Heroin MA heroin V3 I'm wicked jammed kid

[Tommyboy]

I'm experimenting with 2mg sub 9 hrs after morning dose, let's see if I can get some magic lol
Breaking up dose is probably better than once a day like I've been taking them. I find myself craving a pill really fucking bad only dosing once. This way I'm shoving something in mouth at least. Maybe 2mg x 2-3 a day will calm the jones a little ...

I hope you mean 9 hrs after your morning sub dose and not that soon after dope. IME the best way to feel good off of subs is to wait a good 30 hours before dosing it. I usually don't feel a buzz from it the first day no matter the dose, so I don't go above 4mg (well I never go above that dose anyways). I start feeling it more the second and third day, with a 2mg dose in the morning and night.

It obviously doesn't work as well with larger habits so I always get down to 1-2 oxy 30s a day before transitioning over to the subs, otherwise it will only keep me from getting sicker the first few days, and just keep me well after that. But if my tolerance is lower or if I've waited 36 hours to dose it then it works much better.

The day before starting it I take my last opiate dose as early in the day as I can while still being able to sleep that night, and then go as long into the next day as I can before taking it. Another thing I do is I keep it at home while at work so that I have no choice but to wait until I get home to do my induction. So usually I'll take my last opiate dose at noon which should be late enough in the day for me to get some sleep, and then go to work with my withdrawals starting, then get home at 8pm when I will start with 4mg the first night. I'll usually wake up early in the morning starting to feel sick again and will dose 2-3mg which I will repeat at night, then I'll be on a steady 2mg 2x a day regimen.

I usually only use it to taper though, so I start cutting back my nightly dose to 1mg, then both my daily and nightly dose to that, then just 1mg at night a few times before stopping.

 

[Nocturne83]

It's been nearly 3 months since I last used, and I've tapered down from 16 to 12 mg subs. Only today, I forgot to take my morning sub, and I wound up having a nasty-ass craving. I checked the Holyoke police logs, and noticed a lot of arrests, particularly in the building where I used to get my dope most of the time.
Some of you might know that I stopped using after I got stopped by a cop who did the "MAYBE I'll file a criminal complaint...MAYBE I won't..." after he confiscated three bags off of me. So I managed to collect a couple N.A. keytags, and intend to get my 3-month one next week. Reading all these arrests in this week's police log was a good thing to do when the cravings hit.
Today was brutal, though. However, I won this battle, as my morning sub is now under my tongue as I type. I worry about the future, however. Even though I'll never go to the old spot I used to cop from again(I'd had plenty of users warning me that place was too hot and not to go there, but I didn't listen, of course, because the area was too convenient), there's other areas.
Then again, it could have just been a bad day. This is the first real bad craving I've had in almost three months. Other than that, things are awesome(and will hopefully stay that way).

 

[Mzral]

Haha your not on a run at the moment are you? And I don't mind helping someone who I know will return it, but like you said... Few and far between.

Haha, negative my dude. Still in a program. Working on landing this job hopefully by the end of August. Heading out today to see my girl so things have been going ok for the past 5 months. As bad as it may sound, there's a part of me that is always up for my next run but I have to abstain, as much as it sometimes may pain me to do so.

 

[Effect]

Haha, negative my dude. Still in a program. Working on landing this job hopefully by the end of August. Heading out today to see my girl so things have been going ok for the past 5 months. As bad as it may sound, there's a part of me that is always up for my next run but I have to abstain, as much as it sometimes may pain me to do so.

Glad to hear it man, thanks for getting back to me. It sucks cause since we started posting in here I feel like you've progressed your life a lot from asking your dad for an advance on your check to to street life and now your doing well. I'm literally nearly exactly in the same spot I was 2 years ago... At least it feels like that anyway.

 

[Cliffy78]

I hope you mean 9 hrs after your morning sub dose and not that soon after dope. IME the best way to feel good off of subs is to wait a good 30 hours before dosing it. I usually don't feel a buzz from it the first day no matter the dose, so I don't go above 4mg (well I never go above that dose anyways). I start feeling it more the second and third day, with a 2mg dose in the morning and night.

It obviously doesn't work as well with larger habits so I always get down to 1-2 oxy 30s a day before transitioning over to the subs, otherwise it will only keep me from getting sicker the first few days, and just keep me well after that. But if my tolerance is lower or if I've waited 36 hours to dose it then it works much better.

The day before starting it I take my last opiate dose as early in the day as I can while still being able to sleep that night, and then go as long into the next day as I can before taking it. Another thing I do is I keep it at home while at work so that I have no choice but to wait until I get home to do my induction. So usually I'll take my last opiate dose at noon which should be late enough in the day for me to get some sleep, and then go to work with my withdrawals starting, then get home at 8pm when I will start with 4mg the first night. I'll usually wake up early in the morning starting to feel sick again and will dose 2-3mg which I will repeat at night, then I'll be on a steady 2mg 2x a day regimen.

