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Bupe Mainlining Suboxone while on maintenance

I've never had the septic crap and mg veins aren't too terrible and I've shot liquid methadone a good bit... I've only had 3 iv injuries or. Whatever-- one abcess, one needle removed, and cotton fever. So it's not quit as terrible as some people make it out all the time but it's not something I would start either.
 
Ya, I mean wouldn't reccomend it but, if you know what your doing, know the risk etc, I don't see the big deal, and it can't be as bad as people who shoot there cherry red methadone take homes.... and really if its strips,don't know the inactive ingrediants(know citric acid,think white ink for the little N's on it,and something else) in it but they gotta be betther that what people shoot black tar with...Now I know people always say micron,micron,micrion(i agree) but they really every only mention with pills..Not Black Tar Heroin or Street Cocacain..If you wanna keep your veins those are two street drugs you should defineately micron filter, don't know how many times I've heard Tar destroyed someone's veins...

EDIT: Inactive ingredients-polyethleyne oxcide,hydroxproypl methycelluose,maltitol,acesulfame pottasium,citric acid,sodium citrate, FD&C yellow 6, and white ink for those lil n's on there.
 
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^ I partially agree, but the fact that some people inject they're cherry methadone is hardly a good justification for IV'ing anything.
But yeah, the strips contain so little filler, and especially if you are injecting just 0.5mg at a time(1/16th of a strip) well, it seems it would be the most harmless of anything you could inject. Or especially doing just 0.25mg, or 0.125mg as some do, I mean the kidneys should have no problem with that, whatsoever.
(Not advising it, though, just comparatively speaking)
 
Yea when I started injecting I just picked a needle up and kinda figured it out by what I've seen people do I never used sources like BL for harm reduction till alot of damage was already done. I basicly didn't care what happened to me I was in A very bad state of not giving a fuck wishing harm on myself as a young teenager. I was also showed by a guy with very poor technique. I've used puddle water before and shared needles with others cause I didn't want to go to the pharmacy. I mean I never started much harm reduction till I went to detox and some people mentioned harm reduction sites and then got a smartphone and started looking on drugs forum and BL (settled on BL of course:) ) and I realized how many particles cotton let's through and learned about micron filtering and lots of other harm reduction techniques.
 
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^ I had to teach myself, with no help whatsoever. Some chick sold me some pills and asked if I needed a needle...

I hit myself, first try though. People say they just cannot find a vein, and it amazes me. IDK, I guess it comes naturally to some...
 
Yea I guess so most can't do that but I suppose some are naturally good at it or have better veins for it. With me my veins are all hidden the hospital can never find a vein on me the only way is to put pressure on the area the vein is till I feel it they are pretty deep in my arm for whatever reason and again I wasn't very careful with HR by sharing needles and not giving a fuck.
Isn't injecting un filtered cherry methadone somewhat ''better" on the veins than un filtered suboxone? I remember even micron filtering I was having some odd things happen with my veins I didn't like and they were like harder than they should be.
 
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I've never used a micron filter and shot subutex and cherry methadone a good bit and as long as I rotate I have always found a vein. Be careful of course but I'm not entirely sure people aren't blowing some of this out of proportion. All my needle related injuries were from heroin; not even that other shit.
 
Also I have terrible small weak anemic veins and usually have to tell people in the hospital where to go. And I'm more tracked out than anyone I know. Shit heals and all that crap in my experience isn't as bad on your veins as I've read-- but this just me.
 
I had someone do it for me the 1st time, then I always had trouble finding a vein, so a friend a mine who didn't shoot would shoot me up, but never could in the begining,still am kinda bad at it. The one vein on the crook of my right arm is gone now I think, don't even think it was because I used it all the time for the Roxi's but the time I was REALLY desperate to feel some kind of buzz after about 3 months on suboxone and did a whole strip in that one,dumbest thing ever. But, still suck at veins, you cant really see mine exept on the bottom of my arm and I never could get those cuz it felt like I would always be missing after I would register. But can get the legs, hands, and even the small ones on my fingers..my arms have always been difficult for me except for everyones go to spot...(crook of the arm.)
 
Yea well what I think did me in the most was cocaine injecting that crap definitely was sworse than heroin suboxone or whatever else I have injected really. Yea I didn't always filter heroin and cocaine either my buddy that taught me said its un nessesary because if any particles didn't dissolve in the solution it would clog the needle so if it doesn't clog then your fine.
 
Ive been shooting suboxone for a while now (.5-2mg) in every shot. Don't go over 2mg. As other said, you don't get high, no rush, no sedation. If you just got on maintenance than it might give you some energy but that's it. I mostly do it for the needle because I like to shoot up.

Some advice: always use a clean pin. Filter your shit. Cold water only, break it up into tiny pieces, let it sit for a bit (bout 5/10min) stir until there is no pieces (it should be an orange solution) filter and shoot. Ive been doing this and my veins just recently started having some trouble. Idk if its from the subs or the dope. I jump back and forth from both.

Now heres something that has fucked me up man. I used to be able to take dope and the next day take a sub and be good. If you are on maintenance stay on subs. Don't jump back and forth. From what I found out is that fucking around and using it as a crutch from one day to the next my body doesn't adjust to the suboxone as well as it use to. The first day im a bit uncomfortable for the first few hours or the first day depending on how much dope I took. It will be a problem.

