Making the most of it? (Oxycodone)

[bluntedskier]

Receiving about two dozen 30mg oxys today.... I have a high willpower and make a pact not to buy any for 1.5 months after this purchase. I will stick to that also without a doubt because the high I get off of seeing my bank account get fatter is greater than that of getting high for a couple hours.

Anyways.. My tolerance is somewhat moderate, not low and not high. I have never blown more than 45mg (a 30 and 1/2) at once.... although I probably could, I like oxy for being productive and not getting 'fucked up.' I haven't been doing them for that long in the first place, and never for very long continuous periods of time before I have a decent break. That being said, these are still going to fast. I can't deny that. I got my hands on some 40mg Opana recently, three of them... and I noticed that after I had finished these (took incredibly long for 3 pills) - that when I did Oxy again for the first time in like a month, that my tolerance was much higher! Watch out for Opana!! Blowing a 30 had much noticeably less of an effect than it had before the OPs. I want these to last all week if possible (I have to split them with my girlfriend, so gay)... Also I am prescribed 70mg Vyvanse to take (whenever I need it), and copious amounts of benzos that I have tapered myself amazingly down on, with 100mg of Zoloft that was prescribed to help anxiety and help me diminish terrible benzos.

I actually LOVE blowing oxy after taking "ADHD" stimulants - in my case vyvanse/d-amphetamine. Not too much or they do slightly cancel each other out. Just like half the amount I normally would take. And also (although for myself, Vyvanse does not have much of a "crash" at all due to its gradual metabolized ways) I find it better than taking any benzos or anything else - actually better than just taking the opiate alone - to take the oxy on the comedown of a stimulant because it takes away the "edge" like a benzo, but also just re-boosts me, since there is still very much a presence of the amphetamine in your system of course, even when you don't feel "good" from it anymore... keeps the oxy bouncier and less sedative.

That being said - besides grapefruit juice, are there any substances, vitamins, herbs, etc that I should be aware of that will prolong my modest stash of OCs? And ACTUALLY do something/be worthwhile. I for instance, used to try chugging gallons of Simply Grapefruit juice (100% organic grapefruit, nothing else) for prolonging my benzo prescription when I used to be deeply dependent on them and I never was aware of a noticeable effect. I HATE the whole nodding thing. Is GFJ really worthwhile with oxy/opiates? How much does GFJ/anything else potentate the effects of the opiates? For example, if I have the equivalent to 2 full juicy fresh grapefruits 30 minutes before blowing any - will 1.5 pills do the same as say, 2 full pills.. or does it not work like that? I've heard something about it just effecting the sedative part of the high?

And looking forward to hopefully somewhat minor withdrawal... Never experienced anything luckily in the past except for just fatigue, feeling "weird", anxiety/depression, and just once - the most horrible single constipated shit I could ever have imagined.. Was in the bathroom near-tears for like 3 hours, having to resort to simply unspeakable things and finally getting it out.. I have like 4mg worth of Suboxone strips that a friend gave me, but probably won't actually need, just nice to have.

I assume just a healthy diet that I normally have, with lots of the correct vitamins, a good sleep cycle and steady exercise, hit the jacuzzi and steam-room every evening... should probably help in general.

Also ONE more question.... I took approx. 2mg of the Suboxone strip I had yesterday around 5:00pm. Hadn't taken any opiates in 2 ays at that point and definitely was not W/Ding (at least from the perspective of most people on this forum), but having a slight "weird" feeling in my head, and just not that awesome. Mostly just wanted to test them out, to see what kind of dosage I should take. Surprised how much it actually 'fucked up' it got me... dilated pupils and all! Not really a pleasant 'high' though... IMO. Sorry, to get to the point: Now I am regretting taking the suboxone after reading a bunch of threads. If I receive my Oxys sometime later this evening (so around 24 hours later from taking the Suboxone), is it going to be still blocking my opiate receptors, or lessen the effect/high of my blues? I don't want to waste any precious pills. I've been told that I will definitely be good, but also read of reports that would leave me to believe the opposite.

I have dark eyes and it's hard to tell exactly how much the roll of light is playing.. but it seems pretty apparent that my pupils are still a bit dilated! This is the only thing that worries me. I don't have a huge problem holding off till tomorrow (Monday) if it a matter of wasting them... but it goes without saying, I am really really going to want to blow at least 1 oxy before I head to bed and start the week.


Sorry about all the questions but I just had em all in my head. Thanks.

 

[Tommyboy]

Eat the oxycodone. That's the easiest way to make it last longer, plus it has a higher oral BA. If you really want to sniff it, then eat half the dose, and sniff the other half.

I would wait 2 days after taking the suboxone before taking any other opiates. Even if it isn't going to block the oxycodone, it likely raised your tolerance a bit, so give it a few days to go back down. Everybody is different with how long it blocks for. Some can get high 12 hours later, and some need to wait 3 days. That's why I say to give it 2 days or so.