I usually only use it to taper though, so I start cutting back my nightly dose to 1mg, then both my daily and nightly dose to that, then just 1mg at night a few times before stopping.

No I was already dosing sub but just trying to feel something, that was a no go lol. Really frustrating but I guess they do what they're supposed to do.
I ran outta subs so I've been wd'ing until like an hour ago so I'm a bit better now, found some garbage Vic's but the price was right so I'm better now.
Thought I was gonna have to hit baystate for pain but thank god I found something lol.

 

[Cliffy78]

It's been nearly 3 months since I last used, and I've tapered down from 16 to 12 mg subs. Only today, I forgot to take my morning sub, and I wound up having a nasty-ass craving. I checked the Holyoke police logs, and noticed a lot of arrests, particularly in the building where I used to get my dope most of the time.
Some of you might know that I stopped using after I got stopped by a cop who did the "MAYBE I'll file a criminal complaint...MAYBE I won't..." after he confiscated three bags off of me. So I managed to collect a couple N.A. keytags, and intend to get my 3-month one next week. Reading all these arrests in this week's police log was a good thing to do when the cravings hit.
Today was brutal, though. However, I won this battle, as my morning sub is now under my tongue as I type. I worry about the future, however. Even though I'll never go to the old spot I used to cop from again(I'd had plenty of users warning me that place was too hot and not to go there, but I didn't listen, of course, because the area was too convenient), there's other areas.
Then again, it could have just been a bad day. This is the first real bad craving I've had in almost three months. Other than that, things are awesome(and will hopefully stay that way).

Hey nocturne your near me!! Cool.
Yeah people are getting banged left and right in Holyoke and spfld, it's nuts!!! I'm glad I don't cop in the street, seems kinda crazy . The cops went nuts yesterday being the 1st and all. Everywhere I looked people were getting pulled over, it's just crazy. They busted some dude in Holyoke with a few bags of weed and acted like they just busted niño brown, I was lmfao!! Anyway stay safe, just wanted to say hi to a neighbor

 

[Tommyboy]

Glad to hear it man, thanks for getting back to me. It sucks cause since we started posting in here I feel like you've progressed your life a lot from asking your dad for an advance on your check to to street life and now your doing well. I'm literally nearly exactly in the same spot I was 2 years ago... At least it feels like that anyway.

I feel you man. Some of us may be good at not getting out of hand with our habits (meaning we don't steal or rip people off for a fix, and do an alright job at hiding it) but our lives are pretty much in a stand-still as long as we are using.

 

[The Doc.]

Glad to hear it man, thanks for getting back to me. It sucks cause since we started posting in here I feel like you've progressed your life a lot from asking your dad for an advance on your check to to street life and now your doing well. I'm literally nearly exactly in the same spot I was 2 years ago... At least it feels like that anyway.

Nothing changes if nothing changes.

Time changes everything that's what people say... it's not true, doing things changes things.
Not doing things leaves things EXACTLY AS THEY WERE.

Your a good person effect I can tell when I talk to you that you would be good at whatever you chose to do but YOU got to start making changes and strive for a dream, everyone needs hopes and dreams.
You really could do whatever you put your mind to man, the sky is the limit don't forget that.
Its human nature to choose the paths that grant them the greatest rewards for the least amount of effort but some people want more out of life and want to work hard to achive more than average. I believe I can do whatever I set my mind to many people laugh at me when I tell them my dreams but I don't care I believe in myself and put 110% into whatever I do so I believe ill achieve my dreams I believe my struggles has made me stronger and would make me better at what I choose to do.

I hope you are not lost for long my friend your a good person who is stuck like so many of our youth today.

 

[cashfl0w_d0nkey]

U get buzzed off the subs??? All I've got access to are the 8mg strips. I've tried up to 8 mg sublingual and nothing. 4 mg gets me well but that's about it can't complain I guess it's a miricle for what it actually is... What's your secret norf? Don't worry about hr please, I have no fucking interest in quitting anything

Yeah i definitely get good effects from them. I think the key is to have tolerance low enough that you can feel 2mg or less for the initial dose. Past that point i don't find i get good effects. Probably something to do with binding affinity of nor-bupe...

 

[RTrain]

I feel you man. Some of us may be good at not getting out of hand with our habits (meaning we don't steal or rip people off for a fix, and do an alright job at hiding it) but our lives are pretty much in a stand-still as long as we are using.

Rings all too true. If anything you regress, at least I have in some senses and progressed in others. I have a ton of debt that I wouldn't have as a non addict, no money to my name, only liquid assets are a 2 yr old car half paid off, a TV, decent phone, PS3 and laptop that currently shows no more than a black screen(no idea what is wrong w/ it)....but I have a much better job & getting back on subs after a 4 month run. I'd day the negs outweigh the positives, but with discipline I can correct things.

