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LSD has it flaws??

LucidShroomDmtier

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Once i were triping on acid and an epipathy arouse to me that this expirience lacks something that the substance is acctually giving me a flawed expirience and then i thought of DMT the natural molecule and i havent acctually tried this expirience and i think it acctually have not this flaw . and now am asking you if there is point in my questioning.or it was just tripy paranoia??
 
There's no such thing as a perfect experience, so every experience is flawed. I would have though this was obvious to even the most ardent fan of LSD.

As simple as that.
 
so my next question does dmt provide much more profound natural deep question answering question arising expirience??
 
have you considered the possibility that perhaps every trip you have had was not acid but some type of RC?
 
RC???/??? it tasted like strychnine the worst case no taste at all best stuff .lasted always more than 9 hours -14h i think i got the legitimate lsd .
 
If you are referring to "natural" in the sense that natural = spiritual = godly or something "true" beyond this world, I'm afraid we simply don't have the answer to that.

Some people think that only mushrooms, cactus, and other living sources of drugs are able to connect your mind with the spiritual world to speak with God. Perhaps the plant or mushroom is the "guide" to help your soul journey to the other realm. In this viewpoint, LSD or 2C-I are imperfect man-made robots that are unable to truly empathize with the whole emotional release that the psychedelic experience can cause.

On the other hand, there are chemists who will say that I can compare DMT from a plant, and DMT that was built step-by-step from methane and ammonia, and find them to be 100.00% identical in every chemical test. So where is the spiritual component of the drug found? Is it possible that God exists within yourself, and the source of the chemical is irrelevant? Alexander Shulgin certainly believed that the true power of a drug was not found in its history or botanical origin-- he probably strode forward with the belief that Man and God and Intelligence are all parts of the same Truth, and if it is possible to create a drug in a laboratory using education and fire and sulphur, then it can be every bit as worthwhile of an experience as the drug that was "born from mother earth".

Personally I am of the opinion that every experience is a beautiful miracle, whether it involves a plant-derived drug, a synthetic compound, or no drug at all. I have certainly had spiritual experiences without the aid of Brother Mushroom. But I will agree that there is something (not physically detectable in the body of mushrooms themselves) tied to the whole experience of getting my body in tune with the seasons, going outside on a rainy October day, allowing my skin to become soaked and humid like the Flesh of God itself, and listening to the trees, birds, and insects to direct me where I may find the forbidden fruits waiting for me. Indeed my most intensely spiritual and emotional mushroom trips did involve this type of meditation in order to harvest the mushrooms, and I dare say that meditation was crucial in creating the set and setting! Certainly I would not have been walking around in the twilight rain sniffing the dirt and getting spores in my fingernails if I was going to swallow a vial of 2C-I!
 
i think you need to rethink the whole tripping experience and what you want to get from it. it is never the substance that gives the experience, but rather the whole of your mind body set nd setting together with the chemical.... i thought this was rather obvious after the first trips...

as such there isnt such a thing as the perfect experience unless you create it. and this can happen with lsd dmt or whatever rc you may choose... so to think that dmt will give you a different experience and make your mind think deeper or more meaningful experiences is a rather peculiar way of thinking about things.

i hope you find what you are looking for, but id recommend you read up a bit more, maybe try some meditation or read up on various phillosophies that may be a better guide than just a different drug...

there are plenty of people that think lsd gives a really rounded experience.....
 
LSD might not fit your particular criteria in which you'd like to experience from psychedelics. Tryptamines in general seem to have a much more earthy/primal overtone to them (i.e. shrooms, DMT, etc). However, you may want to dabble in the rest of the classics to find out which one suits you. Some people swear by mescaline, others shrooms, though in my instance, it's the LSD sonnnnnnn
 
In my opinion LSD is only slightly flawed by both duration and physical side effects.

DMT is heavily flawed by its short duration (when smoked) and uncomfortable body feeling. Burning skin is what it feels like to me.

4-ho-DMT is the most perfect psychedelic I have tried with what I consider to be a perfect duration (lasts an evening), minimal side effects, and all the depth of DMT in a time frame that is better suited towards potentially learning anything from it.
 
Lol how do you know what rat poison tastes like?

How else do you test if it works...?


Reality is what you perceive, and if you can only see something for 8 hours at a time, is it real? I would say yes, it is. Most people who have done acid report a life changing experience. Others would disagree, they would say it shows you false things, and I disagree with that.

LSD will show you what you want to know, it depends what you do with that power while your on it that makes it "real" or not
 
well, if you can go on thinking all experience is flawed, then you might as well go on saying all experience is perfect.... im really not getting the point of this thread...
even more so when talking about the flaws of a chemical. a chemical that does what it says on the tin each and every time, and only a subjective experience varies with it. and this holds true for all chemicals out there, natural or extracted.

so what are the lsd's flaws? too long a duration? too much body load?... are these flaws? or features? or just individual taste ...
 
4-ho-DMT is the most perfect psychedelic I have tried with what I consider to be a perfect duration (lasts an evening), minimal side effects, and all the depth of DMT in a time frame that is better suited towards potentially learning anything from it.

This is one I still want to try. (actually I was thinking 4-ACO-DMT) Most of the others I just don't want to put myself through it, mostly because of my weak body and conditions involving pain. This one just seems like it'd be ok.


As for "flawed" and no such thing as a perfect experience... just my 2 cents. Every experience you have might be considered perfect. It's up to you. Even getting your legs chopped off in some freak accident might be a perfect experience (for getting your legs chopped off in some freak accident). But more, every experience you have is a springboard for the next.

Is LSD flawed? I wouldn't call it that, but it can't be perfect, I wouldn't say, as it is a drug that people choose to use multiple times. If it weren't flawed, we might need just one dose to see the light, and stay in it. But then, that might be on us. Then it might never be illegal, either...

but then again, maybe it's perfect in other ways. maybe the bowl needs stirring.
 
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