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LSD/2C-B/DOC - 1st Time 2C-B - My Psychedelic Weekend

Xorkoth

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A Psychedelic Weekend
By Xorkoth

FRIDAY:

The night has just switched over into morning. It's 12:20am on Saturday, basically my Friday night. I place 4 hits of LSD on my tongue and let them dissolve there. This LSD is pretty weak, but I know from a previous trial that it's clean. I originally had been told 80mcgs oer hit, but it turns out they are more like 40, or even less. I'm also hoping that the time I traveled with them across the country to my hometown didn't cause them to degrade. I kept them locked in an airtight glass jar, and in room temperature, but unfortunately, they did have to endure 100 degrees Fahrenheit for a few hours, and room temperature is not cold.

At 12:36 (T+0:16) I feel a very faint, subtle, pleasant first alert. I wonder if it is placebo at first, and then at around 1:20 (T+1:00) I could feel a definite shift in my energy. But it was not overpowering at all, not even close. In fact, it was quite comfortable and tingly, pleasant really. At this point, I decide to put on some classical piano recordings I had downloaded earlier. As Chopin's "Nocturne in E Minor" slowly began, I enjoyed it greatly, but not especially so. The song is always beautiful.

Soon, another hour goes by (now it's T+2:00), and little else is happening. I have some very faint organic morping and crawling occurring, and colors seem brighter, especially when I go to the bathroom. The bright lights of the bathroom always seem to draw out a psychedelic state for some reason. I have a nice little euphoria going, but I really don't feel particularly altered. I do know for sure that this is LSD, as I can recognize its effects however subtle. It's just so ridiculously weak! I think part of this may be due to the fact that my psychedelic tolerance in general has raised significantly since the beginning of this year. Also of note is that in the past two months, I've come to notice that tripping really doesn't make mke feel nervous much anymore. Most of the time I get away with pleasant feelings and euphoria, even when I have very powerful trips. I certainly often speculate that anxiety can help to bring out profound changes in perception, simply due to the unfamiliarity of it. If you expect what is going to happen, well, then it's not going to seem as new.

In any case, at this point I decide on something I had pondered earlier, which was to ingest some 2C-B to kick this into gear. I had never tripped on 2C-B before this although I had tried once or twice on the tail end of MDMA. So I proceed to my stash and scales and weighed out exactly 15mg of 2C-B hydrobromide, and dropped it onto my tongue. I swished it around with water and held it there for a few minutes, then swallowed. It was bitter, but not ridiculously so. However, it burned considerably and left my tongue feeling scalded (although that did fade a few hours later).

I sit down at my computer chair to wait, and begin reading some new experience reports on Erowid, and listening to more classical piano recordings. At 3:04 (T+2:46 from the LSD and T+0:34 from the 2C-B), I feel a definite shift in my energy. The music begins to sound much more "rounded" and expansive, and my energy in general feels more "forward". I begin to feel like I'm being propelled forward, in fact, while simultaneously experiencing a pleasant body tingling. By 3:25 (T+3:05 from the LSD and T+0:55 from the 2C-B), there are rainbow coronas surrounding everything, in a very beautiful fashion. The visuals from 2C-B are really quite astounding, not as full and complex as with 2C-E but more beautiful, not creepy, and almost as intense. Every textured surface is crawling around, although there isn't a lot of perspective shifting. I decide at this point to vaporize a few hits of cannabis and go lay down and listen to one of my favorite tripping albums, Shulman's "In Search of a Meaningful Moment". I take about 3 hits and quickly go lay down.

Immediately, my trip gets thrown into high gear when the beat picks up. Before long, I realize that my ego is significantly dissolved, much more so than I had expected at any dose of 2C-B from reading reports. I was falling into several separate places of fantasy, each of which involved me being someone else entirely, from various places in history. These experiences were not as vivid as real life; they were more like reliving old memories. The closed-eye visuals began as a wide field of colorful geometric undulations, which soon faded into one separate view for each of my current thought processes. These views would sometimes be actual scenes corresponding to the memories, and would sometimes be abstract renderings of the concept of infinity in various forms.. The top of my head, directly at the "soft spot", felt like a focal point, and it felt like the rest of my head and body were split into multiple equivalent segments, each a "slice" of one of the other people I was experiencing. It was a very bizarre and rather shocking sensation, and it sometimes took a bit of scrambling to remember who I really was. I can't recall all of the people I experienced myself as, but I do recall that the majority of the experiences were of very basic and primitive living conditions, of people who existed as little more than animals. I felt a wide range of sensations, on only individual "slices" my body had become, of hunger, pain, fatigue, joy, sorrow, and everything else. On occasion I opened my eyes briefly, and the world was brightly strobing and undulating.

