crystal meth or even amphetamines in moderate/large doses but it sounds like what you wrote about with the people and paranoia was from the meth based on how meth and even cocaine abuse can do that to people.

If you can't stop using crystal at least stop using it frequently or get help to quit.

How long had you been using meth before you came down? Days or weeks?

I've heard that crystal meth can have residual effects the next few days/weeks and even months after you come down.

Herb can also make some people anxious or paranoid or bring it out when they're high.

If you're worried about your mental health see a professional and be honest about your drug use as you will not get in trouble for it.

As for what you described when you were just smoking herb when you got the stream of consciousness internal dialogue that sounds like anxiety or how when some people smoke herb they get so introverted and lost in their own thoughts. I'm not a doctor/psychologist and I'm just going by what you wrote.

I know that in my experience when I got anxiety/paranoia from herb that smoking daily made the anxiety that I'd get from herb go away but it did cause me to sort of withdrawl socially and I'd just stay at home and stay high all day/night and the last thing I wanted to really do was go out and talk to people while high.

Lay off the meth and all stimulants and drugs for a long time like months and then see how smoking herb in small amounts is like one or a few hits is and do it alone.
 
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it's the meth man and the bud ain't helping.

On the bright side, though, when I'm alone and very stoned I sometimes feel how psychedelic it can be. In groups I don't notice it so much.
 
Maybe I wasn't clear enough. I only use meth occasionally. And I had only had one hit, albeit a large hit.


I have tried smoking weed without any other substances involved with the same results. Intense anxiety, with schizophrenic/psychosis like symptoms resulting.
 
Marijuana causing paranoia and anxiety? Who would have thought...

Seriously tho dude, this is old news. Just stick to smoking and enjoying it when you are alone or in extremely comfortable situations. My guess is that you are not 100% comfortable in the group you are hanging/smoking with and the pot is just amplifying that. I doubt you have any (serious) mental issues.
 
This happens around every group of friends I encounter.

There have been times when people have been talking to me and I thought they were saying something completely different to what they actually were. Hard to explain, but I have kicked people out of my house before because they were talking about me saying all bad things about me, that I'm a drug addict and other stuff. Even that my penis is small, ahahahahhaa.
They were very confused when I got angry and made them all leave.
 
I used to regularly have psychotic episodes on pot. I too would think people were saying or thinking negative things about me. I seriously believed I could hear people's thoughts. I went into a downward spiral where I thought everything bad I was experiencing was caused by people fucking me over. Which wasn't the whole truth, only part of it. Eventually I went so far into my psychosis that I landed myself in jail. That was a big wake up call that really helped put things into perspective.

Now I'm on meds for bi-polar and depression, and can smoke MJ without too many problems. I simply don't get angry anymore; only mildly annoyed from time-to-time. Going to jail and taking a lot of DXM really played a big part in helping me control my emotions. The meds also help, but mainly to keep the depression at bay.
 
Suggesting I should push myself over the edge, land in jail, abuse DXM and then I'll be all good? haha, joking.

I have started to think TV shows and movies are sending hidden messages directly to me. And during some of these fits of psychosis have been close to the point of buying a gun and going back after the people that are out to get me.
 
Jakeperson said:
Suggesting I should push myself over the edge, land in jail, abuse DXM and then I'll be all good? haha, joking.
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I was fortunate to have survived everything. I wouldn't suggest anyone take the route I took.

I have started to think TV shows and movies are sending hidden messages directly to me. And during some of these fits of psychosis have been close to the point of buying a gun and going back after the people that are out to get me.
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I really hope you're joking about all this. But if you aren't, may I make a suggestion? Nip this shit in the bud before it takes you down! Do whatever it takes! Next time you feel like taking your rage to the people, pop a sedating dose of diphenhydramine instead. DPH can work as an anti-psychotic.

I would rather be fuzzed-out and mentally-deficient for a day than to express anger, hurt people and land myself back in jail. Diphenhydramine really works to curb your anger. I've used it successfully several times since I got out of jail. But I don't, under any circumstances, use pot to lessen my anger. Used that way, it will eventually let me down and drive me further into psychosis. At least, it used to work that way.

And if people are sending you subliminal messages? Trying to control you? Talking bad behind your back? So The Fuck What? It doesn't matter. Only you are responsible for your own behavior.
 
if the drug doesn't agree with you, stop taking the drug.

seek counseling if you genuinely believe your friends are all out to get you.
 
