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Benzos Many types of benzos.. can someone explain the diff between the main ones?

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I am currently taking alprazolam for anxiety.


Now ive heard of klonopin, Valium, and the other comon ones. i've tried researching the difference between them but i can't really understand exactly how the effects are different from one another.

could someone sum it up for me?
 
There are SO many threads that have answers to this question here. You should try the search bar. If you don't find anything by the end of the day (or, in an hour)...ask again.
 
The Ashton Manual is better than the FAQ IMHO. Also just handling out links is 'a bit lazy' as well. :P

It's understandable that Benzodiazepines are confusing and I would try to explain it all but it would take me ages and lots of text which I don't mind typing but the time is an issue as well as being not sober ATM. :)

I might compile all bits & pieces out there into a FAQ tonight, would be a nice idea describing it in less 'technical' terms like metabolites / receptors / cross-tolerance / etc. ;)

http://www.erowid.org/ would be a good Benzo information place as well BTW.

-- Peace o/
 
Dont they make them according to what receptor they want to target? A1 A2 and A3 receptors? I think they make them to target certain receptors better than others. So some will have more of a anti-convulsant action, then a anti-anxiety, or more of a sedative effect, then a amnesia effect? Im pretty sure thats why there are so many. Every one of those receptors is responsible for different things.

All I know is midazolam is the best because its soluble in water=D
 
I don't know all the details but here is something about Benzodiazepine pharmacology I had stored on my HD, sorry if the readability is messed up but just got a new 27" monitor. =D

Among the allosteric receptor sites the sites for the benzodiazepines (Bz) are of prime importance since these ligands have been employed widely as anxiolytic/anticonvulsant agents since the 1960s. Studies of molecular biology have suggested that the GABAA/BzR complex is a heteropentameric protein polymer constituted principally from α, β and γ subunits. At present, a total of 16 subunits (6α, 4β, 3γ, 1δ, and 2ρ) have been isolated and identified from the CNS (15 of these have been found in the mammaliam CNS). Recent studies of recombinant GABAA/BzR have shown that the presence of α, β and γ subunits is necessary to constitute a fully functional benzodiazepine receptor/GABA/chloride ion channel which mimics the pharmacological, biochemical, and electrophysiological properties of a native receptor. From recombinant studies it appears that receptors constructed from αx, β2, and γ2 subunits most closely resemble the pharmacological profile of a native BzR substypes obtained from mammalian tissues:

• Receptor subtypes comprised of an α1 with β2γ2 subunits resembling the activity of the classical Bz-1 receptor subtype and found in the cerebellum (and elsewhere).

• Receptor substypes comprised of α2-, α3- or α5β2γ2 subunits mimic the activity of the Bz-2 recptor that is found principally in the cortex, hippocampus, and spinal cord.

• The Bz-3 receptors, constitute the "peripheral" receptors since they have been identified in the brain as well as in a wide range of peripheral tissues; their subcellular location has been reported to be mainly mitochondrial, and hence, this receptor is also termed "mitochondrial benzodiazepine receptor". Although the structure and parmacological role of the BZ3 receptors remains to be fully clarified, some evidence indicates their involvement in important cellular functions such as the production of neurosteroids.

-- Jack DeRuiter, Principles of Drug Action 2, Fall 2004

-- Peace o/
 
The differences are mainly how long they last and how quickly they take effect.

Generally a benzo that takes effect more quickly and lasts less time (like xanax) will produce more of a subjective feeling of pleasure.
 
^ I agree with the effects coming more quickly, but I think the duration has little to do with the subjective feeling of pleasure. As for the effects coming more quickly, it depends on the form of the drug (best: IV, then in that order: sublingual, plugging/oral drops, oral capsules, oral tablets).

For instance (sorry for those used to my rant =D), oral drops of clonazepam take effect very quickly, hence the rapid sensation of calmness and to a certain extent, pleasure. But clonazepam tabs are another story, they take a long time to kick in unless you take them sublingually.
 
you're right that its mostly more rapid onset that leads to more feelings of pleasure, but the rapid onset is usually also associated with a shorter duration of action. Most drugs of abuse (meth is a notable exception) have very short half lives leading to repeated administrations...and even with meth you get the repeat administration thing.
 
^ It's true, for instance IVing or smoking a drug leads to a strong rush but the duration of action is shorter than the same drug ingested, chewed or plugged. Taking a benzo sublingually leads to the same pattern: it takes effect quickly but has a shorter duration than if ingested.
 
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