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LSD - Semi-experienced - Where Is My Mind

Dekanozov

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Hey, I'm brand new here.
A friend recommended that I post here, and that you guys may have some insight as to what the hell happened to me.
PLEASE feel free to ask questions and I will answer them ASAP. I know there are loads of details I may have forgotten.
As a quick background, I have done acid many times in the past, and I have never felt anything like this before. I took one tab on a whim last night, not expecting it to do anything, as it was from a rather shifty source and had had little to no impact on a friend in the past. As alluded to in the following e-mail, I do have psychiatric issues. I think that may have caused some of what I experienced, but again I have no fucking idea.
The following is an exact copy-paste of the e-mail I sent to my friend about what I experienced.


"to start this off, i have to say that this is just me explaining this within available language.
i am not going to be able to truly convey what i experienced, probably not ever. it was unlike anything i have ever felt or even imagined.
at times it was like being in a big-budget amusement park ride. sometimes it felt like i was trapped in a fractal, or i was part of the fractal. i would even go as far as to say as i experienced death, or death as a mortal mind can process. "death" happened more than once.
this might get long, so sorry in advance.
the more i really think about this, the more i wonder if i had some kind of psychotic break, because i don't know if lsd by itself is capable of invoking some of the things that i felt.
i wrote a few pages of dialogue before i started peaking, none of it makes sense all together. it's just weird paragraphs of what i assume is people talking. i wasn't thinking when i wrote any of it, it was just spirit writing, in a sense.
"all actions are premeditated, moving in a circle. you will find the killer if you keep working in a circular fashion. i hope one day you will recall my advice, it's all i could ever hope for. you do remember what i told you, right? i'm certain of it. i know you remember. you have to! this isn't just fun and games kid. you have to know. your life may be on the fucking line"
that's just one block of text, i wont bore you with the rest.
i can't really describe the majority of this within any reasonable timeline, so i will just type out the notes i took on the train. i'm probably forgetting a lot. keep in mind that this was all VERY real. again i think this may have been influenced by my awful brain chemistry triggered by the dose, or something. i really wasn't expecting it to do anything, and i had even taken vyvanse earlier. i also took my meds before it really hit me. shit was STRONG.
i hope you can see the drawing i attached, it's of the 'ice colosseum' and a little guy who i refer to as "!!!" i will explain both of these in a second.
this song (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unuQ8D93RxE) stands out as being really important too. it's kind of shitty in retrospect, but it stands out.
for most of this i was laying on my bed in the dark with my ipod on shuffle. for awhile i was hoping that SOMEONE would wake up, just so i could ask them to confirm that i existed. but then i rationalized that non-existence is what i've always wanted, so i accepted it and it became comfortable.
if you want to know any more about any particular thing just ask me and i might be able to describe it better. i know i'm leaving out a lot, and there is tons that i cannot explain. this was a metal and physical experience. i could feel things entering through my eyes, my skin, etc. i could not look at anything without becoming attached to it by fractals. i say fractals, but that's really just the closest word i can use to explain it. it was bizarre.
surprise! it's "!!!"! i drew a quick sketch of !!!. he came up A LOT. out of nowhere. i would be traveling to the end of the fractal and he would pop out and voices (including his) would say "surprise! it's !!!" the use of !!! is just a representation of the sound that !!! made. !!! represents a sound that i could best show in onomatopoeia as "llaym!" or "nyalym!" i will have to make the sound for you. so anyway, every time i would see this guy, he says "surprise! it's NYALYM!" I think !!! was born out of a poster i have of a pot leaf in my closet. !!! kind of looks like a pot leaf. from my train notes: "nobody really likes !!!. but he pops out with out warning."
