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LSD + Ketamine + 4-Ho-MiPT - Experienced - Beautiful Chaos

thugg

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NEVER DRIVE UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF PSYCHEDELIC DRUGS UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE. IT JUST AINT NO BODIES BAG BABY!


LSD + Ketamine + 4-Ho-MiPT

At approximately 9:00 p.m. Friday night me and my GF start sucking on these 5 total doses of acid put on sweet tarts. I had them sealed tightly for a couple weeks, but they were still pretty strong (a friend that ate 2, but was constantly opening and looking at them before eating them said they weren't that good). Anyway, pop one, and as it's gone in goes the other, we split the other in half, and eat this as well.

We head to a friends house, I know the time to drive is NOW and not any later, just in case these hits are really strong or something. Other people going to be drinking, others trying to get some coke. Anyway, get to the location about ~45 minutes after starting to eat the first dose (prob took 10 minutes to suck on the 2.5 sweet tarts). A bit of getting ready, and driving over there. As we arrive I notice the first of the wonderful body high, but I'm still unsure if it's there or placebo. We smoke a blunt or some pot, and bust out 100mg of s-isomer K and she does her 40ish mg in a couple lines spaced out, I do the 60 in one line. This is roughly 1.5 hours after eating the acid. I start getting all giggly and utterly confused at EVERYTHING. Sitting thinking I'm looking for something while I'm not really doing anything.

Over the next couple hours, about 4.5-5 after dropping the L, and me doing another 150mg or so of the s-isomer spaced out about 50mg each hour. As we realize the K is running low (just another .1 bag I had weighed out), we decide the LSD and K wasn't quite enough, not as good as advertised let's say (for the L - the K was awesome as always). I carefully, prepare a capsule of 21mg 4-Ho-MiPT (fum) for my GF, and a 31mg one for myself. I pop the capsule, and chomp on it releasing the bitter powder into my mouth. She just swallows hers.

So, the timing of the night is kind of hazy, LSD and K will do that to you. But, out of what seems like nowhere I start having some of the most intense and utterly weird visuals ever. Everything was so colorful, and breathing, fractals were forming out of every object I looked at. At one point, I put a buddies hat over my face to make it a little darker for CEV, and as I put it over my face. I'm blasted into a near break-through DMT like space. I could see these amazingly beautiful geometric patterns forming, and slowly changing into double helix (like DNA, just nothing connecting the two spirals), and from center out (left and to the right) it's a rainbow with brighter yellow/red in the center and blueish-green stuff on the outside. It was amazing, I can't even describe it. Then I guess I was just doing this for 5 minutes kind of uttering nothingness to myself, then as I'm kind of leaning forward I 'snap to' (realize I'm falling forward) and come back to 'reality' which is still amazingly visual. While all my friends and GF are like "wow, what the hell is he doing?" They've seen me trip, and hard at that, but this was something different. I could open my eyes after the CEVs formed and still see them, then it turned really weird and like oil on water or something. Hard to describe.

Unfortunately for my GF, she just swallowed the capsule and as I'm coming down (not completely, but it hit me in 10 minutes, instead of 1.5 hours) from one of the best psychedelic experiences of my life, she FINALLY starts to come-up, which sucks because we miss tripping 'together' (besides the L and K all night that is). She loved it too, all she could say was "rainbow colors, and your hair is a rainbow", and a whole lot of laughing. Since I'm starting to comedown, I'm like what-ever and start eating valium like candy even though I was planning on staying up all day (dropping LSD that late at night, you can expect a long day). Anyway, I 'sober up' from the tripping thanks to the valium, enough to drive us home.

We lay down, I INSTANTLY crash, I was expecting to stay up. But on all honesty, I ate such a high amount of valium I'm surprised I stayed up that long.

I forgot to mention, during the night, the only toilet at this guys house breaks thanks to his drunk fucking ass, and whilst my GF is peaking on the miprocin and after doing a little more K, I drive her to a near gas station to use the bathroom, and to buy some Ibuprofen 'cause I had a headache. Anyway, as we get back to dudes house, he gets us in the house and is like "holy shit man, the cops are following you, I saw it all go down". Blah Blah blah goes on and on about this stupid drunken paranoia shit. Makes us keep the lights off, while my GF is peaking and wants light to see all the awesome visuals. Finally passes out. We then leave to go home.

A whole bunch of weird shit happened that night, it was crazy. The odd thing is, I originally went into the night apprehensive about tripping, even though it was Friday, it was rather late IMO to drop acid, and it didn't feel so right for me. But, my GF really wanted to, thought she could use a good trip. And it was great for the both of us, it was one of those kinds of trips like when you're young and it's all 'fun and doesn't matter'. We just had a blast, something we both needed. Unlike how I use them now, more maturely and with reason (spiritual, whatever you want to call it).

I would give this combo a thumbs up for sure, and my girlfriend definitely loved it too. Too bad that's not only basically the last of my 4-Ho-MiPT, but L RARELY comes around here, it was also the last of my K. So wont be repeating this one anytime soon, but it sure was a great one.

