wArEhOuSePuNk
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marijuana as an antidepressant
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FreedomOfTheMind
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DrumnBassBandit said:
EXACTLY. smoke to chage your perception, to activate the 5th circuit, to enter a new type of conciousness, or to just kick it and have a good time with the girl, friends, etc.
When you smoke weed to medicate depression, just like with any drug (except antidepressants such as Prozac since that shit actually alters brain chemistry) it is harmful in the long run and just makes shit worse. If you are depressed, work out your problems first and chill with the smoking, and then when you are feeling good again, smoke herb and celebrate how beautiful life is.
wArEhOuSePuNk
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Bullshit.... I was diagnosed with depression when I was 12 & prescribed absolute crap that made me feel horrible. ? How is medicating depression with a natural herb any different (or worse)than medicating with a man-made substance that if stopped, will you feel worse than you did originally.?8( SMOKE WEED EVERYDAYFreedomOfTheMind said:
Anti-depressants can actually cause symptoms such as thoughts of suicide...... the very feelings they are supposed to stop..... A close friend of mine was recently prescribed prozac......2 weeks later he jumped in front of a train...... Doctors have even testified in courts to the negative effects of anti-depressants
what about taking a low dose every few hours (after it wears off) ppl do this with LSD (antidepressant effect but no hallucinations in a low dose)
this way it will stimulate your cannabinoid receptors and have an antidepressant effect without making you high
way better then prozac if you ask me, and they are developping antidepressants that works like this, dont see why a low dose weed shouldnt work
even ketamine is used in low doses for this purpose
this way it will stimulate your cannabinoid receptors and have an antidepressant effect without making you high
way better then prozac if you ask me, and they are developping antidepressants that works like this, dont see why a low dose weed shouldnt work
even ketamine is used in low doses for this purpose
LvMkngFlwrChld
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i get the opposite effect from weed.
Blowmonkey
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I removed a bunch of replies. Please fight elsewhere, let's keep this on-topic.
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rulerofthecosmos
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40ozTOfreedom said:
i disagree!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i self medicated on marijuana for severe depression for over 5 years and believe me it worked....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!(i doubt id be typing this now if it didnt!!!!!!!!!!!)
i have tried nearly every anti-depressant avail and i suffered side effects from them all.....ranging from unable to sleep,sleeping ALL day,upset stomach with cramps,lack of sex drive etc etc etc.....!!!
i made my doctor aware of the fact i smoked and he just said that he cant really condone it but if it works then it works....!
I feel the best and most normal now that ive felt in like 10 years ......!
MJ does have theurapeutic benefits......and i believe i am testiment to that!!!!!!
ninjadanslarbretabar
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it has for me
ive spend 10 year of my life in depression,
effexor and risperdal didn't work
working out did work, usually its always great to exercise more
and then i started smoking a small joint before jogging, i did that for 3 year...
it made me realize how good it was as a antidepressant
but like lolitsjohn said :
i was using small quantity, enough to feel the fuzz, usually it was 1 or 3 small joint, after jogging i was fighting my favorite tree, doing some martial art stuff against it ...
thats actually where my username came from...
ninjadanslarbretabar
ninja dans l'arbre tabarnak
in english its (im french canadian)
ninja in the three dammit !
ninja
(oh, its also excellent for restless leg syndrome )
ive spend 10 year of my life in depression,
effexor and risperdal didn't work
working out did work, usually its always great to exercise more
and then i started smoking a small joint before jogging, i did that for 3 year...
it made me realize how good it was as a antidepressant
but like lolitsjohn said :
for me i think it did work by breaking my old habit of circular depress thought, when stone you think with a different rhythm of thought, so i had a place to think outside of depression, and jogging is something good, its make you want to be healthy, well it did on me, so i was breaking my habit of bad thought to create a new place for good thought, or something like that...