You sound like you're in the early stages of schizophrenia. STOP ALL DRUG USE IMMEDIATELY AND GET TO A PSYCHOLOGIST ASAP! I'm not exaggerating here. I've been on the wrong side of the psych ward door, and I've seen what happens to people like you that didn't quit...

It may be that this is just a temporary thing and you'll be able to smoke again someday, but with this sort of thing you need to err on the side of caution. What you are describing is very serious and quite severe. If you told these things to an officer of the law, you would be put on psychiatric lockdown for the minimum length of time as required by your jurisdiction.
 
it astounds me that some people are surprised that cannabis accentuates (read: intensifies) situations, emotions, other drugs, etc.


lets examine the evidence:

- OP uses crystal meth.
- OP was on a meth comedown (on tina alone, you get bad paranoia)
- OP smoked weed on said comedown.
- "oh my god im all paranoid, i wonder why".

you were sketched out, you got stoned, your mind went weird. big surprise there, eh?


lesson here, kids? dont smoke a hallucinogen when coming down off methamphetamine.
(yes, cannabis is a hallucinogen)




OP i along with everyone else would advise you to STOP use of ALL drugs.
that means alcohol, coke, ganja, meth, i dont care, just stop it.
see a doctor/psychiatrist if things worsen even without drugs.

good luck.
 
i've found that if you dont go over the top and get crazy with it, pot can really help with things such as depression and bi-polar dissorder. it also seems to take the edge off a mdpv downer fairly well but thats only my experance so be careful
 
Yeah there are studies that weed causes psycosis .... But I've never experienced it .
And not many other bluelighters have either .

It's a small minortiy that experience it .


But in your case I don't think it's the marijuana at all . It's most likeley the meth man .
 
Sega420 said:
lets examine the evidence:

- OP uses crystal meth.
- OP was on a meth comedown (on tina alone, you get bad paranoia)
- OP smoked weed on said comedown.
- "oh my god im all paranoid, i wonder why".
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jamesmartin said:
But in your case I don't think it's the marijuana at all . It's most likeley the meth man .
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As it says in the original post and in another post this has happened without meth involved whatsoever.

Please read the thread carefully.
 
mecaib said:
I really hope you're joking about all this. But if you aren't, may I make a suggestion? Nip this shit in the bud before it takes you down! Do whatever it takes! Next time you feel like taking your rage to the people, pop a sedating dose of diphenhydramine instead. DPH can work as an anti-psychotic.

And if people are sending you subliminal messages? Trying to control you? Talking bad behind your back? So The Fuck What? It doesn't matter. Only you are responsible for your own behavior.
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I wasn't joking at all, and I would have made sure I didn't go to jail. Thank you very much I didn't know that about DPH, will get some to have on hand later on.

As for the second part, I have/am trying to take that on as much as possible.
 
Meth can cause insanely powerful auditory hallucinations. Sometimes persisting for weeks after your last use. Weed can cause schizophrenia, a correlation between people who started smoking young (under 18 ) developing schizophrenia later in life. Having said that I think you should just chill with substances until it goes away. I don't think you are permanently damaged, the voices will go away and the conspiracy you have cooked up in your mind will slowly seem more and more outrageous to you. You already know that these things are in your head and don't believe the delusion so that's at least a good sign.

DPH can also cause dementia/delirium so rather keep the dosages small - it is also a limited DA antagonist (someone correct me if I'm wrong) which should in theory give you some relief from your symptoms. If you went to a psychiatrist he would prob put you on Zyprexa (Olanzapine) which is probably the best choice if you have med insurance (very expensive). Something like a (limited) 2 weeks of treatment with Klonopin would probably also help you to realize that it's all in your head for good and allow you to be at ease in social situations.

I've been through a similar situation, you just have to grit your teeth and get through it. Be strong and good luck.
 
Ok come on. We all think weed should be legal blah blah, its a weak drug, doesn't cause trouble.
I'd be happy for it to be sold like alcohol but after one loony episode on it you must see a doctor to see if you can still enjoy it. I would imagine government weed would be dry and old grassy like shit though, not like Cali and Nederlands.

The truth is, if you smoke enough weed, for long periods of time, all day and to go back to sleep, fall into the same routine of nothing and same thoughts.. what is that.. it is psychosis. Weed causes psychosis. Psychosis can dissipate or be treated. Latent schizophrenia can indeed be brought on by the marijuana alone. But when you have other drugs mixing iss when it becomes crazy and never going back without pharmacies :)
 
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