Sorry how there's no real time-line or structure like that to the trip report, this is my second ever and this is a couple days after this happened. A lot of things happened that night, and they all kind of blur together when trying to remember the next day, or especially a few days later. Anyway, I hope you guy's that actually read through all my bull shit enjoyed my TR, I sure as hell enjoyed experiencing it. - Okay, that should be about it. My grammar and all that shit is horrible, so I applaud any that actually read this all the way through, haha.
 
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thugg said:
LSD + Ketamine + 4-Ho-MiPT...

We head to a friends house, I know the time to drive is NOW and not any later, just in case these hits are really strong or something.


I wont preach - I'd be a hypocrit if I did but I want to say one thing:


The time to drive is always, ALWAYS before taking anything of this nature.

I understand the desire to be 'mentally where you wanna be - when you wanna be that way' but please, for all our sakes - drive first, dose second.

<DAMN, I just read the rest of your trip report...now I have to whine again:( >


thugg said:
Since I'm starting to comedown, I'm like what-ever and start eating valium like candy even though I was planning on staying up all day (dropping LSD that late at night, you can expect a long day). Anyway, I 'sober up' from the tripping thanks to the valium, enough to drive us home.


Don't ge me wrong - I know what you were thinking. The problem was, your thought process was bogus - driving BECAUSE you'd taken the valium = I'll be fine? Nope, that doesn't cut it. You said you were eating the things like candy + you've been tripping balls hours before and now you take something that'll make you unnaturally tired?


I don't hold 'permanent records' of Bluelighter mistakes and I don't want to. I'm glad you gave us an honest timeline in regards to dosing + driving...


but not every driver in a drugged state survives

I just want you to know that 'this' was/is and will always be unwise. Stay safe - be safer! Road Traffic Accidents aren't condusive to trip reports making it to the pages of BL.
 
I know, I was gonna put a part in there about not driving whilst under the influence, I ALWAYS bitch at drunk people for doing it. I mean ALWAYS, every day, so I'm a hypocrite.

But, I knew that this stuff wasn't that good, and my town is small as hell, driving from one end of city limits to the next is like a 10 minute jot. I knew there wouldn't be a problem, still, none of you should attempt this.

I'm also kind of exaggerating the 'eating valium to sober up'. I just wanted to come down, and have a reason for the GF to have to leave soon (she's still tripping, and as I stated, I'm not really - and it's late/early in the morning).

After getting back I ate more and passed the fuck out, but I have an unbelievable tolerance to benzos, so I literally have to eat them 'like candy' to get recreational effects or to sleep (like I need 5mg of xanax to try and sleep at night). - Which is why I hate benzos and rarely use them in the first place. Pfft, valium would be the least preferred come-down benzo anyway, super long half-life, active metabolites, no-thanks. Something like xanax or klonopin would have been better, but all I had was tons and tons of valium.

Anyway, I understand where you're coming from, and I'm actually glad you pointed out those mistakes so others that read will maybe not repeat them, even though you know DAMN WELL, that most all of us here have driven whilst fucked up, coming down, trashed, what have you. So we all know the risks, we just choose to do it anyway.

But, yeah, don't drink, drop, plug, smoke, blah, blah, and drive.
 
In the course of a single night, I found that LSD (around the peak) + IM ketamine took me to both a blissful heavenly place and the depths of my own personal hell (2 separate doses). Don't do this combo on a whim as it is so fuckin' intense
 
Reports like this are very disheartening to read.

Learn to respect these substances ... or at least try not to endanger the lives of others when your under the influence.
 
I know they're really isn't any justification to my actions, it was dangerous and stupid, I know this. But, I wasn't really tripping anymore, I felt just kind of 'stoned', and I drive stoned or blazed all the time no problems, as pretty much the rest of us do.. And she REALLY needed to use a bathroom, the gas station is a few blocks away, my town is small and easy to navigate.

But, like I said, I'm not going to try and justify it, it was wrong and stupid. Do not get fucked up, and drive, it's as simple as that.

But, despite all that, what do people think of the trip as a whole?

Separate - I don;t know what you mean dondante, I DO respect these substances, which is why I haven't touched them in awhile. It hasn't felt right. But it did that night, not initially, but after the LSD was a little let-down, adding the 4-Ho-MiPT was heavenly, I don't know if you think the dosages are high or if it's just because that I drove after basically being completely come-down. But, I can assure you I do respect these substances. Enough that, it almost makes me not want to use them...it's weird. I'm being offered 35mg to 'test out' some of the most beautiful DMT crystals I've ever seen, and I'm turning it down. I'm keeping the 35mg, just don't think I'll be using it right away.
 
I'm not even gonna touch on the driving thing, no point at all, the first replier said enough for all of us :)


But the trip itself sounded pretty decent. The combo would probably be a good one for me, although very intense.. Even without the K, LSD and Miprocin would totally rock my world. Then once you add my friend the Ket in... it would be an absolute mindblowing experience. No way in hell I would leave the safety of my own house.
 