i was using small quantity, enough to feel the fuzz, usually it was 1 or 3 small joint, after jogging i was fighting my favorite tree, doing some martial art stuff against it ...
thats actually where my username came from...
ninjadanslarbretabar
ninja dans l'arbre tabarnak
in english its (im french canadian)
ninja in the three dammit !
ninja
(oh, its also excellent for restless leg syndrome )
TheDrizzle
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the best comment made is that highs are too subjective. it could easily make things much worse look at the anxiety threads. i just feel like even though this worked for some of you it could easily mislead someone to smoke a bunch of weed during a time of bad depression or great distress and make things worse. for some people this could really lead to worse problems, marijuana has many different properties, depressant, stimulant, and most importantly its a psychedelic so it could really throw you into a world of hurt you weren't expecting. its not fair to say that this will work for everyone or won't because all of our bodies chemistries are different and set and setting have a great deal of effect on your high also. i guess what i am trying to say is that definitively you cannot say that marijuana is an effective anti-depressant, and doing so could unfaily make things worse for some people.
Not a good solution. I found when i was ON antidepressants it helped lots, cause i still got down time to time. once i got off those nasty little buggers, shit hit the fan when i smoked pot.
everytime i smoked it was like going back to when i was first diagnosed. Only in very rare circumstances can i have an enjoyable time now, and i used to smoke weed upward of 3 times a day for years. I now receive complete opposite effects.
i can only smoke pleasurable if im drunk or on a benzodiazepine.
Self medication is not a good idea, you cant run forever people. face your problems or they'll just catch up and be far worse than they were originally. stick to recreational use!
plus when i used to smoke habitually when i wasn't high i definitely didn't feel not depressed. a true antidepressant should level you out without impairing you in a noticeable way. sure ssri's amd other meds make you feel different, but i never sat on my couch thinking wow iam fuuuucked up...and dammmnnn im hungry!
everytime i smoked it was like going back to when i was first diagnosed. Only in very rare circumstances can i have an enjoyable time now, and i used to smoke weed upward of 3 times a day for years. I now receive complete opposite effects.
i can only smoke pleasurable if im drunk or on a benzodiazepine.
Self medication is not a good idea, you cant run forever people. face your problems or they'll just catch up and be far worse than they were originally. stick to recreational use!
plus when i used to smoke habitually when i wasn't high i definitely didn't feel not depressed. a true antidepressant should level you out without impairing you in a noticeable way. sure ssri's amd other meds make you feel different, but i never sat on my couch thinking wow iam fuuuucked up...and dammmnnn im hungry!
Crocop's Left Leg
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blazing ALWAYS makes me happy. even if before i smoke i think to myself ''maybe it wont put me in a good mood'' it ALWAYS does :D
but dont rely on any drugs to cheer you up
but dont rely on any drugs to cheer you up
dementedgoat
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yea but is heartbreak and bullshit the kinda activities and feeling you want associated with this miriacle plant in all its sticky icky beatiful smelly green goodness.... and yea its a GREAT anti-depressant but harm reduction and all you know, moderation.... bloody things... mr. rabbit....
FizzLovesLife
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It varies from person to person really.
I smoked frequently for years and never had any difficulties, nothing but good times. Then life got tough all at once,major life change, friends moved away, got dumped, etc.. in the span of a month. Just had no goal or drive in life, so I just kept smoking all day, everyday. Wake til sleep, before class, before work. Low and behold I started to think that just made things worse. I became even more anti-social, was anxious in almost any social situation, stopped going to class, afraid to speak to anyone, and started having panic attacks.
So why not just stop if it was terrible?
Because it did provide temporary relief. It wasn't just two straight months of wanting to die. I'd get great laughs from watching Sean Connery's SNL Celebrity Jeopary on Youtube over and over or sit on my roof and smile at the sun, but a vast majority of the time my life sucked and I was doing nothing to fix it. Just get high from dawn til dusk, try to sleep(couldn't really do that, ya amazing), then wake up and repeat. But that first hit of the day always brought me a good hour.
