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Mental Health Mania

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idi0tboy

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I know theres some smart folk here so -

I'm wide awake it's 1am, I've been up since 9am, taken 10mg Olanzipine, 25mg valium, 15mg Mirtazapine + a few joints. Two of these are unprescribed and I vaguely woner if one is counertactive

This isn't unusual I can go through the night like this quite regularly nothing will get me off to sleep except going through to the next night. This has been going on weeks.

Note my Dr is treating me for signs of mania but theres no diagnosis, I have gone to him with HPPD issues recently (20 years worth so I'm used to sleeping with that). I've just never experienced

Would this be symptomatic of mania, Its cost me a fortune in weed to keep me on one task at a time at the moment!!!:?
 
IDK what to tell you.....weed makes me hypermanic and psychotic....Um, have you had euphoric highs...and deep depression maybe not at the same time or maybe at the same time. I have Bipolar with psychotic features....and well the sleep isse could be mania....Have you done any speed or stim's?
 
Could be the beginnings of mania, I can sleep somewhat when I'm manic...Do you feel energized and ready to take on the world with an inflated sense of self? cuz thats what pure mania feels like!
 
Manic sleeping problems are different from insomnia in many ways:
With insomnia you’re tired, you want to sleep, you toss and turn, you worry about how worn out you will be in the morning and you often want medication relief.

With euphoric mania, you want to stay up, you’re wide awake and doing something creative. You have unlimited energy, a racing mind, and rapid body movements. You have no desire to get in bed and sleeping feels like a total waste of time. When the euphoria gets too high, it takes a lot of psychiatric medication to get to sleep (and you definitely don’t want to take them and wreck your buzz!) and there is a chance you will be wide awake and even more manic the next day…….
 
I'd swear I replied, nevermind, On Thursday I was up 48 hours straight, I just started a new blog I've been meaning to do for months, my flat has gone from untidy hovel where I couldn't be arsed to even put sheets on my bed to tidy homely and clean, I've been out tonight to see a punk band its just about 3am and I'm wondering what I can get done before I get to bed.

Nothing like crowd sourcing a 2nd opinion on your Dr.... Whats interesting is somewhere theres research on HPPD and Risperidone (bear in mind I've just been prescribed Olanzapine another anti psychotic) and all of a sudden my slight manic edge has gone apeshit!!!
 
It could be mania, it's not necessarily. I go without sleep for 2-3 days in a row pretty regularly (not drug related, that doesn't count) because of a nerve issue that just stops me from sleeping. Which I doubt is what you have, but just to say it really could be a number of things. I also know a number of people, including myself, that just happen to get very creative and productive at night for no apparent reason.
Maybe it might be useful to see a psychiatrist and get a real diagnosis? (I'm assuming your current doctor isn't a shrink?)
 
Maybe it might be useful to see a psychiatrist and get a real diagnosis? (I'm assuming your current doctor isn't a shrink?)
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He kinda is I believe its one of his specialisms (as far as general practitioners go) I believe he was attached to various drugs and homeless servicesprior to 'general practice'.


I agree entirely I'm 'crowdsourcing' from informed individuals for info, thoughts and some input. I'm waiting to hear when I get to see a psych currently to discuss the HPPD. Remember opening up about this is new so I'm kinda sketchy!! :)
 
If he's a GP he's definitely not a psychiatrist. Could you ask him about a referral maybe? It's helpful to ask around on BL but if you're indeed actually manic you should probably get proper treatment for it! :)
 
Sorry after 'I entirely agree' it should say - The referrals been done just waiting on date!!
 
^Well....like Pagey said, there's a lot of people that like to stay up late at night or even for a few days at a time that aren't bi-polar....

And like RD mentioned, Mania and insomnia aren't the same thing either....

True Mania feels like an intense stimulsant high in a lot of ways, it can be great in the short term but eventually it can cause psychosis if it goes in too long....

I kind of enjoy mania, but it's made me psychotic a few times and I don't wanna go there again...I kind of embarassed myself a few times while I was manic because I lost my ability to use good judgement....I never did anything dangerous, but some people do end up engaging in some risky behaviors while manic....

You should talk to a doctor, but there's doctors out there who seem to diagnose everybody with bi-polar disorder! I respect the title and the education one has to go through to become a doctor, but it's amazing how clueless some of them are....

seeing more than one doctor and really detailing what you're experiencing seems to be the best thing IME...
 
BlueHues said:
True Mania feels like an intense stimulsant high in a lot of ways, it can be great in the short term but eventually it can cause psychosis if it goes in too long....

I kind of enjoy mania, but it's made me psychotic a few times and I don't wanna go there again...I kind of embarassed myself a few times while I was manic because I lost my ability to use good judgement....I never did anything dangerous, but some people do end up engaging in some risky behaviors while manic....
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Ummmm yes theres been a bit of ummmmm 'risky' luckily I managed to reign it all in safely on this occasion.

Anyway long story short.... He addedd Halperidol into my mix. Still doing the "occasional valium" a few to many today but I needed controllable sleep to get stuff done. Eat, nap try and have a vague pretence at life (actually all this aside life's pretty fucking good right now).
 
IMHO, controlled hypomania ~=~ genius. But, at the same time, hard to balance. Not to imply all of advanced intelligence are using hypomania as a means for their acheivements, but definately a big factor to consider imho.

Probably related to the correlation between ingelligence/mental disorders that exists, and i for one can admit hypomania can be incredibly useful, but just like drug induced hypomania, hard to keep in check/balance. Once again boiling down to my conclusions about intelligence and its correlation with mental disorders, specifically manic depression, and mania/psychosis.

Slippery slope either way, hypomania that is, drug induced/natural from cognitive disorders. I'd go so far as to say addictive ime. But uselful if used properly.
 
I know how you feel. When i get manic no amount of alcohol seems to get me to sleep unless I combine it with pharms like seroquel. I hate it really because not sleeping will actually make me more manic. But if i stress about not sleeping I will also get more manic. Its a vicious cycle. There isn't much of a good side to mania because it can lead to some stupid shit.
 
daytryptr said:
IMHO, controlled hypomania ~=~ genius.
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So true. I live for it. =D

It reminds me in some ways of being on a low dose of methamphetamine, everything is just so easy, and optimism limitless. When you learn things you can see it from multiple angles, and have the drive to connect heaps of ideas together at once.

But when you crash all you can do is look at a problem with a blank stare :\
 
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