If it weren't for the driving thing, I wouldn't have singled you out. I just feel like there have been a lot of "dude, guess how fucked up I got" reports recently and this didn't seem much different. Aside from the excessive and seemingly random drug intake, the fact that you decided to trip with a bunch of drunk and coked-up people is what I consider a lack of respect. BTW, driving after "eating valium like candy" might be even more dangerous than driving under the influence of a psychedelic drug.

Anyway, I suppose I'm being a little too judgemental in saying that you don't respect these substances. I'm glad you and your girlfriend had a great night. ;)
 
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Dondante said:
If it weren't for the driving thing, I wouldn't have singled you out. I just feel like there have been a lot of "dude, guess how fucked up I got" reports recently and this didn't seem much different. Aside from the excessive and seemingly random drug intake, the fact that you decided to trip with a bunch of drunk and coked-up people is what I consider a lack of respect. BTW, driving after "eating valium like candy" might be even more dangerous than driving under the influence of a psychedelic drug.

Anyway, I suppose I'm being a little too judgemental in saying that you don't respect these substances. I'm glad you and your girlfriend had a great night. ;)

No worries bro.

The driving is stupid, and we didn't expect for this drunk to be this and as much of a douchebag that night. The ones trying to get coke, never did, so just chilled with us and smoked pot, a few other friends stopped by and drank some poppy tea - all separate from the drunkards, so it wasn't a bad setting.

And I know the valium, but it barely does anything to me, and I mean that literally. I just don't know what it is, but benzos don't seem to do anything to me, I just wanted to aid in the come-down from the L and miprocin.

And the choice wasn't random, I heard the L wasn't the greatest, so I decided to bring all the K I had (400mg), to peak it up a bit, and after we went through the first 300mg pretty fast, and weren't quite where we wanted to be, I had brought the miprocin for just such an event. I had a feeling the L might be a let down, so I wanted a 'back-up', and it turned out to be a wonderful combination.

But I'll say it one more time too, don't drive under the influence. Just don't.
 
thugg said:
But I'll say it one more time too, don't drive under the influence. Just don't.

I think you did a good job of recognising your error and holding your hands up to it.

To have actually gone back, edit your original post and put the admission/important message right at the top - that to me, is what BL is about.:)


Overall, I think you showed some respect for the drugs you were taking but underestimated the need for some 'no responsibilities, nothing required...nada' part afterwards. I know that some people almost exclusively trip together but you should give some solo sessions a chance - self exploration without any interuptions can:

(take you to)
fastandbulbous said:
both a blissful heavenly place and the depths of my own personal hell (2 separate doses). Don't do this combo on a whim as it is so fuckin' intense

I've twice found myself in a similar personal hell - soliutude and the knowledge of 24 hours worth of privacy saved me the second time.

The first involved a roomful of strangers whose voices I couldn't understand (I 'forgot' english...in essence) and later having to sleep in a cross-legged sitting position (the floor was occupied by sleeping bodies) My best friend was sat next to me and I was thinking if you cant stay still...if your knee touches me again...I WILL, I absolutely WILL FUCKING KILL YOU.

<8o Makes me shudder just recalling/writing it because the mindset was so fucking volatile>

By morning, I had somehow re-distributed other sleepers between myself and the one single bed in the room, thrown the owner onto the floor and then passed out. To wake me up hours later, people were taking it in turns to kick, punch and slap me. It was clear I was breathing as normal ,and - from reports, it almost became a game to see who could hit me hard enough to wake me.

That's why the second time involved deadlocked doors and disconnected phones. There's no reason for dwelling on 'worst case scenarios' but just because you haven't had one yourself, don't ever forget they exist:|
 
The driving thing aside, I enjoyed this report. I can understand the desire to add more drugs, as when I am using psychedelics frequently I often do that, too. Although I stay at home! :)

Anyway, thanks for the report. I was a bit surprised at the level of opposition shown you here, considering the number of "whoa dude, I'm fucked up and did reckless things" reports that we sometimes get, which go without so much comment. But I guess it's just because you're not some random Greenlighter high school kid. You're part of the community so we care. <3
 
Thanks guys, yes it's important for me to express how careless it was to drive, and to get the message out to fellow BL'rs to not repeat the same mistake.

Anyway, about the personal tripping - I love to and have done so, just not in awhile. I really haven't 'felt' like tripping, but my GF did on a whim, and I had the doses of L sitting around probably degrading, so we made the decision we wanted to trip (the thought had been floating around in our minds all day - we were wishy-washy about it).

Oh and spellman, I didn't re-edit my post and put that in, a moderator did, but all the same, I was going to put a part in there about not driving, just forgot.

Anyway, thanks for the bitching at me guys (no, really, you really shouldn't get fucked up and drive - simple as that), but also thanks for those of you that enjoyed my report.

And again, we went to hang out, not expecting all this shit to go down, it's just part of the weirdness of tripping. We expected him to be drinking, and pretty much in the living room not bothering us, but whole bunches of weird stuff were happening that night, very strange one indeed.
 
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