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Lsd and breastfeeding

I Hope She Has Fun :)

It can't
be that rare
of an occasion if she's breastfeeding...

Are you jus' trollin'...?

Look - solution found
(pardon, again :)).

Your ethical opinion has nothin' to do with a technical question.

(Sorry,
I bit...)

There was no reference to repeatin' said action,
an' assumption does what?

So,
Be Quite.

UnS
:)
 
Thank you all so much for the helpful answers. I'm going to tell her that her best bet, if she does decide to, is to not breastfeed for ~2 days afterwords, and to pump out whatever milk is there right after, and to have either some formula, or some spare milk pumped out beforehand for use during those 2 days.

Glad we could be a bit of a help... honestly I think that 2 days w/o breast feeding is a bit excessive... 1 day would be fine, like IGNVS said she could probably feed 6 hours into the trip with no effects passed on to the infant but I would go 24 hours to be safe.

Love and Lite <3 Tell her to enjoy herself :)
 
well you couldnt stop breast feeding the baby for a week or 2 after youve taken the acid? I mean, it would all be completely out of system by then surely(and milking yourself and disguarding it in that 1-2 weeks to get rid of any tainted milk?).

Eitherway, a mate of mine ate heaps of acid when he was quite young.. his mother was an acid dealer and left it out and long story short he ate like, a sheet worth or something crazy(and yes ive talked to his mum and she confirms this lol). He seems relativly normal.. id say the things that ARE wrong with him are from other drugs/other things.
 
i was never breastfed, but then again im really fucked up in the head >.<
 
I'Mean C'Mon, Man!

well you couldnt stop breast feeding the baby for a week or 2 after youve taken the acid?*
I mean, it would all be completely out of system by then surely
(and milking yourself and disguarding it in that 1-2 weeks to get rid of any tainted milk?).

Eitherway,
a mate of mine ate heaps of acid when he was quite young..
his mother was an acid dealer
and left it out and long story short he ate like,
a sheet worth or something crazy
(and yes ive talked to his mum and she confirms this lol).
He seems relativly normal..
id say the things that ARE wrong with him are from other drugs/other things.

Why issit,
that now I've start postin'
relatively normal,
that peeps like you canna even string a simple set
of ideas together
inna 2 paragraph post?

Have you read the other posts*?

Have you look'd at the studies*
on turn-over*
an' half-life of LSD*,

"Are you bringin' any food or vegetable matter onto the planet?"
"Tooowoooo Weeeeeeeks"


You More Think=Less UnSquare Drink....

PEACE
:\
UnS
:)
 
While not LSD this may still be useful.



That's a little more than 0.1% of the weight in the milk, anyone know if other drugs compare?
If lsd does have similar absorbtion it would be present in sub-microgram amounts.

something seems off about that....

Who the hell did they inject with 100mg of LSD?
 
Why issit,
that now I've start postin'
relatively normal,
that peeps like you canna even string a simple set
of ideas together
inna 2 paragraph post?

Have you read the other posts*?

Have you look'd at the studies*
on turn-over*
an' half-life of LSD*,

"Are you bringin' any food or vegetable matter onto the planet?"
"Tooowoooo Weeeeeeeks"


You More Think=Less UnSquare Drink....

PEACE
:\
UnS
:)

2vkc282.jpg



looks like 2 fucking punctuated paragraphs to me mate, wtf are you on about?
 
I was not trying to flame anyone. The woman should be thinking about her newborn child instead of the last time she got high and her want to go out and party. If I had a child, there would be no drug use at all. I would be home holding my baby and reading.

Sigh. Aren't you just the perfect human being. Who are you to judge? Some people have a natural propensity to take drugs, its in their genes. If someone can abstain for 9 months I say fuckin' good job to them. No offense Mr Jack Jones, but there is a lot you have left to learn about life.
 
ya pretty fucked how anyone can actually criticise a mother for wanting some acid.

I mean fuck its pretty hard earned acid if you ask me.
 
"well you couldnt stop breast feeding the baby for a week or 2 after youve taken the acid? I mean, it would all be completely out of system by then surely(and milking yourself and disguarding it in that 1-2 weeks to get rid of any tainted milk?)."


