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MAOI plus stim combo (shock horror)

seems as if someone who is going through the waves of experimenting with drugs to cope w/ a mental illness would sense things that could be missed by someone not taking acount of ever feeling or stimulation they recieve from their body.

self induced, with a hint of ritalin
 
There is nothing subjective here, I have my own sphgmo and messure my bp regularly. On one occasion in was 80/50 and I am sure it has dropped lower. Never once got higher than say 170/105 but i did notice it made my bp fluctuate wildly.

As for the LSD there seems to be alot of conflicting information. Some say it totally inhibits it others potentiates it.
MAOI is ment to potentiate MDMA also, I did try this and while there was an interaction it certainly wasn't pleasent, meth was ok but nothing like ritalin which is sublime.
 
streetsurfer, no mystery, ya developed a selegeline tolerance, and cutting back down to 10mg p/d will have resulted in noted hypo vs hypertension when scrutinised after chocolatising. theobromine is a weird one.

selegeline will most likely not negate but rather potentiate the LSD and is not a combo which i would approach haphazardly, as thinking of potentially negative outcomes while on LSD is bound to induce same.
 
^ That's what I geussed, but I don't know.

Still, MAOIs plus tryptamines... I think a potentiation is likely... or at least, not a big inhibition. SSRIs give you a pretty good reduction in strength...

*shrug*

Just my opinion.
 
fastandbulbous said:
^ Eh? It's more likely that they preceive things that aren't there than pick up on subtleties that 'normal people' would miss
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indeed, i worded it incorrectly. I meant they would percive things such as increased hearbeat or decreased breathing as abnormal, and make an assumtion.

Like me, i suffer from panic attacks, and i always feel as if something is failing in my body, even though its not, i hope

..but he claims he's got it under control so not to worry.
 
i feel it neccessary to report my near-death experience with Selegiline + Blue Whale (dolphin?) MDMA pill.

Recently ive been manic as fuck lately on 10-15mg daily of Selegiline (with occassional 5mg or so ritalin which is amazing and occassional smoking of meth, which provides NO rush of euphoria w/ selegiline)

I would really like to apologize to all the mods i fucked with and argued with in all my MAOI selegiline etc posts. Especially Fastandbulbous. Im truly sorry man... I was in such a mania that in retrospect I look back on it and think "fuck, i was basically psychotic". Selegiline is one hell of a drug. 20mg produces euphoria and mania stronger than meth has ever proviced... or any drug besides my first few times with Adderall (heaven). Im amazed it isnt abused or schedueled.... its one HELL of a fucking amphetamine (i know, its not.... but look at its molecular structure... almost identical to methamphetamine, dopamine, and ritalin)


Anyways I experienced extreme hypertensive crisis and was hyperventilating more than i ever have. Ontop of all this i was EXTREMELY spacially fucked up. I dont doubt i would of died if i didnt have Halcion or some kind of benzo to stop it.. which i did.

BE CAREFUL WITH SELEGILINE.... ITS NO FUCKING JOKE

im assuming the pill i took contained fentanyl or some other drug that caused this? or maybe just the MDMA. I can take unlimited ammounts of meth with selegiline so i dont really know.
 
^ Glad to hear you are OK.

That's the problem with MAOI combo's.. there is no comedown for hours/days - and then when it comes it is only from sheer exhaustion. (not talking from personal experience, that stuff scares the bejeazus out of me).

Life isn't only about stimulation, it's also about relaxation and just enjoyment :)
 
^ Yeah, that's what we said at the time man... I suspect it was the MDMA, nothing to do with opiates.
 
streetsurfer, no mystery, ya developed a selegeline tolerance, and cutting back down to 10mg p/d will have resulted in noted hypo vs hypertension when scrutinised after chocolatising. theobromine is a weird one.

selegeline will most likely not negate but rather potentiate the LSD and is not a combo which i would approach haphazardly, as thinking of potentially negative outcomes while on LSD is bound to induce same.
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Actually it is well documented that high Dopamine levels cause hypotension.