I also haven't resorted to any nefarious acts to get dope, but just desperately depleted funds that I didn't really have, thus incurring all the debt I have. I always wonder how much ppl know about my habit, with you mentioning the ability to hide it well. I mean I've been at my parents place for most of my using time. I don't think they know, which is almost extraordinary, but maybe they know more than I perceive. I then wonder how much my sister and brother know. My bro knows I've had issues, but to what extent and for how long?!? My sis prob has some idea. Friends all know, but like my bro they arent too aware how bad its been, most likely they think its less severe. But i think people look at what I do for a living and how I hold it together pretty well, so they don't think I could be using dope constantly like I do..... Ehh whatever, fuck em anyway.

 

[Tommyboy]

^ Sometimes they really have no clue, but if they find out it explains a lot to them. Yet for other people their families / friends are still in disbelief after finding out so it just comes down to what you have been doing with your life I guess. If you've been acting all depressed then it will probably make sense if you are caught using. It comes down to how 'normal' of a life you lead while using, and if there seems to be something behind your behavior.

Yeah i definitely get good effects from them. I think the key is to have tolerance low enough that you can feel 2mg or less for the initial dose. Past that point i don't find i get good effects. Probably something to do with binding affinity of nor-bupe...

Yea, I find that how I respond to the initial sub dose says a lot about how well the subs will work that time. A year ago when I got on them with a big habit after switching back and forth with them for a bit the initial dose barely took the sick away, and I barely felt them the next few weeks, to the point where I was wondering if they were defective. But when my tolerance was low and I got on them I was feeling good off them right away since the sub dose was more potent than what I had been taking.

With their ceiling effect I find that any habit over 180mg of suboxone isn't going to be held well with them, and any dose under 100mg should be alright right away.

 

[Cliffy78]

Hey what's up bro I'm in Springfield? Been reading trip reports, sry I didn't see your post earlier dude...

 

[pissingpink]

im new to this site but... im wondering if after 4 days of trying to clean my system of heroin
(half g split between 2 people)- last day being Friday at about 6pm- will i pass a 10 panel urine test tomorrow? (Wednesday) or will it show up as morphine?

 

[Cliffy78]

I don't think we can answer drug testing questions here. Maybe check erowid or google, that info is readily availible and easy to find... Hope that helps a little

 

[Johnny blue]

That's correct, we don't do drug testing questions. Google it. Plus everyone is different and there's a lot of variables that will change how long a drug stays in your system so no one can tell you shit with any degree of accuracy.

I cleaned a bunch of posts off of this page. We do not allow sourcing and that means, don't ask for "friends" or post your email address or any other ridiculous crap. Consider this your warning because from this point on it's only gonna be infractions and bannings. While we're on the topic, please don't quote posts that you know are breaking the rules. We will remove those posts so quoting them just makes it worse.

 

[PapisPoppys]

What up people? I've been reading this thing for a while and finally made me an account. I just moved back to Mass from elsewhere in New England, for work and other reasons. The first thing I found about my area was that the d is sooo bad I would do a gram a shot get no rush and hope it would get me to sleep. I do have a stupid tolerance but wow. You can't even draw it up without heat its so bad. The middle man I used thought all that was normal and he'd never heard of stamps. I knew there were stamps in yoke so thats where I went. I found bunnys ten minutes into town, could've been faster but I didn't stop for the first person hooting at me. I tried a couple found some I liked got his number and been seeing him. It is literally at least ten times better than the gram bs. I truly do not get why anyone would go for such trash nobody should be banging gram shots real d a half should just about kill you. In the interest of harm reduction less cut is most certainly better. I know there is a good variety of mass here has anyone else found that stamps seem to pack way more quality into the smaller quantity? ps. how bout dem boo majeek in the birthplace of volleyball

 

[Effect]

^ it's all who ya know man... Don't let some shitty bags leave a bad taste in your mouth for the quality of the MA dope scene as a whole.

 

[PapisPoppys]

Drugs inc on the Natgeo channel is gonna be all about benzos in Boston this week, Thursday at 9 I think. I assume they'll be focusingonthe benefits of mixing methadone and xanax. Good show none the less the Philly episode convinced me to take a vacation therey. It was as advertised incredible dope the open air there is what dreams are made of.

 

[chinky]

yall watch that DRRUGS INC..was about dope really not benzos...odd name for the title imo

 

[Effect]

Haha they just wanted to be clever with the alliteration (BBB) and just because it's a common thing for people on the methadone clinics in Boston (and everywhere I'd assume) to take benzos on top of their daily dose as a means of potententiation (dangerous to untolerant and tolerant alike, you guys know) and give that seterotypical nod that some on the clinic display frequently.

I honestly had low hopes for it so it wasn't actually too bad in my opinion although I'm sure most people who watch episodes about their city have different ideas of where they should focus during the brief time allotted.

I haven't seen every episode from this season and I'm sure many of them touch upon if not focus on the country's growing heroin use (being an opiate user myself, its interesting to see different scenes even if not 100% accurate) and I typically find these more interesting so I'm sure I'll catch them all at some point most likely when playing the waiting game.

To be blunt, there have been way worse episodes in my opinion and it's always cool to see shit in your neck of the woods.