the pot leaf was kind of a common theme for part of the trip. things would all turn into a pot leaf, but a totally symmetrical one, if that makes sense. the leaves would all flash off one by one until there was nothing but black. sometimes after they finished the rotation, !!! would pop up and yell. !!! ALWAYS announced his appearance. i felt slightly threatened by him. god this makes me sound so fucking dumb and crazy. but i'm both so who fucking cares.
anyhow.
here's my notes transcribed exactly.
"standing in a fractal. the russians are keeping the universe under wraps. feeling things under and all around my body, felt the black end of life two or three, several times. ice colosseum, going into battle. becoming the room, watching myself speaking and becoming philosophy, image and object, moving as a fractal. speaking image, rather, image flowing from me, into the air. the air becomes "me", "me" does not exist. blackness with light points. floating. moving disrupts the universe into frustration. all is one. surprise! it's !!! ! speaking flowing philosophy. the room moves thru me, i am everything and nothing. in the blackness. ice stadium flows with me until the blackness falls and there is no existence. the music has been written as an instruction to some duty i must carry out. getting up and moving things. moving abruptly, with out notice. going from standing in one place to laying on the bed. lights go on and off."
to explain some: (christ this is getting long and i've barely explained it...)
the ice stadium was a massive, seemingly endless, blue stadium. i was floating in a layer of it. the ice moved all around my body. i could feel it underneath me, flowing toward the centre of the stadium. that's me in a tiny portion of it in the drawing, just so you get an idea. i was going into battle but i was not scared. the ice stadium was eventually taken over by death, i never actually fought anything.
death flowed into several of the 'worlds' i traveled through. death was just blackness, and not at all scary. it would start in the middle of my consciousness and slowly spiral out, crushing everything silently until everything was black. sometimes i would just not exist for a few seconds, but i would slowly encounter a new area. sometimes i would become a part of the universe and just bounce around in the blackness with other beings who i could sense but not see.
sometimes things would get trapped in death's path but they would slowly be crushed out too. it's so vivid in my mind, but i can't describe it right.
i "felt" physically a lot of things. 'philosophy', or the physical embodiment of it, would flow out of me, out of my control. other times i would become a part of the room, and i would have to exist as a picture, or a wall, and the spirit of the object would occupy my physical body. i FELT this shit. i can still feel it, in a sense of remembrance, when i think about it now. it makes me feel kind of uncomfortable.
it takes a lot to scare me, but i feel a little worried that i now know all the inner workings of the entire universe, or at least some of them. i feel like a lot of what i experienced i wasn't ever meant to see or feel. like i tapped into god's inner workings.
i actually experienced being converted into a computer. a wave scanned over the entire room, evaluating it and digitalizing it. it was a wall of green that slowly passed over everything. when it passed over my eyes i saw what looked like the numbers from the matrix flowing. (i hate the matrix, i don't know if there is a name for those green numbers or not) it was like i was being recorded into a computer. ugh... i can FEEL this when i think about it, but i can't accurately describe it.
this is getting long and i'm sorry but i am not going to proof read it, so i hope it makes sense.
one last big thing was that i would be standing up, with the lights on, looking at something, and the next thing i knew i would be laying in bed with the lights off. or the other way around. i didn't remember touching the lights or getting up and down. that kind of bugs me, and i'm glad nothing bad happened to me.
the whole thing was so real. i feel like it was real.
i think my schizo lobe got set off, or something. maybe i was having a stroke or stopped breathing or something. maybe this is all totally normal and i've just been frying wrong all these years. at times it felt close to an intense salvia trip, but not as scary (once i accepted what was going on)
okay stopping now. please feel free to ask me more details or to fill in the gaps or whatever. i am leaving out quite a lot.
this whole email makes me sound like i'm fucking insane. maybe i am.
i hope this shit makes sense to you.
SURPRISE! it's !!! !!!"

