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BruceLeeSwag

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i have been a mxe user for 8 months now but allways in low doses, i regularly use other psychadelics like shroosm, 2cb, 2ce et

I would like to hole, but i am a bit afraid since my friend took 200mg mxe nasally and was completely braindead/zombified for 6 hours and couldnt remember the trip even which completely put me off the idea, is it safe to hole on ur own and is there different levels to the hole ?

is holing theraputic?
 
An M-Hole is unlike the chemicals you have listed. Are you familiar with dissociatives, such as Ketamine? These chemicals, like their name suggests, makes you dissociated from your own body. Not in an "Out of body experience" kind of way, but more in the way you feel and react to things.

An M-hole in particular is quite chaotic, confusing, yet oddly peaceful and enjoyable. I'll be honest, in high doses it can be quite scary. 200mg is a high dose. I once took 200mg and...let's just say I was in an entirely different universe. I totally understand what you mean when you say it scared you to see your friend like that. I once accidentally gave a friend of mine's girlfriend a high dose, forgetting she never did it before. She was bugging hard, but was enjoying herself.

Regardless of how it appears, as far as we know it is relatively safe. It goes without saying doing half a gram lines at once is very dangerous, however low to medium sized doses seem to be relatively harmless as far as obvious side effects, both short term and long term.

I wouldn't necessarily call M-holing therapeutic, however I can certainly see someone saying so. Even at it's worst, MXE is not a chemical which makes you bug the fuck out. Even if you freaking out on it, you are too rocked to really do anything, so you kind of just melt into a puddle and ride it out, as oppose to regular psychedelics such as LSD or Shrooms in particular which make me antsy and literally freak out at times.
 
Mxe is still around?!? Last night I was looking around for an rc vendor who had it but they all kept saying the same thing: that their distributor, china, had stopped production of mxe. Are you getting it from a vendor or from a dealer?
 
I get the weirdest feelings when I am on a large dose of MXE. It is like time stops, my body weighs a thousand pounds, I am FLOORED. But above everything else there is this overriding feeling like I am dying, but it is alright. . . Like everything before I did the MXE was leading up to that time, like my life really begins now and everything before that has just been a leadup to this experience of the M hole. It's almost as if a temporal marker is established in my life timeline every time I do a large dose of MXE, it is hard to explain. Closest I can get is the feeling you get when you overdose, get in a car wreck, or have a life threatening emergency occur. The feeling that oh well, life is over now, I wonder what will be next. But it's not scary at all, just an acceptance that what was before will never be the same again. I wish I had a source for K to compare the effects. . . I have only done K once before and WOW that was an experience with some amazing visuals. I described it as a death trip, with the visuals all being in drab, dark earth tones and stone and gold. On K I saw that I was in an egyptian tomb of granite, with golden heiroglyphs scrolling along the top of the walls. Totally a Death Trip which is why I am intrigued about the similarities to MXE. . . It contains that same essence of Death at least in the way it affects me. Very very interesting substance.
 
DoseYouAll said:
Like everything before I did the MXE was leading up to that time, like my life really begins now and everything before that has just been a leadup to this experience of the M hole. It's almost as if a temporal marker is established in my life timeline every time I do a large dose of MXE, it is hard to explain.
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Yup, I know exactly what you mean. What do you consider a large dose? The highest I've gone in 65mg in a single intranasal dose. I had no significant tolerance. It was one of the most radically altered states of consciousness I've ever experienced, up there with a breakthrough on 5-MeO-DMT.

OP, I can't even begin to imagine what 200mg would be like - if you want to hole 60mg should be plenty if you're not tolerant, which it doesn't sound like you are. That should give you an intense trip without ending up like your friend. But I would say that you should work up to that dose - if the highest you've gone is 30mg, say, then try 45mg before you try 60mg.
 
Lost Ego said:
Mxe is still around?!? Last night I was looking around for an rc vendor who had it but they all kept saying the same thing: that their distributor, china, had stopped production of mxe. Are you getting it from a vendor or from a dealer?
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What have you heard about this?