And that was the problem. Everyday was just a vicious cycle of getting high and coming down over and over 5, 6, 7 times; never achieving that feeling I got from the first one of the day, getting lazier as the day went on and time just drifted by. I did nothing to improve my life or give myself a sense of a brighter future.
Did smoking weed cause this? No.
Did it procrastinate me making changes? Good chance.
Only break came when threw my phone off the wall in an unrelated matter and lost my dealers number, therefore cutting my supply. I went a week feeling like absolute trash with no substances in me, but was able to make my life a bit better eventually. Started talking to old friends, met new people through them, convinced my professors to give me a second chance, and am happily chasing girls again.
Have I given up smoking completely? Hell no.
But I have made some guidelines for myself because smoking can still flair up massive anxiety(the close cousin of depression) for me and has occasion.
So I just gave myself these two things.
1. Don't smoke before dark, I don't set a time, that's just too controlling
2. Don't smoke alone, unless it's right before bed.
So I'm either out partying with friends, getting drunk, or sleeping when I come down. It's been pretty easy to follow them and I have a good time when I get high. I break them sometimes and remember why I used them because it's just not fun and I panic.
But the moral of my story and to answer the OP, Is weed a good anti-depressant? Depends.
If you got ridden by your boss at work, had a fender bender, lost a little money, dog died, then, Yes. A nice joint will take those things right out of your mind and let you enjoy life and reflect on the good times.
But If you're depressed because you're losing your house, failing out of school, unemployed while broke, constantly feel alone, or in massive debt, then you need to make some serious life changes. And the chances are for most people, getting high all day will not motivate you to make those move because typically weed makes one lazy, it does me. (I say most people because all drugs work differently on everyone, some people are go-getters when stoned, power to them)
"Anti-Depressant" is a misleading name.(I hate SSRIs btw; they make me a walking cadaver) Depression isn't solved by any drug, but they can help motivate people to take the steps to make their life something enjoyable, whatever that may be, when otherwise they would just overwhelmed by depression. A younger, less wise, version of myself had to learn that the hard way, but am glad I did. I like to get to do drugs, get drunk, and socialize(it's fun and makes life less boring.)
Just realize it won't make your problems go away if you're really feeling depressed for a while. Also don't think it's bad to smoke all day either(Hell if I was rich, had my own island, and a sweet girl, I'd chain the bong around my neck) You just need to find your own balance of things to make you happy. It may be weed, it may not be. For me it's amphetamines in the day and alcohol at night; I'm alert, focused, and productive in the day, then get dumb and numb at night. That's my bliss and I'm having a great time.
Hope this helps.
I smoked frequently for years and never had any difficulties, nothing but good times. Then life got tough all at once,major life change, friends moved away, got dumped, etc.. in the span of a month. Just had no goal or drive in life, so I just kept smoking all day, everyday. Wake til sleep, before class, before work. Low and behold I started to think that just made things worse. I became even more anti-social, was anxious in almost any social situation, stopped going to class, afraid to speak to anyone, and started having panic attacks.
So why not just stop if it was terrible?
Because it did provide temporary relief. It wasn't just two straight months of wanting to die. I'd get great laughs from watching Sean Connery's SNL Celebrity Jeopary on Youtube over and over or sit on my roof and smile at the sun, but a vast majority of the time my life sucked and I was doing nothing to fix it. Just get high from dawn til dusk, try to sleep(couldn't really do that, ya amazing), then wake up and repeat. But that first hit of the day always brought me a good hour.
And that was the problem. Everyday was just a vicious cycle of getting high and coming down over and over 5, 6, 7 times; never achieving that feeling I got from the first one of the day, getting lazier as the day went on and time just drifted by. I did nothing to improve my life or give myself a sense of a brighter future.
Did smoking weed cause this? No.
Did it procrastinate me making changes? Good chance.
