Heya self admitted lurker here, ussualy use this site for research but I am after some opinions rather than facts.
Im scripted 25mg dex daily and am after ideas to manage the comedown better. I dont take it exactly as scripted, tend to take 25-50mg 4 or 5 days a week. Problem is even at these moderate doses i cant deal with the comedown. Doc scripted me clonindine .2mg a day which I find does very little.
Can get otc codeine here (cheaply too) and cwe aint exactly rocket science so 80-150mg of codeine has been the go, sometimes substituting 10-20mg oxy when i have it...After a few hours on stimulants with an empty stomach, tums, grapefruit juice, dxm .1mg clon and some doxy afterwards my comedown is turned into relative bliss...I would do this prob 5-6 days a week...Almost every day after dex, plus sometimes in the morning on my days off dex. (might just be 2 fortes and 2 panafen plus ~ 85mg)
9 months in and my opiate tolerance is remarkably steady, and I lasted a damn long time before noticing anything resembly opiate withdrawl but over the last month or two it has become an issue. I am well aware these are low doses and the withdrawl is mild but I would like to ensure it stays that way. I am also well aware dosage level is less relevent when it comes to addiction than dosage frequency and while my physical dependence is low the appearance of mild withdrawl (runny nose, poor mood) and my recognition of it as opiate withdrawl indicates physcological addiction.....Which I am much more concerned about than physical dependence at this point at least.
Anyway im 3 days opiate free and wont use again for another 3 days which should flush me out, but from then I think i need to limit opiates to 1-2 days a week at most. If i was using higher doses I would say even once a week could be too much..
I have access to a lot of clonindine and tramadol....I find neither that crash hot but better than nothing. Tramadol is of course a semi-opiate. Taking tramadol seems to aleviate mild withdrawl but for some reason when i take it instead of codeine/oxy i feel it doesnt "reset my withdrawl clock"...or it doesnt seem to at least....Any opinions on this?
I rarely get hold of benzos, ussualy temaz or diaz but of course they are close to as good as an opiate...Tolerance/withdrawl never been an issue with them as they are not common and dont think i have ever had them more than two days in a row.
Alcohol helps a lil but not enough...Also having an amphetamine hangover plus a alcohol hangover the next day sucks....Sucks enough to make me want opiates in the morning hahah which I am trying to avoid.
Weed i smoke anyway....Its nessesary at all times.
What other options do i have. In regards to a. managing opiate tolerance and b. other classes of substance that help with comedown?
Ive read speculation that lesser stimulants (caffeine, pseudoeff) can help but drinking coffee dont seem to help at all.
Kava Kava has proven to be harder to obtain than i thought but if i get feedback its good for comedowns I will get hold of some.
Melatonin, valerian and other mild herbal agents wouldnt cut it I dont think but im open to considering them if anyone has had any success with them.
Im scripted 25mg dex daily and am after ideas to manage the comedown better. I dont take it exactly as scripted, tend to take 25-50mg 4 or 5 days a week. Problem is even at these moderate doses i cant deal with the comedown. Doc scripted me clonindine .2mg a day which I find does very little.
Can get otc codeine here (cheaply too) and cwe aint exactly rocket science so 80-150mg of codeine has been the go, sometimes substituting 10-20mg oxy when i have it...After a few hours on stimulants with an empty stomach, tums, grapefruit juice, dxm .1mg clon and some doxy afterwards my comedown is turned into relative bliss...I would do this prob 5-6 days a week...Almost every day after dex, plus sometimes in the morning on my days off dex. (might just be 2 fortes and 2 panafen plus ~ 85mg)
9 months in and my opiate tolerance is remarkably steady, and I lasted a damn long time before noticing anything resembly opiate withdrawl but over the last month or two it has become an issue. I am well aware these are low doses and the withdrawl is mild but I would like to ensure it stays that way. I am also well aware dosage level is less relevent when it comes to addiction than dosage frequency and while my physical dependence is low the appearance of mild withdrawl (runny nose, poor mood) and my recognition of it as opiate withdrawl indicates physcological addiction.....Which I am much more concerned about than physical dependence at this point at least.
Anyway im 3 days opiate free and wont use again for another 3 days which should flush me out, but from then I think i need to limit opiates to 1-2 days a week at most. If i was using higher doses I would say even once a week could be too much..
I have access to a lot of clonindine and tramadol....I find neither that crash hot but better than nothing. Tramadol is of course a semi-opiate. Taking tramadol seems to aleviate mild withdrawl but for some reason when i take it instead of codeine/oxy i feel it doesnt "reset my withdrawl clock"...or it doesnt seem to at least....Any opinions on this?
I rarely get hold of benzos, ussualy temaz or diaz but of course they are close to as good as an opiate...Tolerance/withdrawl never been an issue with them as they are not common and dont think i have ever had them more than two days in a row.
Alcohol helps a lil but not enough...Also having an amphetamine hangover plus a alcohol hangover the next day sucks....Sucks enough to make me want opiates in the morning hahah which I am trying to avoid.
Weed i smoke anyway....Its nessesary at all times.
What other options do i have. In regards to a. managing opiate tolerance and b. other classes of substance that help with comedown?
Ive read speculation that lesser stimulants (caffeine, pseudoeff) can help but drinking coffee dont seem to help at all.
Kava Kava has proven to be harder to obtain than i thought but if i get feedback its good for comedowns I will get hold of some.
Melatonin, valerian and other mild herbal agents wouldnt cut it I dont think but im open to considering them if anyone has had any success with them.