This is a little concerning to me, as the vendor I order from receives from China...and I've heard no such thing.
 
Doses I experienced were under 100mg at a time, not exactly sure though. Some of the most powerful were about 30 or 40mg IVd, if taken nasally probably double that. I only have experienced three batches of MXE, first one was the best. Amazing stuff, but after that the UK supplier stopped replying to my emails I guess they nixed their overseas business. Second time was crap, not even MXE. Third time, definitely cut MXE but still powerful. Just not pleasant at all like the first batch. I've given up on RCs it is a crapshoot and I don't think there is much more I can learn from MXE. Like I said I would much rather do proper K. . . I'd really like to get back to that strange, dark and magical place I saw before and see what else is out there.
 
i believe that my GF had an m-hole experience over the weekend working with small quantities. heres the approx doses she had:

t=0 : 15mg MXE (nasal) and 120mg MDMA (oral)
t=1.2hr : 30mg MDMA (nasal)
t = 1.5hr : 20mg MXE (nasal)

sometime around 2hrs she became fairly unresponsive and needed to lay down with a blanket. she was quite peaceful and could listen and speak back if addressed, but really just wanted to be still. she also purged several times over the following 2-3hrs, and said it felt quite nice for her.

I personally took similar doses at similar times, though i did not take the additional MDMA as i was curently on a low dose of AMT. I also doses about 20% more MXE and was redosing much longer into the night. we both took lots of pot and nitrous throughout.

She has described similar loss of control and memory from k in the past, and it seems like she is physically much more sensitive to MXE.
 
M - hole in my experience has been quite scary. I couldn't even imagine having any kind of external stimuli to sort through in that state. I was in and out of consciousness ( blackout ). and For a brief moment I was convinced I was abducted by aliens during my "holing" experience. Furthermore most of my MXE research has been with LSD. LSD + MXE i've read increases effects of both substances.( I was on LSD 2 of high quality tabs >100 ug, and somewhere between 150-200 mgs of MXE)

Remember with MXE the urge to redose is strong, and often times you can forget how much you took, like this situation regretfully. Any future experiments will have a sitter present.

During the moments before blackout, I can vividly remember staring at my dimlit computer keyboard, and all the keys had turned into an old civilization, and I saw the progress of human civilization growing before me. Civilizations destroyed by flames, fire, water, eachother. I still cherish this moment
 
defn said:
M - hole in my experience has been quite scary. I couldn't even imagine having any kind of external stimuli to sort through in that state. I was in and out of consciousness ( blackout ). and For a brief moment I was convinced I was abducted by aliens during my "holing" experience. Furthermore most of my MXE research has been with LSD. LSD + MXE i've read increases effects of both substances.( I was on LSD 2 of high quality tabs >100 ug, and somewhere between 150-200 mgs of MXE)

Remember with MXE the urge to redose is strong, and often times you can forget how much you took, like this situation regretfully. Any future experiments will have a sitter present.

During the moments before blackout, I can vividly remember staring at my dimlit computer keyboard, and all the keys had turned into an old civilization, and I saw the progress of human civilization growing before me. Civilizations destroyed by flames, fire, water, eachother. I still cherish this moment
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with your higher doses of MXE, do you ever have nausea? Is there anything to be concerned with other than losing your mind%) Is the 200mgs taken over a period? It seems like a high dose, but maybe you have tolerance. Sounds like acid and MXE are quite the trip8(
 
I once took 200mg of MXE at once, at a party my friend was having. I wasn't in the right state of mind at the time and wasn't thinking when I did the entire bag. I ended up bugging really hard, and spent most of my night in the living room, in the dark, convinced I was going to die, and under the impression that not only was I in a very deep M-hole but dosed by someone at the party as well.

Then, not too long ago I did a total of 400mg at a party I went to. I took about 200mg spaced apart by an hour or two. Then a few hours later I took another 200mg at once. With all the lights, the incredibly loud music, and the strobe effects I felt like I was skipping time, every other second was unrecognizable. Definitely not a wise decision on my part, doing such high doses is not recommended.
 
