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lsd weekly for anxiety

thatdreamer123 said:
It'd be interesting to figure out an LSD dose (or other well known psych such as psilocybin) just barely below the threshold of any actual effects, and be "prescribed" on it every day. Wonder what sort of effects it would have on someones overall persona subconsciously.
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~20mcg
I do not believe it accumulates in the body. But this low dose may be noticeable some of the time.
 
There's a whole B&D on Microdosing, don't think it mentions doing anything for anxiety but there's some cognitive enhancement going on.
 
Could be something to this anxiolytic thing. This article says that DMT and other indole alkaloids may have anxiolytic effects.
 
There is some evidence of LSD's efficacy with what I'd imagine must be a particularly profound form of anxiety: anxiety over one's imminent demise: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/06/09/first-clinical-study-of-lsd-in-35-years-finishes-treatment-of-last-subject/ It should be emphasized that LSD was used in the context of psychotherapy here, and that the results may not have exceeded thresholds for statistical significance due to the very small sample size.

Personally I have found LSD to help with anxiety and OCD (you mention getting "locked on" trivial things, which sounds OCDesque to me) but that's been via very occasional use. Dosing on a weekly basis to me sounds like self-medication in the escapist/avoidance sense; in my experience you need far more time to reflect and integrate your experiences.
 
stillmind said:
There is some evidence of LSD's efficacy with what I'd imagine must be a particularly profound form of anxiety: anxiety over one's imminent demise: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/06/09/first-clinical-study-of-lsd-in-35-years-finishes-treatment-of-last-subject/ It should be emphasized that LSD was used in the context of psychotherapy here, and that the results may not have exceeded thresholds for statistical significance due to the very small sample size.

Personally I have found LSD to help with anxiety and OCD (you mention getting "locked on" trivial things, which sounds OCDesque to me) but that's been via very occasional use. Dosing on a weekly basis to me sounds like self-medication in the escapist/avoidance sense; in my experience you need far more time to reflect and integrate your experiences.
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I respect the population they chose for that test. It is, on the other-hand, perfectly rational to fear your own demise. Or not to, depending on the culture.
Having mental characteristics that resemble a mental disorder, OCD for example, does not mean that you have partial OCDish. Disorders arise from many various mental normalities.
It seems to me that LSD use eventually leads to deadened emotions, and is not a cure for any real abnormality.
 
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If it is effective, how quickly do you think the user is going to start increasing the dose? Just cause LSD isn't addictive in the traditional sense doesn't mean the patient isn't going to abuse it. If I had a bunch of 5mcg pills lying around, eventually I would take more than just a few. I feel like if you abused your dose once, you'd do it all the time. Eventually you'd just be someone who trips once a week and if he doesn't he at least takes a tiny bit.

Either way though... trying to get anxiety release from LSD... I would say that even if it's scientifically safe, beyond a doubt, that it should probably still not be done. There's more to it than science (I'm not talking about spiritual/religious) there are unintended consequences to starting a trend like taking LSD for anxiety.
 
xTalK said:
I'm seeing all these claims that supposedly this will lead to negative mental health etc but I see no proof. Plenty of people have used LSD for a weekly basis for long periods of time with no ill effects, even just take a look and see if there is a rise in schizophrenia etc. Yes there may be better options but this could be better than caining benzos if done right.
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It seems like you are exaggerating.
 
I brought up dosing 5mg of MDMA everyday for depression in ED and the overall conclusion was it would do nothing but eventually harm the mind and body. There may be some relation here.

I am very firm with this conclusion for LSD. Weekly use will not do anything to help anxiety and it could make it worse, however one powerful trip could impact anxiety, however this works both ways good and bad.

If you have terrible anxiety problems consult a doctor, or when you are panicking turn off the lights in your house and lay down and rest your mind.
 
I was talking about LSD deadening emotions but I recalled this.
Solipsis said:
.. the effects of alcohol and the effects of LSD are in no way related. People drink to numb themselves, forget (or become unaware and intoxicated) and/or calm themselves down and smoothen neuroticism or whatever sort of thing is bugging them.
LSD makes a person more sensitive, it does not numb - and it expands / enhances awareness rather than narrowing it. And if anything LSD can be anxiogenic rather than anxiolytic.
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Hope it helps straighten things out.
 
