Stimulants Magnesium Citrate - Adderall

[Druidus]

Can I use magnesium citrate for amphetamine potentiation? Is it the same as chelated magnesium? I just need to know what to ask for at the pharmacy. They didn't know if they carried "chelated magnesium", but they do carry magnesium citrate. If the citrate doesn't work, does the glycinate variety?

Thanks, folks.

EDIT: Is it allowed to ask for a brand name, one sold in Canada? The pharmacy said that'd help a lot, if I knew a brand name for a chelated magnesium product, or what it's used for as opposed to normal magnesium supplements (magnesium oxide). The only use I'm aware of is enhanced magnesium absorption, and I know no specific brands.

 

[sekio]

"Chelated magnesium" is just carbon-based salts of magnesium. Citrate gluconate glycinate etc. They are all pretty much interchangeable.

Mg citrate is just fine.

 

[Druidus]

How much magnesium citrate should I use? And how long before the amphetamine dose (oral - parachuted)?

Thanks for the info so far.

Edit: I need to know how to use it properly for potentiation, in essence.

 

[hatrix]

I wouldn't really say it potentiates it, as much as it helps to keep your tolerance from rising so easily.

It might however prolong the high. Other than that, there doesn't seem to much added effect. It will aid in muscle relaxation and I believe help with blood pressure.

I personally take Magnesium Glycinate. Usually an hour or so before dosing, then a couple hours after dosing/during the comedown. Maybe after the comedown too if I forgot to take it the second time and I'm feeling some stiff muscles and having a hard time relaxing.

Stay away from Magnesium Oxide. It's worthless. BA is roughly 3%.

 

[i are spectre]

i dunno some people have mixed effects from Mg, here my experience...

as often as i can, i try and take a handful of off-brain tums (sodium carbonate) and 3-5 tabs of magnesium chelate about a half hour before i take adderall.

i do this again about a half hour after the adderall, and maybe an hour or two after that.

now ive got some wicked amphetamine tolerance, at least in my mind, ill take 120mg at a time just to get started. i wish i started using the Mg sooner. anywho, id say when i do those two things (mg and antacid) its about twice as strong, but more like 1.5 times as strong with little to sometimes no side effects. no jaw clenching or sweatiness, none of that crap. it almost feels like a different drug.

i dont quite understand the mechanism behind it but im guessing since the adderall causes quite a sympathetic response (releasing ATP specifically) that it will drain Mg, because a lot of people dont realize that ATP literally wraps around a magnesium ion for transport. i gotta dig for sources as i didnt save them, but i did not realize this, but you think about a ATP molecule thats HEAVY PO4- charge, that has to be balanced by some form of large cation.

magnesium is the fuel of the body's fuel.

 

[Gaz_hmmmm]

If you can find a bioavailability comparison chart of the different Magnesium salts (As was already said, Mg Oxide is the shittest! Which is one reason I dislike Holland & Barrett's Multivitamin & Mineral tabs's, all the ingredients are great except the Mg, the cheap bastards! But then that's another thread, sorry for hijacking!) you'll obviously be able to find out which is best to take.

I've heard/read that chelated forms are the best, but they can be expensive.

I prefer to just use pure Mg Sulphate (Epsom Salts) as it's very cheap, I guess cause it's not, as 'Epsom Salts', sold as a supplement. It's 'for' constipation and muscle relaxation (I think you add it to a ht bath, but I prefer to drink it in juice that way I know I'm getting it all! And yes you can absorb magnesium, I'm guessing not all forms, through your skin!) and I think upset stomachs or indigestion.

If you do get Epsom Salts (They come in crystal form, a little larger than sugar) take no more than half a tea spoon/2.5grams as any more and you'll get the shits, unless you have constipation and do want a bowel movement!

That's the dose (2.5g) I take before I use opioids (Mg also helps lower tolerance to them too. Some people on here disagree though as they say that the amount of Mg that would get through the Blood Brain Barrier wouldn't be enough to help with opioid tolerance but I think it helps.