Actually, while breastfeeding it is not recommended to stop for more than 24 hours. You can, but it is incredibly difficult. You see, the infant suckling at the breast is what tells the mammary glands to produce milk. When the infant stops suckling at the breast as often, even just one time less a day, the breasts respond by making less milk.

Theoretically, the mother could pump the milk and discard it, but realistically speaking, it is incredibly difficult to keep that up, because it doubles the time needed to feed the baby. First, you must feed the baby with a bottle, then you must pump the milk from your breast in order to make sure the breast receives the signal to continue producing milk. There is also no guarantee this will work either, because unless the mother has a top-of-the-line hospital grade pump, even just pumping for a few days it is likely she will lose some milk because the pump cannot extract the milk as well as the infant can. 2 weeks is a very long time to do this, as is even a week.

I have a six month old baby that I breast fed exclusively (no bottles) until he was 4 months old. When he was 4 months old, we went on vacation and had to drive 10 hours to visit family, and I was unable to breastfeed him in the car on the way down and had to use bottles. Just that one day of driving, then the second day of driving back a week later, took my milk down enough that I had to start giving him formula a few times a day because I no longer produce enough to meet his nutritional needs and he was losing weight.

I know the OP was created a very long time ago and this may or may not have already happened, but for others out there wondering the same thing, I say if you are going to act irresponsibly why not take the opportunity to be irresponsible in a responsible way (as in, while the child is gone)?

At least the mother who posted this, like myself, waited through her pregnancy and also until a time when her child will not be around. Yes, we are parents, but we are still adults with desires as well.=D

Daisy
 
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I was not trying to flame anyone. The woman should be thinking about her newborn child instead of the last time she got high and her want to go out and party. If I had a child, there would be no drug use at all. I would be home holding my baby and reading.

Your hypothetical justification amuses me greatly. Maybe you should get an idea before you start posting?
 
I would definately stray away from psychedelics and as many drugs as possible while breastfeeding.
 
I would definately stray away from psychedelics and as many drugs as possible while breastfeeding.

I would say the same thing if I'd actually breastfed a baby and spent copious amounts of time over an extremely long period of times (anything like 6 months where you're CONSTANTLY required is a LONG time) and not even considered using any drug whatsoever. Of course, I'm smart enough to realise that I'm not capable of that, I don't need the opportunity to prove myself right about that.

All the OP did was say that someone who is breastfeeding is considering the use of a psychedelic drug. They didn't say they took it, then asked if it was a bad idea did they? That's called being responsible. Why make stupid comments about people who are being responsible? Go hunt someone who deserves it with your righteous indignation.

Note: I hate people who say "I would do this" in a situation where they have absolutely no clue what they would really do, just their magical dreamland in their head of what they think is "right". If you have in fact breastfed a child, I will retract my comments. However, I find this terribly unlikely.
 
In my ever-present search for knowledge, I decided to look as far into this as I could with the help of my computer, because I am curious to know the answer. My son takes enough from a bottle that he can go without breastfeeding for 24 hours now, but I am sure there are other mothers out there who may be more embarrassed than I to post here who may be looking for information.

Here are some things I found:

About drugs in general and breastfeeding:
The issue of which drugs are safe to take during lactation is quite complicated. Many factors must be taken into consideration, such as... The route of administration (your baby is always exposed through the GI tract, but drugs can enter your system several different ways: orally, intravenously, intramuscularly, topically, or through inhalation – topical medications (skin creams) and medications inhaled or applied to the eyes or nose reach the milk in lesser amounts and more slowly than other routes and are almost always safe for nursing mothers; oral medications take longer to get into the milk than IV and IM routes (the drug must first go through the mother’s GI tract before it enters the bloodstream, and the milk supply)–with IV drugs, the medications bypasses the barriers in the GI tract to enter the milk quickly and at higher levels, and with IM injections, drugs transfer quickly into the milk because the muscles have so many blood vessels, so the drug enters the bloodstream quickly.(http://www.breastfeedingbasics.com/html/drugs_and_bf.shtml)

This tells me, based on the other information that was posted here, that the pp was correct in saying that about 6 hours into a trip it would already be ok to breast feed again. If the half-life is only 3-6 hours and it takes more than that long to make it to the milk, common sense says that any trace amounts that did make it to the milk would be inert by the time the LSD made it to the mother's milk, the baby was ready to nurse again (every 4-6 hours for non-newborn babies,e very 2-4 hours for newborns under 2 months old), the baby ingested the milk into his digestive tract, and then the LSD absorbed into the baby's GI tract and made it's way to the baby's brain. I would say 12 hours after dosing, unless it was an unusually large amount, would be sufficient.