 

[helium-4]

I dunno 2mg really isn't that much. It could even allow him take less oxycodone than normally. I find lower doses of bupe to be add to other opioids effects (staying under 2mgs of course).

Also, eat the oxy. It's silly to snort oxy imo. There really isn't a rush snorting them, and only comes on like 15 minutes quicker than oral administration. You also shorten the duration and lose a portion of the oxycodone by snorting. Instead of a 3 hours experience you'll have atleast a 4 to 5 hour experience. The only time I'll ever snort oxycodone is if I have a nice base of oxy taken orally, and want to adjust the dose slightly so I can slip in a nod. Even then I'll still 95% of the time dose orally.

 

[Tommyboy]

I dunno 2mg really isn't that much. It could even allow him take less oxycodone than normally. I find lower doses of bupe to be add to other opioids effects (staying under 2mgs of course).

Yea, not sure if 2mg is low enough of a dose for that to work. I found it to kinda work with 1mg a few weeks ago when I was impatient and took oxycodone like 12 hours after taking 1mg of bupe, but the high felt more like a bupe high than an oxy high.

Also, eat the oxy. It's silly to snort oxy imo. There really isn't a rush snorting them, and only comes on like 15 minutes quicker than oral administration. You also shorten the duration and lose a portion of the oxycodone by snorting. Instead of a 3 hours experience you'll have atleast a 4 to 5 hour experience. The only time I'll ever snort oxycodone is if I have a nice base of oxy taken orally, and want to adjust the dose slightly so I can slip in a nod. Even then I'll still 95% of the time dose orally.

I agree. When I was younger (and the original OxyContin was still around) I used to sniff oxycodone all the time, but now I rarely do. If I have like 3 roxys then I may eat 2 and sniff 1, but really it's just an unnecessary pain in the ass since it's not getting you any higher, it makes the high shorter, and you have to take the time to crush/sniff. Then you have to deal with blue buggers/snot in the case of those V script roxys and maybe some other generics, although I'm not sure since I have only sniffed them a few times. After having a steady supply of percocets which I ate because you can't sniff them effectively, I realized how much better the oxy high was that way, and stuck with the oral route when I came across any other form of oxycodone after that.

When tolerance is low then sniffing it isn't that bad, but once you run into tolerance and issues with duration, then it's time to make the switch to the oral route IMO. The higher oral BA is really felt with higher doses since the gap between the actual dose you are getting (considering the ROA) gets bigger. I don't know many experienced users that still sniff oxy since they either got sick of sniffing however many pills their tolerance called for, or they were in a position where they had to eat their dose and were pleasantly surprised, and never looked back.

 

[bluntedskier]

Really that long? Damn... so what is the half life for Bupe? I guess I will see how my pupils are by this evening (I know that isn't the only sign..). And maybe just take a small amount (like 15?) and if I don't feel anything like I normally would, well, 15mg would not effect me much, but I would still for sure feel the presence of it. My buddy who gave me the Suboxone said he was good to get highly in a normal way about a day. I have also seen a lot of posts about people who say they can get high perfectly well, if not with added better effects in much less time? I have a pretty fast metabolism if that has anything to do with it.


- As for eating Oxy... I see this argument back and forth, never ending on online forums... I am fully aware of the logic of taking them orally, and when I had surgery to my face a couple months back (I couldn't snort one, bad idea), and continuing a bit after that... I stuck to just eating them. However, for a while since then, the times I've had oxy I have just blown them. It seems to be less sedative, more speedy? or is that just a placebo effect?

So I would disagree that it is "silly" to blow oxy... like IT IS "silly" or actually really stupid to blow any type of benzo.

I know the BA intranasal is lower and the high is shorter, but it works quite well insufflated or the majority of the millions and millions of people who do them, wouldn't take them that way. I'll just put it this way - you would be surprised how popular and how many kids blow oxy here at harvard and then go do things like... study all night.. Its definitely "the new coke" . Especially combined with adderall or another amp drug. Also, I personally find it actually really pleasing to snort - from the taste to the relative smoothness. And so easy.. easy enough that I've blown lines right publicly in many of the libraries at school on the table I am working at without anyone really noticing.

However, thanks for reminding me. I probably won't take any tonight just to let the Suboxone clear out of my system... but either way, I am definitely going to like you said, eat one and then wait for it to come up fully and then blow one. Sounds perfect.

 

[Tommyboy]

The bupe half-life is 30-something hours, so quite long. It really does depend on the person though. It takes me at least 2 days to feel anything, and then another 2 days to actually get the full effects from whatever opiate I am taking after suboxone.

I know the BA intranasal is lower and the high is shorter, but it works quite well insufflated or the majority of the millions and millions of people who do them, wouldn't take them that way.

I'm not saying that it doesn't work. I got high for 2 years sniffing oxy before making the switch. The main factor for the switch was the duration, which is why I suggested taking it orally since duration of the high is the topic of this thread. I also figured that you wouldn't want to switch, which is why I suggested eating half, and sniffing half. That was you get the faster onset from sniffing, and the longer duration from taking it orally. Best of both worlds.