There are several plateaus within the MXE experience, but to me it seems that you are able to m-hole from around 75+ intakes of MXE if already under the influence of MXE at the moment. The secret seems to lie together with this and at the same time relax.

If doing multiple snorts of 10mg during the night over a period of time, relaxing all the time you will also fade into the hole and as you get out do a snort and slip into new ones for ages. I myself did this and I guess the total dosing from theese nights would be from 150-400mg.

Again - m-holing is best done while relaxing by yourself.

Anyone try m-holing with two people? Have you experienced the strange telepathic powers you get, building similar if not identical environments and worlds and melting together into symbiosis? This is surely something I need to investigate further.
 
a 50mg sublingual dose of MXE can rattle me to the core, it can be peaceful but also a very violent experience. I have established a personal increment that works for me, 30mg sublingual, and I take those with 1:30-3 hour intervals until I get where I want to be.

I can break the 200mg mark in a sitting but NEVER in large doses, always 10s, 20s and 30s.

Getting very high fast on MXE can be quite unsettling,
 
steingalkrs said:
Anyone try m-holing with two people? Have you experienced the strange telepathic powers you get, building similar if not identical environments and worlds and melting together into symbiosis? This is surely something I need to investigate further.
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I've experienced this a few times in a small select group of friends, in my home. It was back when I was still getting good clean batches of it, we sat around and watched movies all night and got lost in glowsticks and lights.
 
slo mo said:
with your higher doses of MXE, do you ever have nausea? Is there anything to be concerned with other than losing your mind%) Is the 200mgs taken over a period? It seems like a high dose, but maybe you have tolerance. Sounds like acid and MXE are quite the trip8(
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LSD + MXE gives you a gnarly hangover be warned.
I took 80 mg. 40 mg. and meant to take another 40 mg, but took an 80mg instead, and thats what threw me into that blackout state. (all spaced doses ~1hr) and I did have tolerance. I have almost no nausea on MXE alone, but with LSD it can come up. I find ketamine +lsd to be much better than MXE + lsd. I've postponed research on MXE as stated before, for tolerance break and overall mental health. I kept having these recurring 'terrors' on mxe, and I'd envision myself eating another dose and quickly being arrested in the "m-hole." And That is still a huge fear of mine to this day. I used to take it in public, but no more.
 
Your fear of m-holing I totally can agree on, but as stated my experience is that doing 25mg orally spaced out while being active and communicative and not breaking the 50mg barrier within the hour combined with relaxing you should be safe. I know doing 25mg orally, and 50mg orally 30-45 minutes after being active no problem.

I also done 200-350 without m-holing while being active, spaced out during several hours and being active dancing (trying atleast) and talking to the other people in the room. As soon as you relax, the 75mg within 30 minutes seems to open op the hole!
 
never have but when my first shipment arrives sometime next week i will learn it quickly and will check back with my experiences. hopefully if i feel like im gonna die(like a few of you have mentioned), i'll be ready to embrace it with love and not fear :)
 
If you are going for a m-hole, lying in your coach having good music on your stereo and just getting 10mg lines snorted for a while getting the feel of the stuff would be nice. Not sure if I would go for an m-hole the first night though - maby do it a few days later. As mentioned earlier to me looking at past experiences and other people the m-hole opens up when under the influence already from some MXE - you do 75+ mg mxe within a 30 minute timeframe and relax.

Hopefully someone can refine how to open the m-hole door, this is my best idea.

I can also add that all times I have been sucked into the distorted m-hole lying in my coach it really never was a problem - you just lie on your coach and explore the universe within your own brain. I wouldn't worry to much - if you do have a tripsitter with you.

Happy journey my man - you are in for an awesome experience.

I would also write a note and stick it to my wall before starting - "Did I M-HOLE, what did you see". I know that many m-holes are like dreams and you for some reason forget them, or stack them away in your brain until you suddenly remember them and days and days of experience reappears in your brain - a trip by itself, lol.
 
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