Also, another thing I made a mistake just the other day w/ shooting I just went through a 4 day binge on some fire and the next day I got up and felt sick. So I took 4mg and shot 2 more man an no bullshit I never experienced PAWS ever before an it hit me like a fuckin concrete truck man. Shitting, uncontrollable sweating, shaking, freezing cold. And since I shot it man it hit so much quicker. I mean I was ok in an hour but god damn dude fuckin up like that hit me so quick and hard I thought I was dieing. It was like you know how you go from sick to superman when you are so damn sick and you shoot up and once that rush comes you can take on the world? Well it was like that but I was already sick an turned into a fuckin cancer patient man just be careful ya know what im saying.
 
^^ I thing you mean precipitated withdrawals PAWS is after ryou detox off a drug and you get that depression for a few years before your brain starts generating your natural feel good chemicals normally again.

And I should've clarified by not fun I meant I don't see the point of shooting sub but then again I get mine for cheap I pay about 40 a week for my script of 2mg tablets so I could see making it last longer by getting the higher B/A but I don't see doing it to get higher cause although it may feel stronger at first that goes away quickly and it soon becomes basicly the same feeling you would get from using it sublingually so I figure why take the risk if you have enough pills to use sublingually I mean this guy gets like 16mgs prescribed a day I'm sure he don't need to shoot that up.
 
I got 18 a day subutec-- and it always took like 4-5 days of feeling kinda crappy for bad withdraws to start. I think what you experienced is very common?
 
Hmmm, when you said in the begining you didn't filter your coke/h reminds me of a time I got some MS CONTINS and wanted to shoot them, well I called a girl who did them and asked how she did them, her response, crush in spoon, draw into syringe, DONT FILTER, Really thought she was fuckin' with me, but she wasn't... Anyway, bout to watch that Reindeerspotting Documentry since I finally found a place that has the whole Documentry. In Finland I guese Subtex is a huge deal there and it follows around these people with IV Bupe habbits..Don't see how it could be THAT recreational honestly, but I gues if that's what you started out on, and getting those Temgesic tablits then maybe bupe does provide euphoria. Seems like some European counties have different opiates of choice, forgot where but one country, there main opiate there was a Fent Analouge and he posted on here and everyone told him he was gonna die, but he replied back saying that was the opiate that was available there and most people were hooked on.Anyway...
 
Oh, buprenorphine is amazing if your opioid naive/ have an extremely low tolerance.

Remember, it is still an extremely powerful opioid. At low doses, it functions as a potent full agonist, with a long duration.

Not to mention the fact that those people likely get AT LEAST 16 shots out of 1 pill strip. It's really the perfect opioid to use as an anti-depressant, mainly because of it's ceiling effect, less "recreational" high, long duration, and self limiting tolerance.
 
Ya, know it REALLY STRONG for people with low tolerance/no tolerance,if only it was like that for us,lol. It does have a great Anti-deppresent effect I must say, might be wrong but I think they were working on making an anti-deppresent drug from Bupe but taking away the part that hits the opiate receptors. Anyway, you should check out this documentry Lorne Reindeerspotting:Escape from Santaland. Think you might like it since it focuses on bupe abuse in finland, and just how different people think of bupe as a recreational drug over there and just a maintaince drug thats missing something for people in the states..
 
Oh man, I've went a week without anything,(well close to a week) and then IV'ed, buprenorphine, it was awesome. But within another week, well... same old shit. But remember, I IV it, so the half-life is exponentially shorter. I can't imagine how long it would take sublingually, to lower tolerance that much, probably weeks.

Yeah, I've read about it, but would like to see the documentary.
 
good documentary I wish I could smack those kids through the TV and tell them injecting 40+ mgs of un filtered subutex a day is retarded when 1mg could get you higher. but good documentary sad though finding out jani was killed after the movie I really liked jani he was a great person with a awesome funny personality that shines so bright. so sad to see souls like his being lost to drugs all over its like a fucking plague opiate addiction these days it grabs anybody and doesn't let go. another good movie is trainspotting

I think bupe is awesome In low doses I prefer it over morphine for sure and it is still useful for people with high tolerences as long as the person stayed away from methadone they are fine to go on bupe even when doing massive amounts of dope.
 
Oh, buprenorphine is amazing if your opioid naive/ have an extremely low tolerance.

Remember, it is still an extremely powerful opioid. At low doses, it functions as a potent full agonist, with a long duration.

Not to mention the fact that those people likely get AT LEAST 16 shots out of 1 pill strip. It's really the perfect opioid to use as an anti-depressant, mainly because of it's ceiling effect, less "recreational" high, long duration, and self limiting tolerance.
Ive gotgta strongly disagree on the anti-depressant effects, maybe its just a individual based side effect, but for me my depression sky rocketed once i got on the subs, and so did my insomnia...its still a shitty drug IMO!
 
I hated subutex too, it also fucked with my stomach and so did methadone-- they made me puke and not shit for weeks like an incredible dope habit. On days when I had to take my methadone in front of the clinic nurse I would be projectile vomiting by the time I got home. I don't get how the high would go so far but I definitely agree that when you don't have shit then get one and shoot it it makes you feel so much better its great. Ill have to watch this documentary. I thought subutex/ suboxone has a ceiling after like 32 or 29 mg or something? Like, you don't feel it any more than that?
 
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