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LSD - Leaky Vial Damage Control, Seeking Advice

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yearofglad

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The short: What is the best way to recover LSD when it's fallen out of solution? What exactly is the mechanism of LSD falling out of solution?

Today I found myself in the position to acquire LSD in solution (~100 hits). As time was a factor in this transacation, I was unable to properly store it before recieving it (it was placed in what amounted to a large jelly jar). I wrapped this in aluminum foil tape and placed it in my freezer soon after.

I'm not sure what solvent was used, but I assumed that it would be fairly volatile. I figured I had at least 24 hours to transfer it to proper vials, which I then went to secure.

Approximately four hours later, I returned with two glass vials with a strong seal, a pipette, and rubber gloves. Upon removing the jar from the freezer, I found that an alarmingly large amount of the solvent had evaporated (nearly 80% ). I knew the excess surface area would be a concern, but wasn't prepared for this much evaporation. After carefully transferring the jars contents to one of the vials (appx 10-20mL), I was left with a 'slimy' jelly jar, which I also re-stored.

Now my questions are:

What is the best way to recover the leftover LSD from the jar? I think there might have been some 'slosh', as in, the sides and cover are wet, meaning that there could be LSD crystals all over the walls, not just the bottom. I could re-fill the jar with another solvent all the way up, but then I'd be left with an extremely dilute solution. Of course, I could let some of that evaporate off, but then some LSD would again crystallize along the walls, and I'd be in the same boat. Should I just try to live with a highly dilute solution?

What is the mechanism of action of LSD falling out of solution? Now, the concentration I recovered is certainly a greater concentration than what I started with, but how much? I'm assuming at least half, because I'm not sure how much 'stuck to the walls' of the jar. It's also possible I made up this entire wall-crystallization business. When I eventually use this solution, I'll assume all hundred doses are in there until I learn otherwise, but would anyone have a good ballpark estimate? I didn't see any sign of saturation.

Thanks!
 
If there's visible slime stuck to the side of the jar, it's not LSD....you couldn't find anything better to put it in?
 
By slime I don't mean dirt/food residue, I mean that it's covered with solvent. The jar itself was very clean, and had never been used for food.
 
I would swish as little amount of solvent in the jar as possible, and use something that evaporates. Possibly ISO-Alcohol.. not sure how well that works for LSD though. Then just evaporate in a flat surface, redilute with a smaller amount of a safe solvent and measure out an amount of liquid for easy dosing.


If it's 100 hits, I would try 100ml of water so 1ml is 1 dose
 
Does / did the liquid not smell like alcohol? That is probably the solvent that was used considering that water would have frozen and most other things are not suited for consumption.

I find it very doubtful that you would see crystallized LSD, 100 doses of about 100 micrograms is 10 mg. That small amount should be no problem to dissolve in whatever small volume of liquid was left, in other words: you would not reach the saturation point.

Restoring the solution is easy if you know the original level of liquid, you just fill up again to where it used to be. You would only be off by an error margin that corresponds to, well obviously to how well you remember the initial level of liquid.
If the original solvent was ethanol (alcohol), you just add distilled / demineralized water. Otherwise you add vodka or everclear / potable alcohol.

I don't quite understand how you put the liquid in the jelly jar - you just put it in directly without a vessel? To amount to an extremely shallow little bit of liquid? Oh boy, well in that case of course judging the level of the liquid is impossible. It must have attracted condensation. How clean was the jelly jar?

I would put an exactly known amount of solvent (again: non-tap water and/or alcohol) in the jelly jar, as little as possible, the swirl it around to dissolve any LSD. I am not sure if pooling the liquids at that point is a good idea but I guess you'd better add them together. Then weigh the total. Transfer the liquid to another container and weigh again. Subtract the values and use the known weight of the added solvent. Judge what the original solvent was and get a value for the amount of liquid. That gives you the possibility to figure out the concentration - roughly - and to measure out doses.

Instead of pooling the liquids, you can also store the washing liquid in another place and proceed with the recovered solution, assuming that nothing or only 10% was lost and again figuring out the concentration and volume for dosage.

Again: I doubt LSD crashed out of solution - the recovery is rather because this all sounds really messy.
 
Thanks for your help. To answer a few questions-

I suppose it was confusing/stupid for me to say 'large jelly jar'. It was actualy a rather average/small jar (radius probably ~2 inches), and had not been used to hold food. Before transferring the liquid, I rinsed/scrubbed it with boiling water, and dried it out vigourously with paper towels. I made sure it was no longer warm before using it.

The person I bought from had a vial with a squirt top, which he just squeezed into my container. I think this ended up being around 2cm in the bottom of the jar (so geometry indicates that I got about 40mL? Stupid of me not to think about that before...).
 
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