I felt and experienced a great deal of conceptual material during the 78 minutes that the song was playing. I notice that 2C-B provides a good deal of body heat and stimulation, in that phenethylamine way. It's not as stimulating as 2C-I, but the body heat output is far greater than with any of the other 2Cs. In fact, I felt hotter on 2C-B than on any other psychedelic I've done. Colors become unbelievably rich and saturated. A theme of my philosphical thought process and closed-eye visuals that I noticed ovverriding everything is of the arrangement of patterns into a larger whole, to form infinity. I also continually encountered the concept of infinity contained within every infinitely small particle, the very definition of infinity I suppose. Most of all, I was constantly being shown about the dichotomy present in everything; the pairing off into extremes. I got a sense that in some way, all of these dichotomies were the opposition of male and female forces, though at the same time I think that males and females are but one example of this dichotomy. The experience felt very paradoxical. I felt a sensation that was very interesting but hard to explain, that our every action is tied to our every other related action, whether past, present, or future. I got the sense that my reading of 2C-B reports in the past was somehow linked directly to the experience I was having. Of course, it was, but I mean this is a unique way - I felt very strongly that the two times were irrelevant. Basically I was feeling time as an illusion, a continuum, a man-made concept.

Immediately following the CD, I got up (to let off some excess stimulation) and wrote several things down:

"I ask: Why is it that the psychedelic experience is invariably centered on such fundamental concepts, such important, such complex, such uniform ones. This seems to be proof that they've been put here for a reason, to use as tools. Statistically, why else would we be able to take a random chemical and suddenly perceive infinity if it wasn't in order to allow us to learn something from it? I mean, seriously."

"Imagine following a point as it fractalizes into infinity. As it reaches the point of either being obsolete or so incomprehensibly vast so as to swallow up everything, there you have the dichotomy, the paradox. The dual nature in everything, but it is really one and the same, one side balancing out the other in an illusionary dance. This holds true for anything."

At this point (4:41, T+4:21/T+1:49), I'm definitely on the way down already, as expected. There is a certain sense of dirtiness in my body, a feeling which the LSD alone would not have produced. I decide to sit down and read some 2C-B reports to help compare and contrast what I had just experienced and hopefully keep it in mind more solidly.

At 6:17am, I go downstairs to check out my cat Magna who has been meowing loudly and insistently. Turns out she just wants some love and attention, so I set about petting her. While we interacted, I had a unique experience. I was able to sense her spirit and personality to a much greater degree than ever before, which is saying a lot because I have a LOT of understanding of animals, especially my own. I felt as if I could sense what she was feeling, as complex emotions. I felt the noble spirit of her. I recollected on how we are all the same observer, the universal force of consciousness, at the deepest level. For a moment, I saw myself (the human) through the eyes of my little kitty, and I felt intense love and family coming through that, a strong bond. I also reflected on how, when you treat a living thing with nothing but love, as they all deserve, they react back only with love, except in the case of some heavily emotionally or psychologically wounded humans (or animals I suppose). What does that say about the nature of existence?

The rest of the night is spent lounging about, reading report, posting on some message boards, and listening to great music. I never did end of going to sleep.

SATURDAY:

I greet my girlfriend as she wakes up for the day. We lounge about for a while and I begin to get somewhat tired. Spontaneously, I decide to ingest 1mg of DOC at noon. Directly after that, we go to Costco to get some essentials (not food, as I prefer to shop at a healthier place). As we get there, I feel the warm psychedelic amphetamine buzz begin, but not strong enough to make me anxious in public. This was going to be a fun shopping trip!

While inside the store, I feel as if my girlfriend and I are in our own protective bubble. She begins to obviously catch my vibe (as happens every single time I'm on DOC around her), and we begin analyzing everyone around us and generally having loads of fun investigating the store around us. We notice parents ignoring their children, ignoring each other, just passing by life, angry, sad, discouraged. It made me feel glad once again that I'm able to pull myself out of that rut on a day-to-day basis these days, because at one time I was definitely on my way into the same rut. When someone was rude, walking between us and the store display without even looking at us or saying excuse me or sorry, while simultaneously bumping my girlfriend rather hard in the shoulder, she said, rather loudly, "You know, excuse me or sorry would have been nice". He walked by briskly without looking, joining his wife, I suppose, about 15 feet away. We hear him muttering to her about what a bitch my girlfriend was, but we just laugh, because we know who the bitch in this situation is, and anyway, what does it matter? Soon after, we pay for our items and go on home. Driving was as affected as it would have been on an Adderall or two, which is to say, boosted.

What follows is a day of the utmost hilarity and contentment, a truly blessed day where we were both able to bask in bliss and just live in the moment.