I just found something that may improve psychedelics. It's an herb called Kudzu. What brought me to that was a search for natural 5-HT2c antagonists, and this was what came up. See the thing about LSD and related compounds like LSZ is that they have rather strong 5-HT2c receptor agonist effects in addition to the psychedelic 5-HT2a effects. I researched what 5-HT2c effects are and they're all bad, depression, anxiety, antagonism of dopamine and norepinephrine release, nausea etc. So that explains why LSZ wasn't euphoric to me, it has stronger 5-HT2c than 2a agonism.

In fact this page has several posts from people who have used Kudzu alone and got euphoric effects. So I'm thinking that Kudzu tablets really are a required thing to take whenever tripping on psychs that have significant 5-HT2c agonism, like the lysergines (LSD, AL-LAD, LSZ). I'm going to try to get some and then try it tomorrow with some LSZ. Maybe it will cut the nausea AND make it stimulating and euphoric at the same time with its dopamine and NE effects. Lysergines are too general in their 5-HT agonism and need to be fine tuned with the proper antagonists to make it right.

Addendum: The only convenient health food store is sold out of Kudzu so I'll have to postpone the experiment until next week or whenever they restock. Maybe somebody else here could try it in the meantime though and report back.
 
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jason7 said:
I just found a cool thing that may make LSD even better. It's an herb called Kudzu. What brought me to that was a search for natural 5-HT2c antagonists, and this was what came up. See the thing about LSD and related compounds like LSZ is that they have rather strong 5-HT2c receptor agonist effects in addition to the psychedelic 5-HT2a effects. I researched what 5-HT2c effects are and they're all bad, depression, anxiety, antagonism of dopamine and norepinephrine release, nausea etc. So that explains why LSZ wasn't euphoric to me, it has stronger 5-HT2c than 2b agonism.

In fact this page has several posts from people who have used Kudzu alone and got euphoric effects. So I'm thinking that Kudzu tablets really are a required thing to take whenever tripping on psychs that have significant 5-HT2c agonism, like the lysergines (LSD, AL-LAD, LSZ). I'm going to try to get some and then try it tomorrow with some LSZ. Maybe it will cut the nausea AND make it stimulating and euphoric at the same time with its dopamine and NE effects. Lysergines are too general in their 5-HT agonism and need to be fine tuned with the proper antagonists to make it right.

Addendum: The only convenient health food store is sold out of Kudzu so I'll have to postpone the experiment until next week or whenever they restock. Maybe somebody else here could try it in the meantime though and report back.
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You should start a new thread on this topic. If one does not exist. Just stating the obvious.
 
Yeah okay I will when I do it then and if it works. If it doesn't help any then there won't be much point.
 
drink said:
Thank you so much for your responses. Swim might try dosing only once every two week. LSD so far has been an amazing tool for opening swim eyes and letting swim see his true self without swim's ego distorting his view. This new found insight has allowed swim to start working towards the person swim wants to become. Swim has tried many medications to help with his anxiety and found that the side effects far out weigh the benefits. So far swim has found that LSD is much easier to control than other psychedelic. Swim feel like a bad trip on lsd would be fairly mild compared to other psy like mushrooms. Swim once had a bad trip on 7 grams of mushrooms that caused him to stop doing all drugs for 3 years. Swim knows that LSD is a beautiful drug that deserves A lot of respect but swim feels that dosing at least twice a month will help him become a better person.
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Love a good swim there don't you OP, wear your floaties now ;)
 
You want to use small doses of LSD to make all psychedelic's better, or psychological meds better?

Either way... I'm seriously shocked that I'm the only person who thinks that every single aspect of this is a terrible idea. LSD for anxiety? Should people use heroin to sleep? Should people use coke cause they're socially awkward?

I actually think LSD would work wonders... If you used it by tripping to tackle your issues head on.

I guess I'm the old man telling the kids to turn the music down...
 
bennyZA said:
You want to use small doses of LSD to make all psychedelic's better, or psychological meds better?

Either way... I'm seriously shocked that I'm the only person who thinks that every single aspect of this is a terrible idea. LSD for anxiety? Should people use heroin to sleep? Should people use coke cause they're socially awkward?

I actually think LSD would work wonders... If you used it by tripping to tackle your issues head on.

I guess I'm the old man telling the kids to turn the music down...
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I am sure there is a drug for that too.
 
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