I still do (judge me how you will) play with this combo but it has never come close to how it was in the begining. It is strange that meth has no/little potentiating effects when combined with selegiline (in fact I think it detracts from the meth euphoria) but ritalin blows ur head off!

So as it stands my understanding is that it soaks your synapses in dopamine. The ritalin stops it being reabsorbed and the selegiline stops it being broken down.
So
Is the hazard in Question just high levels of Dopamine in the Brain?

I have continued on with my "pharmaquazihuasca" combos albiet with the wisdom of some scary experiences behind me and literally thousands of hours scouring pubmed.

Treatments like this (while undoubtedly improving my quality of life hugely) are only adressing the symtoms, not the cause of the problem and at risk of hijacking this thread, I belive I will start a new one.

Oh and as a post script, where the dolphins related to the blue ladys that were going around recently? There is something very non MDMA about their effect. They were quite simply the best pill I have ever had yet, no mankyness, very mild comedown...... my feeling was there was something else at play.....maybe selegiline?
 
Hypotension (esp. orthostatic) is listed as a possible symptom of selegiline, as it is for all MAOIs
 
I still do (judge me how you will) play with this combo but it has never come close to how it was in the begining. It is strange that meth has no/little potentiating effects when combined with selegiline (in fact I think it detracts from the meth euphoria) but ritalin blows ur head off!
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ILL 2nd THAT. Jesus F Christ is this true. I do agree that it detracts from the meth high in that it totally nullifies the initial rush.

Ritalin on the other hand becomes the most potent stimulant known to man in combo with selegiline. Its actually been a while since i did this combo because its so fucking easy to take too much ritalin and "blow your head off" sending me into manic psychosis that I have been avoiding it.

The whole Ritalin + Selegiline combo thing fascinates the hell out of me.
Feelings on the combo? For me selegiline already floods my brain with so much dopamine that it feels like the ritalin is unneccessary... but ive read other reports of people loving and becoming extremely addicted to this combo.
 
o BTW... I recently had a nasty run-in with methylaminamorex + Selegiline. Quickly overdid it and I had parkinsons-like symptoms for weeks after the experience. U do the math... strong DARI + selegiline.
I unfortunitely aquired this stuff thinking it was something else.
 
Ok what about ephedrine or other the counter fat burner stimulant would that be more effective if sellgine be taken alongside?
 
As the one who started this thread listen up all would be psychonaughts.
This is dangerous shit, I thought I was going to die several times but I couldn't stop using it, also it fucks with your memory BIG TIME and you forget that this morning you thought you were going to die.

It puts you into a mania not a high, you think you are mr insightfull but it is all shit.

Since I have stopped it I have noticed a big imparement in my executive funtion capacity, I can intelectualise fine, but can't relate with the world and I am suffering terribble depression which I fear could be taking on a psychotic edge.

If you are taking it, nothing I say here will matter cos you think your god, when you build up a tolerence come back and read it, but by then maybe you will have fucked ur brains.

If you are considering taking it, I started thins because I was suffering from severe depression, it was relief.....for a while. How much of how I am now is naytural progression and how much is damage caused by abusing this combo I don't know, will I recover, I don't know.
But massively activating your Cerebral cortex like this has to have some rebound effect, and I can't help but think of what happens to chronicly manic psych patients when they get old....... Google up "Burnt out manic depressive or schizo" Same mechanism at work as far as I can tell

Think about it
 
I tried the exact same combo, but in smaller doses,with exactly the same results, only things got out of hand very quickly for me with regard to the maniacal aspect of my thinking.

Bear in mind that I am a diagnosed schizophrenic, but not bipolar.

I also tried the selegeline with LSD/shrooms and yes, it potentiates the trip dramatically -- to the point I panicked.
 
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