Manchester Arena explosion: 22 killed in 'terror attack by suicide bomber' at concer

[Somerandomdude]

What point?
I think you're getting defensive about "race" guilt when it is nothing of the sort. History is full of examples of people doing cruel and unpleasant things.
To claim that there is some "anti-white" bias in history is laughable. We're talking about history that included actual invasion, real genocide and all manner of dark things.

If you're concerned that white people's atrocities are so well documented in children's history books, you might want to consider why that is.
Tip: it's got nothing to do with some campaign on behalf of the "hard left" to make white kids hate their heritage.

On my phone so won't go into much detail, but you know full well what I'm talking about. I'm not trying to deny the Terrible things done by various European powers, but those bad things are obviously accentuated and emphasised in the teaching of history to today's kids.

Hard leftist ideology influences teaching of history is many ways. In academia and the media.

Kind of like how when Castro died, we had the ABC bringing in crackpot commie academics eulogising him as some kind of Saint, when in reality he was a mass murdering dictator who stifles freedom of expression and sent gays to prison camps.

He also lived in a mansion and ate caviar and smoked cigars while people starved. Real champion of poor workers that guy was. What a joke.

 

[spacejunk]

On my phone so won't go into much detail, but you know full well what I'm talking about. I'm not trying to deny the Terrible things done by various European powers, but those bad things are obviously accentuated and emphasised in the teaching of history to today's kids.

i'm afraid i have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
is this one of those reactionary "i say what everyone else thinks but are too afraid to say it" dogwhistles?
the damage done to humanity by colonialism cannot be understated - it is the cause of more war, conflict and unnecessary suffering than anything else i can think of.

i don't see world history as some racial power struggle. sorry, i completely disagree with your theory and placing the blame on "hard leftist ideology". from the tropes you seem to keep riffing on, i imagine you've not had much meaningful contact with real leftist ideology, and instead use it to scapegoat things you dislike culturally.

Hard leftist ideology influences teaching of history is many ways. In academia and the media.

if you're trying to tell me that european or white people generally are treated unfairly by historical discourse, generally speaking, i'd have to disagree.
of course, there are conservative historians, radical historians and those who do their best to avoid such categorisation, and students of history tend to be aware of this.
as for 'hard left' media, i don't know where you are finding that. certainly not anywhere near the mainstream in contemporary australia. socialists selling Red Flag on street corners?
the ABC board of directors is filled with conservatives from the IPA. hardly "hard leftist" ideologues lol.

please try not to go completely off-topic.

i don't know what your ranting about fidel castro has to do with the manchester bombing or ISIS. 8)

 

[Somerandomdude]

i'm afraid i have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
is this one of those reactionary "i say what everyone else thinks but are too afraid to say it" dogwhistles?
the damage done to humanity by colonialism cannot be understated - it is the cause of more war, conflict and unnecessary suffering than anything else i can think of.

i don't see world history as some racial power struggle. sorry, i completely disagree with your theory and placing the blame on "hard leftist ideology". from the tropes you seem to keep riffing on, i imagine you've not had much meaningful contact with real leftist ideology, and instead use it to scapegoat things you dislike culturally.



if you're trying to tell me that european or white people generally are treated unfairly by historical discourse, generally speaking, i'd have to disagree.
of course, there are conservative historians, radical historians and those who do their best to avoid such categorisation, and students of history tend to be aware of this.
as for 'hard left' media, i don't know where you are finding that. socialists selling Red Flag on street corners?
the ABC board of directors is filled with conservatives from the IPA. hardly "hard leftist" ideologues lol.

please try not to go completely off-topic. i don't know what your ranting about fidel castro has to do with the manchester bombing or ISIS.

Nice job of not addressing the point I made.

 

[spacejunk]

the point?
that's what i was referring to when i said "i'm afraid i have absolutely no idea what you're talking about".

 

[Somerandomdude]

But fair call on getting off topic.

All I'll say regarding the ABC is- I don't know/ give a fk who is on their board. All I can judge them by is the way they portray the news and their commentary - and if you don't think it's far left than you are kidding yourself

 

[Somerandomdude]

With respect to Manchester- 90,000 people evacuated from a music festival in Deutschland today.

It won't be too long before another attack in europe, god forbid.

I just hope to god we can get the problem under control in Oz. Our police are doing an incredible job at foiling attacks (13 imminent ones foiled since September 2014)

 

[Somerandomdude]

The one foiled attack that for some reason sticks in my mind, involves two 16 year Olds arrested in October behind a Muslim prayer hall in Bankstown.

They were caught as they did their prayers and cleansing rituals before their planned attacks. They were in possession of a bayonet and excerpts from the quran.

Their plan was to abduct a member of the public, behead them, and stream it on Facebook live. Fucking Facebook live. They were going to do this while reading from the quran.

 

[Escher's Waterfall]

Again, your answer ignores the crazy things that religious zeal and a belief in paradise can drive someone to do.

I forgot to add, the aforementioned hard left infiltration of politics, media and academia has literally given rise to a generation of kids who grow up hating Western culture and beleiving that White people are inherently evil.

What you consider a weakness is our strength. Our culture is, and has constantly been challenged, especially in America, which is a nation of immigrants. Our culture is the equivalent of a species that lives on a vast landmass, with strong evolutionary pressure to adapt and survive.

Other cultures, more challenged, don't have the same evolutionary fitness.

We've aired our dirty laundry, and we're continuing to air it. The warts are getting filed off, leaving the organism healthier as a whole.

Your fear of religion doesn't bear out in reality. There's millions of Muslims in the west, and attacks are proportionately very rare. Even in the Middle East, the only place a caliphate has attempted to be established is a region already heavily destabilized by other wars - and even then, the inhabitants tend to endure it, not choose the religious wackjobs. And even in those destabilized regions, we're seeing competing ideologies - the fragile Iraqi democracy, the claims-to-want-democracy Syrian resistance, and the democratic and quite liberal Syrian Kurdistan, and whatever the Iraqi Kurds are up to (I believe they had a functioning democracy, competing political parties, and were taking territory away from ISIS last time I checked).

If Western ideology can expand in the Middle East, it's strong enough to survive.