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LSD, Weed - Experienced - Friend Shot With Shotgun

I'm not going to shit in this thread anymore, luckytaak you obviously have a problem with Australia so I'm just going to leave it.
 
Unbelievable report and I'll pray that you and your friend's make a full physical and mental recovery.

I remember I held a gun once when I was tripping on mushrooms. I was young, 17, and went into my friend's dad's bedroom because I knew he had a gun in there and i wanted to see it (To this day I don't know exactly why i went looking for it, probably just becuase i wanted to see a gun while tripping.) It was a BIG 8 gauge shotgun and found it right behind the bedroom door. I picked it up and was surprised at how heavy it was. Once it was in my hand, I disnctly remember feeling a Strong emotion of power mixed with a little fear. I felt like Zeus holding a lightning bolt. I turned to a mirror, looked at myself, and then set down the gun becuase I was getting more and more scared. Point is, just the act of holding such a tool created an unforgettable emotion. I couldn't imagine having to actually use it.
 
luckytaak said:
Hiss I glad to hear it was just a 5 shot I thought that you were one of those guys stuck on the false belief that an empty chamber is safer then a full one.
I considered getting a 5 shot S&W but I like the larger frame revolvers better they just feel good in my hand.

rolls I can't believe you are proud of your Queen or magistrate (or what ever you call her) for taking away your rights.
You only trust the government with your guns? Or you think that they should control all guns and only give them to people that they approve? Wow, talk about sheepish people, very pathetic.
You don't think someone could drive a cement truck into a café and kill people oh better take those away. Actually maybe the Queen should house all the servants/works/serfs in a maximum-security prison then none of that would happen.
You really think no mass murders have happen because you queen made something illegal?

Just like there are no ODs because drugs are illegal? Very pathetic…:\
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I agree totally. Guns dont kill people, people kill people.
Hitler disarmed his people before he started his reign.

oh yeah and Xorkoth, nobody is starting a fight, just a bit of relevant discussion.
 
this is a sad situation, not only because of the obvious injury/possible fatality, but the fact that hiss thinks its that much more of a reason to carry a gun on psychadelics. Although i do have to say the only thing more dumb than that is messing with a gun on alcohol.

Hiss this is to you, Even though i have my feelings about guns i do see how if i were in your shoes i would think it was a good thing that you had the gun that time. But if you ever had a bad trip or if pstd presents itself during a trip to make it "bad", having a gun is going to do harm. Even if you think you have control over the situation just know the psychadelic can make you it's puppet. A bad trip and a gun combined might lead to you blowing your own head off cause you think it will never end.

If a situation arises where you are about to blow your own head off in a psychadelic hell, you beter have a friend with a gun to point it at you and try to convince yourself not to blow your own head off....lol BE CAREFUL MAN
 
luckytaak said:
Rolls you have no guns in Australia because you were a prison colony and prisoners aren’t allowed guns. You guys aren’t prisoners anymore don’t you think it is about time to ask for some rights?
Oh that’s right you have a queen or a magistrate she probably won’t give you any rights you are just a servant to her. So sad.
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wow that is just an incredible example of your stupidity mate, Id rather not get into a nation versus nation spat because in reality Aus and US have more in common than not but this is a point on which Im glad here in Oz we dont have guns in the hands of almost everyone.

More guns more violence more potential for accidents more reason to say hey I need a gun also more people getting shot it's as fucking simple as that. We here in Australia are as free as a bird and have no need for a gun whatsoever, so who feels more like a prisoner now buddy?
 
^^ well its kind of cool to carry a gun, knowing you can stop any threat, human or not. and now that i've gotten over the trauma of the experience i think it would be pretty thrilling and awesome to get into a shootout with bad guys. too see a sub-par human scum having a purplish-pink cloud of goo fly out the back of their head resulting from a simple pull of a lever would be a great reward of gun ownership.
 
The problem is that the "bad" in "bad guys" is relative. And deciding who deserves to live and die is far beyond the responsibility or right of any person.
 
of course, i mean here in total self defense. bad meaning anyone wishing or intending harm, or indicating they may use force, on you or someone innocent.
 
~_Hiss_~ said:
of course, i mean here in total self defense. bad meaning anyone wishing or intending harm, or indicating they may use force, on you or someone innocent.
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Are you going to shoot someone that is just going to punch you?

I would never want to trip with anyone who felt the need to carry a gun if we were anywhere near civilization.

Those guys probably would have driven off anyways after realizing they shot your friend accidentally. I think you said they didn't aim at you guys and they were stray BB's. That being known I don't think they would have continued firing to try to kill you.
 
Xorkoth said:
The problem is that the "bad" in "bad guys" is relative. And deciding who deserves to live and die is far beyond the responsibility or right of any person.
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I'd like to know if you've seen the movie "M"
 
Xorkoth said:
The problem is that the "bad" in "bad guys" is relative. And deciding who deserves to live and die is far beyond the responsibility or right of any person.
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Whay U say sounds good but when it comes to "rights" U run into a very grey area. Sure, peace, love & freedom but if someone interferes with my freedom and life, their freedom/life may end.

Sure, U should be allowed to be as crazy & free as can be but if U enslave others, restrict their freedoms or are a burden to society (parasite) U may be lose your freedom/life.

For example, if there was a cult in your community that conspired to rip U off with their trickery should they be allowed to live in your community or be deported?

"Right" exists in your conscience. If someone doesn't have a conscience, what do U do? Creat laws that infringes on conscientious ppl.

I dunno, I know in my heart that rights exist but when U try to codify "rights" into laws (like Jesus and Ezekiel spoke about, if they existed) we end up with what we have today. The Law, as Jesus said, is a burden, a yoke that the lawmakers/hypocrites break themselves!

BTW: I own several guns, legally, and am NOT afraid to use them! Wars should never happen. Most wars are caused for the sake of getting money.
 
colors said:
when are you going to need to 'drop a bear/mountain lion'? when you're roasting your fucking weenies at midnight? give me a break. get a dog and some spray. gun toting psychos. live by the sword die by the sword.
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You're a fucking idiot if you think a dog and spray is gonna stop a bear.

I'm not a big, strong guy by any means but I've had a can of bear mace unloaded right into my face and kept fighting through it.

If a 5'10, 145lb teenager can take bear mace, then surely a bear can as well.

Hiss, I'm right there with you on about everything. The only difference between me and you is I would not have stopped firing until i was 100% positive the man with the shotgun was dead. Not because I'm a violent person (which, admittedly, I am, I've come to terms with that and take counseling) but simply because of the danger of the situation. If a gun is ever drawn on me at any point in my life and I'm carrying also, you can bet the other person will end up with a hole in their head.

That's just basic self-preservation.
 
vacathizzle said:
That's just basic self-preservation.
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How is that self preservation if you end up in jail getting fucked up the ass for 25 years?
 
If shots are fired at you and you return fire, killing or injuring someone in self defense, there's a chance you'll end up in jail, but with that many witnesses and the obvious factor of IT WAS SELF DEFENSE will probably leave you pretty clean, as far as the law goes.

And from the time I've spent in jails, i've never once had anyone attempt to "fuck me in the ass."
 
Update

The guy who owns the shotgun, the same guy being charged with assault with a deadly weapon, has created an elaborate story that we fired down at them first, as warning shots since they wouldn't leave after we asked. And they have brought up the LSD consumption and said we were carrying on like maniacs.

The D.A. is on D's side trying to get the shotgun shooter charged, but is going against a sneaky ass lawyer coming up with lies for defenses.
 
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