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LSD with or without Cannabis? Which do you prefer, and why?

ErgicMergic

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I have used cannabis on every LSD trip, either after the comeup or after the peak has faded away. It has the benefit of being a catalyst on low dose LSD trips too subtle to really feel on their own (0.5 tab), but also has the ability to "dirty" up and add a lot of confusion to major psychedelic experiences.

Please post your opinions, reasons, or a list of pros & cons.

In my experience:

LSD with Cannabis

Pros:
-Adds a familiar feeling to the trip if you are accustomed to the weed high
-Heavily adds to psychedelic euphoria
-Relieves back & neck joint/muscle pain due to the LSD's vasonconstriction
-Eases the mental "withdrawals" of cannabis if you are a heavy stoner and can't go a day without smoking
-Adds creativity and makes introspective thoughts even more intense


Cons:
-Makes you not remember all of the trip, as cannabis disrupts new memory formations to an extent
-Smoked cannabis has a heavy "crash" 2.5 hours after smoking if you are mentally/neuronally dependent, and "burned out" crash is magnified by the LSD, and can only be soothed with more weed or by eating edibles instead of smoking
-Ruins the purity of the LSD trip, so I usually save for 6-8 hours after dosing, in my experience
-Removes a lot of the predictability of the LSD trip; an intense 3+ hit trip that you were having a blast on can turn weird after your reality is shattered from adding weed on top of it
-Disrupts a lot of the clear, useful, productive thought patterns you get from LSD, instead making your thoughts a bit more circular and confusing
-Makes the trip more recreational, which is bad if you are trying to gain insight through personal introspection rather than just feeling good and having fun
 
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Personally, I don't like smoking while tripping. It makes me trip too hard, as well as clouding the high from the LSD. Though, I do love smoking on the come down. Smoking a small bowl brings me right back up. Than again, I don't really care for smoking as much as I use to. Tends to make me anxious and a tiny bit paranoid.
 
I also find it actually ruins trips IME, it usually intensifies them beyond my comfort or beyond what I was expecting and causes anxiety and paranoia.
 
Smoking weed on acid really does nothing to the trip itself. Unlike mushrooms, smoking pot doesn't add to or intensify the actual effects of the LSD.

I don't personally prefer to smoke on acid (I usually stare heavily at whatever I'm smoking, cigarettes especially) and it really does almost nothing for me. It might relax me a bit more but I can't tell in that exact moment. Smoking on mushrooms or ecstasy on the other hand is different. I would (and do) smoke on both.
 
^ I agree to an extent. It has the ability to "rewind" an LSD trip back an hour or two, so if you were peaking two hours ago and smoke, you will feel just like you were peaking again. It also adds a unique synergy that doesn't feel quite like LSD and cannabis alone, the combination feels very different, leading to believe they do actually boost eachother's psychedelic properties.

I have to say, I don't prefer to smoke on acid, either, unless the effects are wearing down and I want to boost them a bit. LSD has a long comedown, that stage from t+12:00 to t+18:00 where you're still not completely back to reality, and in a half-tripping, half-sober mindset which is a bit strange and can be powered through by smoking cannabis.

lulzkiller said:
Here: http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/395983-Combo-Subthread-LSD-amp-Cannabis
Click to expand...

Ah, yes, I read that thread before my first trip a year ago. I made this thread to promote more specific, directed discussion, rather than a "one-size-fits-all" LSD/cannabis combo thread.

That thread is definitely worth a read, however, and that second thread you posted is also interesting.
 
I think there are certain psychedelics that do not synergize particularly well with weed. 2C-E for example, in my experience, is one of them. I can take a hit or two, but anything more than that and it starts to feel extremely uncomfortable and I become hyper-aware of my heartbeat. LSD on the other hand...I will pretty much smoke weed throughout the entire trip, and as someone said, the two combine to form a synergy that doesn't necessarily feel like a combination of two drugs, but a single "new" drug.

In other words, weed greatly intensifies the visual experience and mental euphoria for me, so I won't trip unless I have a substantial amount of weed on hand. Well I take that back, I probably would if it was my only option... :P
 
^hm, in my experience, cannabis synergizes very well with 2c-e, and for me it takes off the edge of the trip a bit. also adds to the visuals. YMMV :)

for me, the synergy with acid is not as pronounced.
 
Right. The thing is for myself is I don't like to smoke weed on its own unless I'm alone, or I just have a couple of tokes here and there, because it causes anxiety. I like smoking it on other substances, particularly stimulants (although bar MDMA I don't use straight stims any more), things like aMT, and I love how it potentiates dissociatives too. I've said this somewhere on BL before, I see it as a condiment, never as a dish on it's own ;)

I've smoked on mushrooms and found it not great, I think the nature of shrooms anyway can make me slightly anxious occasionally even in a totally brilliant trip, and cannabis exacerbates this. And when it comes to LSD, I think the 'dish' is perfect as it is, it needs no seasoning. So although I've never blazed on LSD, I don't want to. Maybe one day I'll try a little as an experiment, but in all honesty I'm not in any rush.
 
i never touch weed if im tripping! everytime iv ever had it iv had a BAD BAD trip! i think weed gives me a tiny bit of paranoia but not enough to give a fuck normally but if im tripping i think that little bit of paranoia gets amplified.... WAY too much! :'(
 
Always, essential for people like me who are prone to nausea on psychedelics. It completely cures mine if I smoke before dosing, if I don't I tend to be sick or have a much more uncomfortable trip.

Although despite that, I tend to avoid it on the peak of high dose trips because it can have a negative effect. But it's essential for coming up/coming down, weed is a psychedelic itself, helps put things in perspective and makes a comeup feel much more natural to me. I recommend those in this thread who find it makes them paranoid to try it on the comeup (even before the comeup so you are stoned for the comeup) but avoid it on the peak. You'll be surprised at the difference.

I recommend buying a half ounce of grass, sticking on Jimi Hendrix - The Ultimate Experience at the peak of a high dose acid trip and proceed to smoke your brains out. See how many tracks you last. ;)
 
i like smoking a nice joint or a bowl on the come up and then i leave it alone untill im like "oh hey i havent smoked cannabis in a good while i think ill do that, sounds fun" then ill sit there for another hour or 2 grinding buds up zoning out and remebering that im trying to smoke weed. i have forgot i had weed before on lsd it even kinda made me mad came down more was like oh hey i got a quarter(also a car,wallet and a cell phone, etc.) lol.

i have noticed when im looping hard ill pass up the pipe(thinking ill just spiral more out of control) when my buddy hands it to me and then like 15-30 minutes later ill give in and ill start feeling alot more normal the more i smoke.
 
I prefer mixing weed with almost all psychedelics, but normally during and after the peak. Its more of a tickle I get wanting to break through further to see whats out there. Yes it does intensify my high but not beyond comfort levels, I find it to actually settle me in better and help me unfold into the beautiful euphoria of the trip.

Sometimes I will lay on the floor for an hour or more with a bag of weed and a pipe (rolling joints on heavy doses of psychedelics is harder than it looks) and just smoke bowl after bowl while watching my closed eye visuals. I find this a great time to reflect / bond with my inner self and learn a lot from the experience.
 
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