From the same site:
some doctors are hesitant to prescribe any medication for a nursing mother once they know that even a tiny amount enters the mother’s milk. Many doctors are afraid to prescribe a drug because of the conservative approach taken toward giving drugs to a pregnant woman. They feel that if a drug might possibly cause birth defects in a pregnant woman, then they shouldn’t give it to a lactating woman. The difference is that while the placenta lets drugs enter to cross into the developing fetus’s bloodstream, the breast serves as a very effective barrier for a fully developed infant.

This is a very good point. The placenta acts as a funnel, giving most of what the pregnant mother ingests to the fetus. However, the fatty tissues of the lactating mother's body absorbs most of the chemicals before it ever reaches the baby, keeping most of it from the baby. There is a good explanation for this. While in utero, the baby is getting all of it's nutrients from the mother's whole body and having it deposited, by way of the umbilical cord (which attaches to the placenta on the mother's side). Because the nutrients come from the mother's own reserves, the placenta passes everything necessary to the baby before it is absorbed by the mother, because the adult mother can function and thrive on much less nutritionally than the fetus needs to properly grow. Therefore, because the baby needs the nutrients more than the mother does, the mother receives much less than 100% of the nutrients she ingests because the baby gets it before she does.

However, the baby after birth receives it's sustainence from the mother's milk, not from her own reserves of nutrients. The mother receives her nutrients from the food she eats, but creates the milk for the baby as his food. The mother needs nutrients in order to create the milk. Therefore, in order to effectively create enough nutritious milk for the baby, the lactating mother will absorb almost 100% of the nutrients she ingests, because the baby needs her to ingest it to make the milk.

The body is a mysterious but wonderfully efficient machine, don't you think?

Anyway, my point is that a breastfeeding mother taking LSD is nothing at all in comparison to a pregnant mother taking LSD, and also that the way the body metabolizes during breastfeeding may actually cause the LSD to break down faster than it would in a non-lactating adult, therefore in my opinion, I feel it would be safe to breastfeed after a day or so.

Keep in mind there is very little scientific fact here, only my musings as related to the information supplied, and I am not a doctor. Just because I think it would be OK doesn't mean I am telling anyone to do it ;)
 
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People focus your attention on the subject not the participants plz
 
once the LSD is active in the brain (ie 20min-1hr post-ingestion), most of it has already broken down into inactive material within the first hour or two of the trip

i wouldn't be concerned unless we were talking epic doses- ie in the mg-range
that's my opinion based on my principals and what i know from experience

no one has a definite answer to the question because there are really no definitive answers. much about psychedelics in general remains mysterious and complex

it's really just up to the mother. i've seen mother's use pot and have healthy kids. in the end, who really knows what all the possible outcomes are... alcohol and other known-to-be highly neurotoxic drugs (unlike LSD) are obviously bad for babies, if they're obviously bad for you...

in summation, i'd be more concerned about eating junkfood than eating some acid

*end of manic rant* <3

-G
 
Nice to see people stand up for the basic rights of mothers, against those who claim that they would certainly be content to do nothing but nurse, change diapers, cook, clean, and read for a year or more, if they had a child. They might want to go get some actual experience before condemning others.
That said, my wife simply stopped all drugs (apart from smallish doses of caffeine) when she got pregnant, and she has not taken anything else in 6 years. This is her personal choice. But not all mothers need to make the same choice.
 
I think the fact that this thread has taken the course that it has leaves the OP's friend with only one option: wait until breastfeeding has ended.

When discussing the health of not only yourself, but also of others (let alone your own child), to heir on the side of precaution is the only suitable option. Because no one in this thread is certified to give you a scientifically-proven (with test results) answer, it should not be difficult to come to a reasonable conclusion.

Even if someone presented an argument which 'proved' LSD to be safe in this case, I would remain hesitant until results were shown. Human bodies are funny things. So is LSD. You never know what might happen.

Fact remains: you will live another mentally-stable day without the LSD. The OP's friend's baby might not.
 
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