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Oh, that makes sense.
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Film Mad Max: Fury Road
- Thread starter Kenickie
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you must be 'thedeceased' back for more.
alasdair
alasdair
ForEverAfter
Ex-Bluelighter
What?
Back for more what?
Are you going to actually post on topic, at some point... or are you going to just continue making weird personal comments about me?
I'm not doing anything wrong, here. I'm just stating my opinions.
I don't know what your problem is, dude.
(Apologies, if that comment wasn't directed at me.)
Back for more what?
Are you going to actually post on topic, at some point... or are you going to just continue making weird personal comments about me?
I'm not doing anything wrong, here. I'm just stating my opinions.
I don't know what your problem is, dude.
(Apologies, if that comment wasn't directed at me.)
apology accepted.
alasdair
alasdair
ForEverAfter
Ex-Bluelighter
Either way, you've been consistently weird and antagonistic towards me for ages.
So, I'm going to put you on my ignore list for now. (You're the only one on it.)
So, I'm going to put you on my ignore list for now. (You're the only one on it.)
One Thousand Words
Bluelighter
Mad Max pretty much invented the genre so that is sort of the point
ForEverAfter
Ex-Bluelighter
The point is that it's derivative of films that followed the film that it is rebooting?
That's a shitty point.
Not having a crisis.
There are rarely any interesting discussions on F&T.
At least I attempted to contribute to a discussion.
That's a shitty point.
Not having a crisis.
There are rarely any interesting discussions on F&T.
At least I attempted to contribute to a discussion.
bickering like a school girl is hardly an attempt at conversation
it seems like your grasping at straws here. discrediting a film for being derivative, when it's a reboot, doesn't make much sense to me. and it's from the same director nonetheless?
won't hold it against you because you aren't privy to Mad Max canon, but also proclaiming this movie a reboot of the second OG film is false
it seems like your grasping at straws here. discrediting a film for being derivative, when it's a reboot, doesn't make much sense to me. and it's from the same director nonetheless?
won't hold it against you because you aren't privy to Mad Max canon, but also proclaiming this movie a reboot of the second OG film is false
ForEverAfter
Ex-Bluelighter
It is derivative of the genre.
Hence, "generic apocalyptic fodder".
You misread what I wrote.
And, I don't really want to get into semantics about the word reboot.
It is a Mad Max reboot. I never said it was a reboot of the second film.
Bullshit. I've gone into considerable detail about the film and the genre.
I've made comparisons to other films, and other directors.
Most threads consist of variations of, "I like it."
Relative to them, my attempts at discussion (not conversation) are just that IMO.
No, I'm not.
I'm quite happy to elaborate why I think the film is derivative, if you like.
Hence, "generic apocalyptic fodder".
You misread what I wrote.
And, I don't really want to get into semantics about the word reboot.
It is a Mad Max reboot. I never said it was a reboot of the second film.
Bullshit. I've gone into considerable detail about the film and the genre.
I've made comparisons to other films, and other directors.
Most threads consist of variations of, "I like it."
Relative to them, my attempts at discussion (not conversation) are just that IMO.
No, I'm not.
I'm quite happy to elaborate why I think the film is derivative, if you like.
What 23
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FEA, for all you have said about not being interested in things, this thread is very telling.
"Wears a mask over his face."
That mask is also with a symbol of a trident. This is a symbol of Neptune/Poseidon.
You have insulted me so many times, and I can tell you, sometimes I look at the stars and all I see are points of light... I dont find it that interesting. Other times, I see constellations. Shapes. And I realize how much more variety/information is up there. There is a lot out there, potentially (some of those points of light may be galaxies, too).
You have a horrible attitude man. I hate even bothering with this forum anymore, and its elitist, snobbish, arrogant pricks like you that are the cause. Uninspiring, negative, insulting. You judge like you actually fucking matter. You are shallow. I doubt any creative would want you as company.
I'm glad people like Kenickie have taken the time to look into the film. I'm sure the creators appreciate it, too. The film, in my mind, is very art-ful. Just because YOU can't see it and make up your mind so quickly as to what it is doesn't mean that that is the way it is.
He leads them back to the water...
He meets up with the women when they are with water.
Waaaaater. Yea you may not get it. You probably don't knowing you. I've made my mind up on this.
Milk.
Blood.
I also identify with being mad, hearing voices. Also the ear itself is shaped like a shell, and weather systems... You may not find any of this interesting, FEA, and perhaps it is the source (you think you know me). Some here may not either. That doesn't mean someone won't, at some point. Perhaps not this post, perhaps not by me, but something perhaps like it.
Still, judging from experience, I know I am probably missing some things, and will judge myself/be judged.
One doesn't need to click this button:
"Wears a mask over his face."