Only break came when threw my phone off the wall in an unrelated matter and lost my dealers number, therefore cutting my supply. I went a week feeling like absolute trash with no substances in me, but was able to make my life a bit better eventually. Started talking to old friends, met new people through them, convinced my professors to give me a second chance, and am happily chasing girls again.
Have I given up smoking completely? Hell no.
But I have made some guidelines for myself because smoking can still flair up massive anxiety(the close cousin of depression) for me and has occasion.
So I just gave myself these two things.
1. Don't smoke before dark, I don't set a time, that's just too controlling
2. Don't smoke alone, unless it's right before bed.
So I'm either out partying with friends, getting drunk, or sleeping when I come down. It's been pretty easy to follow them and I have a good time when I get high. I break them sometimes and remember why I used them because it's just not fun and I panic.
But the moral of my story and to answer the OP, Is weed a good anti-depressant? Depends.
If you got ridden by your boss at work, had a fender bender, lost a little money, dog died, then, Yes. A nice joint will take those things right out of your mind and let you enjoy life and reflect on the good times.
But If you're depressed because you're losing your house, failing out of school, unemployed while broke, constantly feel alone, or in massive debt, then you need to make some serious life changes. And the chances are for most people, getting high all day will not motivate you to make those move because typically weed makes one lazy, it does me. (I say most people because all drugs work differently on everyone, some people are go-getters when stoned, power to them)
"Anti-Depressant" is a misleading name.(I hate SSRIs btw; they make me a walking cadaver) Depression isn't solved by any drug, but they can help motivate people to take the steps to make their life something enjoyable, whatever that may be, when otherwise they would just overwhelmed by depression. A younger, less wise, version of myself had to learn that the hard way, but am glad I did. I like to get to do drugs, get drunk, and socialize(it's fun and makes life less boring.)
Just realize it won't make your problems go away if you're really feeling depressed for a while. Also don't think it's bad to smoke all day either(Hell if I was rich, had my own island, and a sweet girl, I'd chain the bong around my neck) You just need to find your own balance of things to make you happy. It may be weed, it may not be. For me it's amphetamines in the day and alcohol at night; I'm alert, focused, and productive in the day, then get dumb and numb at night. That's my bliss and I'm having a great time.
Hope this helps.
Weed is not a good antidepressent.
You really shouldn't try to use it FOR that, for depression....
Antidepressents have a specific way they act, and act that way everytime.
Weed makes your mind/mood manifest.
It IS a subjective high, but you could get easily get anxiety if you smoked on the wrong mindset.
It depends on the user, the type of the weed(giving the general high from feeling more intoxicant(more calming, stoned) or sensory/stimulant(can be euphoric and trippy), and how much smoked.
Acid gives me a mood lift everytime I take it, I get more anxiety from weed.
My friend gets anxiety from acid everytime, but gets no anxiety from weed.
Person to person, weed is not an antidepressant.
You really shouldn't try to use it FOR that, for depression....
Antidepressents have a specific way they act, and act that way everytime.
Weed makes your mind/mood manifest.
It IS a subjective high, but you could get easily get anxiety if you smoked on the wrong mindset.
It depends on the user, the type of the weed(giving the general high from feeling more intoxicant(more calming, stoned) or sensory/stimulant(can be euphoric and trippy), and how much smoked.
Acid gives me a mood lift everytime I take it, I get more anxiety from weed.
My friend gets anxiety from acid everytime, but gets no anxiety from weed.
Person to person, weed is not an antidepressant.
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Plese don't use cannabis as modern medicine, the main reason I say this is because cannabis has variable amounts of drugs in it. Unlike pharmaceuticals cannabis is not standard at all! Whereas SSRIs have equal doses of the same chemical everytime you eat them; there is no way you're going to know the dose of whatever drug you're getting from cannabis. Furthermore you are having dozens of active cannabis chemicals entering your lungs––at different ratios––everytime you pick up your 'water bong' (or cannabis cigar, whatever you fancy), fill it with illicit drugs, combust the illicit drugs, and give it a toot.