What does this sound like to you guys? Any thoughts?
Thanks for reading, it means a lot.
 
This is the crude MSPaint drawing that I mentioned in the e-mail.

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[I'm the aforementioned friend and this was my reply to the initial email, in case anyone wants to work from my suggestions..]

It sounds a lot like how i've heard people describe dmt or even salvia like you said. Obviously it wouldn't've lasted longer than a few minutes if it was dmt, plus the oral dose.. You get my point. It also sounds like datura in a way, without all the uncomfortableness. The only thing i could even begin to compare it to would be the horrific trip i had on dramamine or 2ct7, wherein i would imagine i was in a bunch of bizarre situations but actually feel like i was there, conversing with people in nonsensical sentences.. I don't even know if my eyes were open or closed when all this was happening but then i'd snap out of it and be like 'that wasn't real? Well, it didn't make much sense'. Obviously neither of those experiences completely encompasses what you experienced, just certain parts are similar.

It also kinda sounds like some parts of what i hear pcp can be like.. But the weird thing is that none of this happened to me when i took it ["it" being the same tab of acid, from the same batch]. Granted, [when i took it] i was just online talking to people and my mind was totally not on the trip at all. I really wonder what would've happened if i put myself in the same setting as you.
Idk what to tell you, my guess is that it was a combination of your meds interacting with the acid, and the acid interacting with how your meds have altered your brain, if that makes sense- i suppose in a way that might be considered a psychotic break, or maybe just what is actually going on when people think they're having a psychotic break on psychedelics, if THAT makes sense.

[that being said, I'm surprised no one has replied to this yet; hopefully this bumps it back into relevance.
ALSO, if this trip continues to bug you (or rather, significantly sticks with you), maybe you could post a 'concerned-about-your-psychological-well-being' thread in The Dark Side, linking to this as reference. I dunno, just a suggestion.

Also, as an afterthought, your email/report is similar to how a lot of people have described DXM trips to me. I've NEVER felt dissociated to the point of hallucinating (and I've robotripped dozens of times) but I have heard this kind of thing from that kind of drug experience. One friend even described hallucinating that he was standing in some Mayan ruins..on Ketamine. So the whole dissociative aspect was definitely there for you, and I imagine that probably had to do with your brain rather than the drug itself - if anyone else can comment further on this, I'm interested to see if this is actually the case.

As a final note, Dekanozov, maybe you want to list what psych drugs you're on just to get the ball rolling on THAT topic, because I'm sure people will be curious about the interactions there.]
 
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Dekanozov, you had an LSD trip. Is this your first time? Maybe you usually underdose...
 
Dekanozov, you had an LSD trip. Is this your first time? Maybe you usually underdose...

Did you read my post? I mentioned I've done it MANY times before.
What I experienced was unlike anything I or anyone I've spoken to about this have felt.
 
Yeah my point was that I don't think you or anyone you spoken to has really understood how intense the psychedelic experience is. What you experienced is what everyone was getting from LSD back in the 60s when hits were 250ug each. That's what the peak is always supposed to be like...

If it hasn't been, you've all been taking too little!
 
I get what you are saying and I can see how you might glean that from my post, but I'm still going to have to disagree. I don't think that everyone I've spoken to or heard speak about any hallucinogens has been taking too little. That even includes people who were actually around in the 60s.
Not that it really matters, but I have been reading books and speaking to people about LSD for years and taking it for even longer.
I have taken extremely large doses of different psychedelic drugs and have never achieved anything such as this.

Sure maybe I've been doing it wrong. But I still do not understand what happened to me.
 
yep sounds like you were tripping balls. There really isn't any set experience you can have with psycs especially high dose, like how you know every time you take oxycodone you have an idea of how the experience will be. I had a crazy trip like that on some shit that was supposed to be mescaline but was some RC, really weird and bizarre like you describe. Maybe you got an RC instead of lsd, I've never done lsd so I can't really comment.
 
lol just saw the drawing of nlaym!!!, thats kinda funny. Obviously not funny if its freaking you out after the fact, my trip kinda did too, you should feel fine in a couple days though, most of us can relate to how intense that experience can be and personally I wasn't right for a couple days afterwards. I was actually having a great time till the friends I was with went to bed and I was alone tripping sack then things took a turn for the weird haha.
 
Set and setting has allot to do with it, and the dose taken.
I would think taking a large dose; sitting in front of a computer talking with people will keep you focus on that task, so your not really letting go, or fully giving in to the experience per se.

Or like laying in bed in a darken room listening to music giving into the experience will and can make you go so much deeper. Your not trying to maintain reality and keep a conversation going, like i said in the above paragraph.

And the music selection also has allot to do with a trip too, some songs can send you over the edge, creep you out or bring or trigger complete bliss etc...

Solo trips within the right set and setting good music can really take you there to the other world so to speak.

I enjoyed your post
Namaste
 
Thanks man

Great trip report, although I dont really have any advice for you. Good luck.
 
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