That mask is also with a symbol of a trident. This is a symbol of Neptune/Poseidon.
You have insulted me so many times, and I can tell you, sometimes I look at the stars and all I see are points of light... I dont find it that interesting. Other times, I see constellations. Shapes. And I realize how much more variety/information is up there. There is a lot out there, potentially (some of those points of light may be galaxies, too).
You have a horrible attitude man. I hate even bothering with this forum anymore, and its elitist, snobbish, arrogant pricks like you that are the cause. Uninspiring, negative, insulting. You judge like you actually fucking matter. You are shallow. I doubt any creative would want you as company.
I'm glad people like Kenickie have taken the time to look into the film. I'm sure the creators appreciate it, too. The film, in my mind, is very art-ful. Just because YOU can't see it and make up your mind so quickly as to what it is doesn't mean that that is the way it is.
He leads them back to the water...
He meets up with the women when they are with water.
Waaaaater. Yea you may not get it. You probably don't knowing you. I've made my mind up on this.
Milk.
Blood.
I also identify with being mad, hearing voices. Also the ear itself is shaped like a shell, and weather systems... You may not find any of this interesting, FEA, and perhaps it is the source (you think you know me). Some here may not either. That doesn't mean someone won't, at some point. Perhaps not this post, perhaps not by me, but something perhaps like it.
Still, judging from experience, I know I am probably missing some things, and will judge myself/be judged.
One doesn't need to click this button:
NSFW:
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ForEverAfter
Ex-Bluelighter
For all I've said about what?
Not being interested in things?
What are you talking about?
Maybe you should check your attitude, dude.
I never insulted you - at all - like you did in that post.
You're a self-pronounced racist. You said black people make you uncomfortable.
All I did - in this thread, at least - was talk about the film.
The reason I snapped at alasdair is because he's been fucking with me for over 10 years.
No offense, buddy, but I don't care what you think.
![:\](https://bluelight.org/xf/BL_Images/Orig_Emoji/wrygrin.gif "wry grin :\")
What 23
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My seeming dislike of you goes back to your insults through many posts, and your better-than attitude with so many things. This film is the best. This actor sucks. This is better than that. Kenickie is "rambling" (an insulting word when someone has spent time and thought on something, and it is obvious here why you are baiting me now with what you are...), you say. I just wholely dislike your mode of perception this way. I tend to try to withhold judgment. And for you to, as I have seen, claim to be Christian, or have some respect for Jesus (unless I'm mistaken)/knowledge or passion for knowledge of the NT(?), you appear to be a judgmental ass a lot of the time. You seem to me to lack humility.
Just yesterday you said something I wrote wasn't at all "interesting" like you've said multiple times through many of my posts. And you say it so insultingly. This- what you've said in this thread, and many others, shows me you aren't one to always capture the interesting. To you, his mask was just a mask. You judge, so shallow. To me, it was more/there is more. To me, the fact that Chappie says "watch", as his first word, and times are shown and synced, certainly, is enough to make me interested. I doubt you looked further into it... even though directors... good directors and editors often rarely do anything by accident. I like details. And then you insult me for making a connection, or paying attention.
You dont care what I think? That's fine. Then stop responding to my posts.
Just yesterday you said something I wrote wasn't at all "interesting" like you've said multiple times through many of my posts. And you say it so insultingly. This- what you've said in this thread, and many others, shows me you aren't one to always capture the interesting. To you, his mask was just a mask. You judge, so shallow. To me, it was more/there is more. To me, the fact that Chappie says "watch", as his first word, and times are shown and synced, certainly, is enough to make me interested. I doubt you looked further into it... even though directors... good directors and editors often rarely do anything by accident. I like details. And then you insult me for making a connection, or paying attention.
You dont care what I think? That's fine. Then stop responding to my posts.
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ForEverAfter
Ex-Bluelighter
Okay. I seriously regret posting a non mainstream critical opinion on a internet forum.
I appreciate the people mature enough to have a discussion, but it's not worth this.
You're off topic. So I said something you said wasn't interesting. Stop being a baby.
Lots of people told you that your synchronicity ramblings were tedious.
This isn't fucking kindergarten.
And, you're the one being judgmental here. Aren't you?
You keep telling me that I'm insulting you, but - really - you're insulting me.
And, for the record, I loved Chappie. I gave it 4.5/5 on this forum.
So, as far as Chappie goes, I don't even know what you're talking about.
Mad Max's mask may be a work of symbolic genius. Or it might just be a rake.
You can convince yourself that symbolism is beyond me, if you like, because I don't see much value in his mask.
Mad Max is a fun movie. But, it's not deep. It's not a significant piece of art.
You might disagree with me, but that is my opinion.