By the way, inhaling drugs is not the method to take antidepressant medicine.
By the way, inhaling drugs is not the method to take antidepressant medicine.
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"Freshly Baked"
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Before I smoked weed, i was completely lost depressed, and gone. I felt like an old man with nothing to live for, women wouldn't look at me, no one wanted me to talk to them, I was afraid to say a word all the time. Until i started smoking.
I smoked daily for about half a year (4-5 bowls every day) and it did wonders for my confidence, self'esteem, people skills, everything. I felt like I knew who i was finally. But thanks to a legal scare and impending new job, I quit. I quit cold turkey for a week, and then I found out that I quit way too soon. Im not gonna be 18 til june, and my court date (which might not even include me, my sister just ratted on me in court and called me a "Drug Addict" (she's you're stereotypical useless leech tweaker.) isn't even until june 20th
That was a crazy 8 days. I felt more depressed than ever, felt so bad, i went to cocaine (Even when I was doing it. People told me i was dumb). I also had about 14 warm beers that night. SO after walking home in the middle of the night with the worst imaginable coke comedown, and an extremely bad hangover, i laid in my bed for 3+ hours crying, cussing, etc With absoluely no weed to console me. Thanks to that episode I've sworn off coke for forever (which guarantees at least half a decade of not using it.) And I started thinking about what my mom has told me.. Talking to a doctor about my mental health. I did, and the doctor Dignosed me with Major Depressive, Social Anxiety, and ADHD. She perscribed the drug that every druggie ends up being put on (Wellbutrin) and seroquels, which are one of my favorite pills to take. the seroquels help me get to sleep, mellow me out, and make me feel good, but i still feel empty.
I started smoking again recently, and i feel back to normal. The Wellbutrin hasn't taken efect yet, but I can honestly say Weed does what so many drugs haven't. MADE ME FEEL HAPPY WITH MYSELF. I think as long as i live, weed will always be the best medicine for me.
Sorry for babbling.
I smoked daily for about half a year (4-5 bowls every day) and it did wonders for my confidence, self'esteem, people skills, everything. I felt like I knew who i was finally. But thanks to a legal scare and impending new job, I quit. I quit cold turkey for a week, and then I found out that I quit way too soon. Im not gonna be 18 til june, and my court date (which might not even include me, my sister just ratted on me in court and called me a "Drug Addict" (she's you're stereotypical useless leech tweaker.) isn't even until june 20th
That was a crazy 8 days. I felt more depressed than ever, felt so bad, i went to cocaine (Even when I was doing it. People told me i was dumb). I also had about 14 warm beers that night. SO after walking home in the middle of the night with the worst imaginable coke comedown, and an extremely bad hangover, i laid in my bed for 3+ hours crying, cussing, etc With absoluely no weed to console me. Thanks to that episode I've sworn off coke for forever (which guarantees at least half a decade of not using it.) And I started thinking about what my mom has told me.. Talking to a doctor about my mental health. I did, and the doctor Dignosed me with Major Depressive, Social Anxiety, and ADHD. She perscribed the drug that every druggie ends up being put on (Wellbutrin) and seroquels, which are one of my favorite pills to take. the seroquels help me get to sleep, mellow me out, and make me feel good, but i still feel empty.
I started smoking again recently, and i feel back to normal. The Wellbutrin hasn't taken efect yet, but I can honestly say Weed does what so many drugs haven't. MADE ME FEEL HAPPY WITH MYSELF. I think as long as i live, weed will always be the best medicine for me.
Sorry for babbling.
ninjadanslarbretabar
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Adrenochrome said:
so if you have a big batch of green dragon (like i do...) does any of your argument still make sense ?
does that mean i can call it "modern medicine" then ?
