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m-Butylone

Whatever the active chem(s) in this product may be they certainly ain't psyches so gonna draw a close to this one for two reasons - firstly, no drug ID threads and secondly it has nothing to do with psychedelic drugs. Maybe try the RC Branded Pills & Powders thread in EADD (linky in my sig) or OD/BDD to discuss this one cos it really isn't PD material.
 
Sorry shambles, while you are right this is not really about the IDing of someones own sample because that is something we just cannot do. This is about what is meant by m-butylone, if it is actually synonymous for pentylone or if the methyl goes somewhere else. Because in butylone there is already an N-butyl. Who knows, m-butylone may have N,N-dimethyl.

No it is not really PD material and talk about borderline empathogens may be allowed because it can be a place for less-than-advance talk about research chemicals. There is talk about 5-IAI here as well which is certainly not a psychedelic, but it is not advanced enough for ADD and too advanced for BDD and I don't think research chemical discussion fits so well in OD. So it's an orphan subject.
 
Had to wait nearly a year to spot my *ahem* deliberate mistake, I see ;)

Haven't heard of this M-Butylone stuff since, I don't think. Caught up in the UK cathinone ban before it ever took off probably. All reports I saw said it was bunk or crap at best anyway so won't be losing any sleep over it myself.
 
It's more that I noticed the phenomenon in general only recently. :)

Point is though: why is there no decent information out there on this? I have the product in my possession but I don't know what it is. Shit, I forgot to memorize the formula / structure! Will check it later when I am reunited with it.

For some reason I was under the impression that butylone is not N-methylated, silly of me, of course it is.

Something strange is that a vendor lists butylone, pentylone and methyl butylone. So either they're crazy or they want to add it to attrack curious people or it means that methyl butylone is indeed something different than pentylone or good old butylone itself. Naming pentylone m-butylone would be weird but I got the idea googing for images.

The nomenclature is confusing to begin with: methylone and ethylone are about the N-methyl and N-ethyl, but butylone is named after the main carbon backbone. So what is N-ethyl butylone called? Bethylone? It would suck anyway, unless your girlfriend is name is beth and you give it to her as a birthday present.

The thread is now open but I don't expect a lot of nonsense in here - that will be deleted. I apologize for my own nonsense by the way, that isn't completely fair of me. This thread is purely to find out if this is a made up product name under which indeed other crap is sold, or if there is actually merit to this drug. If it turns out a disappointment it will be closed after all, then I will tell you 'you were right' =D
 
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Solipsis said:
So what is N-ethyl butylone called? Bethylone? It would suck anyway, unless your girlfriend is name is beth and you give it to her as a birthday present.
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"Bethylone" is currently being sold on some sites and is reported by users to be 4-MEC. Why these sites don't seem to know that it is still a cathinone and thus banned in the UK is beyond me. Except vendors are silly-billies, I suppose. This obviously relates to UK vendors but I presume it's also being sold elsewhere under the "Bethylone" moniker.

As for M-Butylone, I think there were a few threads in BDD about it but didn't seem to get much attention anywhere else. Hope it's better than it sounds anyway - enjoy :D
 
Dammit.

Did they trademark it already?

I've got to get up earlier in the morning.
 
Jesus christ.
Well first he has to catch me in the act of trying to pass off N-ethyl-butylone... I won't tell if you won't ;)

Ah man, reopened a thread to have some slowchat in it. What the hell. But since it's with you shambles I will let it go <3

P.S.
I am very content that there is another drug product name that is confusing. 4-MEC? Where does the "B" come in? Or the direct
analogy to methylone? :( Morons
 
The dimethyl after all? LOL nice - thanks!
I will confirm that after this weekend.

It also explains the longer duration it seems to have, if an extra methyl has to be cleaved off by what I suppose would be CYP3A4.

So, for now there will be a question mark still ;)

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I think the vendor in question named 4-MEC "bethedrone", didn't they? It seems like they gave almost no thought to the reasoning behind the nomenclature. They also called it "blue meow".

Also, would n-ethyl analogue of butylone not be bk-EDBD, or eutylone?
 
*drone indeed sounds like a serious drug. And yes you are right about euthylone.

SHIT, I just checked my baggy and while it says methyl butylone it also has the structure of normal butylone on it
as well as the formula (also for butylone). Let me check my friend to see if it really had an exceptionally long duration
compared to butylone.
 
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This is a real dirty stimulant in my opinion, not psychedelic in any shape or form. It's a drug that isn't enjoyable on it's own, I found it worked well with mephedrone.
Basically takes about an hour or two to kick in followed by a nice speedy comeup and about four to six hours of slight euphoria with it increasing. Afterwards you will be left with a stimulant feeling for another good 6 hours.
I took two doses (pills) of these at 4pm and at 7am the next morning I still had a real tweeky afterglow.
Not that enjoyable to be honest, first few hours are all good afterwards you'll just be left unable to sleep and really twitchy with a shit buzz that isn't enough to consider enjoyable.

Also, this stuff isn't that new. I first took it in a legal pill nearly two years ago. Took it 3-4 times in total, final time put me off it completely. Ended up smoking a shit load of weed to try and knock myself out and ended up in a complete stimulant paranoia attack, thought people beside me were talking about me and shit - complete bollocks obviously, lasted a good few hours really put me off the stuff as it was when the buzz was shit too.
 
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Ugh that sounds pretty shitty. Thanks for the update. :)

I'd be okay with moving this over to Other Drugs now that there is a bit more clarity. It is indeed not a psychedelic and at some point the research chemical side that is interesting to PD will be over.
 
Isn't m-Butlyone bk-MMBDB?
IUPAC: 1-(benzo[d][1,3]dioxol-5-yl)-2-(dimethylamino)butan-1-one

That's what my vendor advertises it as :\
 
Guess so. That is what the structure is at the bottom of the second page, with the question mark next to it, as posted by me:

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In other words DMC (dimethylcathinone) with a methylenedioxy and a longer chain. I don't think people are finding DMC that wonderful so I am not really surprised this is called dirty and semi-long lasting.

IRL.icecoolmadness said:
m-butylone you have is likely to be bk-mmbdb

1-(benzo[d][1,3]dioxol-5-yl)-2-(dimethylamino)butan-1-one
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