I think you're reading things that aren't there.
When did I insult you for making a connection between a mask in a Hollywood film and Greek gods?
...
Perhaps this isn't the correct thread for whatever you're trying to do, here.
I, too, appreciated Kenickie's response. In fact, I'm pretty sure I said I appreciated it.
Perhaps I shouldn't have used the world "rambling", but - again - this isn't kindergarten.
And - again - if you don't like imaginary insults, maybe you shouldn't be so insulting.
I appreciate the people mature enough to have a discussion, but it's not worth this.
You're off topic. So I said something you said wasn't interesting. Stop being a baby.
Lots of people told you that your synchronicity ramblings were tedious.
This isn't fucking kindergarten.
And, you're the one being judgmental here. Aren't you?
You keep telling me that I'm insulting you, but - really - you're insulting me.
And, for the record, I loved Chappie. I gave it 4.5/5 on this forum.
So, as far as Chappie goes, I don't even know what you're talking about.
Mad Max's mask may be a work of symbolic genius. Or it might just be a rake.
You can convince yourself that symbolism is beyond me, if you like, because I don't see much value in his mask.
Mad Max is a fun movie. But, it's not deep. It's not a significant piece of art.
You might disagree with me, but that is my opinion.
I think you're reading things that aren't there.
When did I insult you for making a connection between a mask in a Hollywood film and Greek gods?
...
Perhaps this isn't the correct thread for whatever you're trying to do, here.
I, too, appreciated Kenickie's response. In fact, I'm pretty sure I said I appreciated it.
Perhaps I shouldn't have used the world "rambling", but - again - this isn't kindergarten.
And - again - if you don't like imaginary insults, maybe you shouldn't be so insulting.
hydroazuanacaine
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didn't mean to suggest that their inclusion is any sort of self-reflexive or meta- commentary. there's an argument that playing within its genre gives the film weight and significance. making a flop with a well principled feminist agenda isn't impressive. making a blockbuster with compromised feminist themes seems to be. i found a reviewer phrasing this idea particularly well, but i've given up on finding it again. i'm not really suggesting Mad Max is exhibiting mastery of form. i am really saying i don't fault film for favoring beauty.
right. though, while i agree that Mad Max is being salacious, i get the feeling we'd genuinely disagree about a girls and film.
fashion photography is a big part of why i'm stepping back to be clear that a work can emphasize beauty and be feminist. but there is amazing fashion photography, where as this scene is reminiscent of a Glamour, Vogue, or Maxim editorial.
i found a reviewer touching on something similar to what i was trying to get across in my first statement ...
feminism is hip.
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ForEverAfter
Ex-Bluelighter
Again, nice post dude... I suspect that, perhaps, I've been too a bit too harsh with some of my comments about MM.
My point about the fashion photography was that it (fashion photography) is not embraced as high-art. So, why should this be?
Fashion photography is stunning. But, it isn't deep: it has artistic qualities; but, most of the time, it isn't art.
As for the feminist stuff, I feel like MM gets away with being sexist - to some extent - by presenting itself as feminist.
Like a bad film passing itself off as parody, by establishing itself as self-aware.
Feminism is all in the hips.
My point about the fashion photography was that it (fashion photography) is not embraced as high-art. So, why should this be?
Fashion photography is stunning. But, it isn't deep: it has artistic qualities; but, most of the time, it isn't art.
As for the feminist stuff, I feel like MM gets away with being sexist - to some extent - by presenting itself as feminist.
Like a bad film passing itself off as parody, by establishing itself as self-aware.
Feminism is all in the hips.
Whosajiggawaaa
Bluelighter
I watched it in 3d at the movies, dunno whether it added to the experience but it was fkin awesome.
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This made me smile...
One of Hardy's, and Theron's stunt-double got together and now have a 14-month old son.
One of Hardy's, and Theron's stunt-double got together and now have a 14-month old son.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...Namibian-desert-married-14-month-old-son.html
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Kenickie
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this page is a mess because i have what 23 on ignore (which i highly recommend everyone else does - he's an admitted statutory rapist - and maybe a pedophile - and a virulent racist so until he gets banned it's just better for everyone to ignore him) but i'm not unblocking just to see what happened...
i've seen it four times now and, i don't know. i get more and more obsessed with it as time goes on.
i love it. the way it looks, the horrible future it exists in, the women, the heroic action of taking responsibility for your own life. wonderful. cannot fucking wait to watch the directors cut in b&w with a totally silent max.
i've seen it four times now and, i don't know. i get more and more obsessed with it as time goes on.
i love it. the way it looks, the horrible future it exists in, the women, the heroic action of taking responsibility for your own life. wonderful. cannot fucking wait to watch the directors cut in b&w with a totally silent max.