Once we get home, I take .5mg more of DOC. I notice that my vision is slightly wavering but my euphoria has only increased. It manifests itself as a warm glow in my solar plexus area, or perhaps from my heart. I've got a big goofy smile all over my face, and my mind is working overtime, coming up with connections between everything I thought about for a moment. As is customary for my girlfriend, we turn on some TV, switching over the day between E! (ugh), The Food Channel, The Discovery Channel, The Travel Channel, and The Weather Channel (for Storm Stories). Although I normally tolerate the TV at best, on DOC I've found it to be great fun and very thought-provoking, sort of like being in bed with the enemy. It allows me to analyze the state of pop culture and also learn some interesting things when it's turned to the more informational channels, which I enjoy at any time. I made some kratom, about 7 grams, and drank that, which, on DOC, for some reason adds to the DOC euphoria without really adding an opiate touch to it or bringing it down at all, and lasts damn near the whole time the DOC does, as opposed to its usual 2-3 hours. It also makes me feel warm and itchy to a much, much greater extent than kratom does alone.

It would take a very long time to describe my whole day, as it was truly excellent and full of meaning and love and warmth and feelings of incredible happiness. But let me illustrate a few highlights that jump out at me:

We were watching the E! channel, my least favorite television of all as I truly believe it has done so much towards dumbing down Americans and making people, especially women and girls, insecure as hell. Anyone who follows pop culture, whether inadvertently like me or on purpose, will know what I'm about to talk about. They were talking about Vince Vaughn and Jennifer Aniston, or "Vaughniston" since they've recently begun combining celebrity couples' names into one. These are two actors who I enjoy and respect in their movies and TV shows. Seriously, it's twisted, this situation. The media is SO INTO these peoples' lives. I mean, these poor people! They'd like to have their personal lives stay private, and they repeatedly request that the media leave them alone, even to the point of denying their relationship. But the media just WILL NOT do it. Instead, they make up a pet name for them and every other day or so, invent a new story about how they've found proof that they're getting married (marriage is the new "in" thing in Hollywood, you know). Meanwhile these people are denying repeatedly that they are. It's a brutal and shameful intrusion of privacy and personal space that for some reason your average young American is obsessed with. It's almost like voyeurism pornography. it really disgusts me. I occurs to me that this is probably how people see Americans, and sadly, in large part, they're right. It's almost funny, but really, it's terrifying more than anything.

This led into how I was noticing the various people who play a part in the American marketing machine. Primarily, I was noticing the announcers/"anchors" in E! News. Some of them are totally oblivious and love it and think it's cool. Some of them, it became obvious, are fully aware of what it's doing, but they are probably attracted by the money. But all of them are now trapped into the system. Even the announcers have become celebrities in their own right, and other pop culture "news" crews follow them around and report every little insignificant thing that they do. It truly is a machine, a machine which has gained so much steam that I'm not sure if it'll ever stop.

At one point, we watched a marathon of the show by Alton Brown on the Food Network, "Feasting on Asphault". This, as opposed to everything on E!, is actually a good show. It's a series that consists of taping an entire motorcycle road trip across the country, taking only back roads, to investigate the heritage and history of American cuisine and how it was influenced by the evolution of the country and technology. In small towns, the corporate chains haven't yet taken over so you can actually find countless unique restaurants. I noticed the very real interactions going on between he and his crew and the people he met along the trip. Alton Brown is just so passionate about what he does, and he's a really smart guy. I always learn a lot about food and cooking and history when I watch his shows. This show really took my breath away. It's a rare gem.

I also encountered several absurd statements while watching TV, that, when taken out of context, made me laugh for a long time. The first one was on a traveling food show (not "Feasting on Asphault") where they said "In order to fully appreciate an Irish pub, one must surely have loads of crack on hand." Well, they meant "kraik", an Irish word, but it's pronounced "crack". Well, I thought it was funny.

Another hilarious and intensely embarassing segment to watch was ridiculous whether or not it was taken in context. it was Al Roker's food show, and he was visiting with this attractive woman who was showing him how to make some sort of food. But, amazingly, he began hitting on her horribly, and it was obviously making her extremely uncomfortable. He kept using the words "hot" or "sexy" in this creepy, creepy voice. He'd be like "Watch as this SEXY lady shows us how to make some food. She's so HOT! Yeah!" "Ohh, I'm feeling SEXY now, with this SEXY lady, making her SEXY food!" She got increasingly uncomfortable and red in the face, and the worse it got, the more he started freaking out and leaping about and leaning in on her. I honestly cant believe they aired it; it was very inappropriate. The climax was when he started leaping around shouting at the top of his lungs "Spank me! Spank me! I feel SEXY!" Then the scene cut to later on, and he tried to bring it up once more, I think probably embarassed that he had freaked out like that, and someone off the set warned him not to. It was tres bizarre.

Also, all day long, my girlfriend had a massive contact high. Actually, it was weird, because I gave her kratom as well, and it also lasted all day for her, from 2 until 10, and she described feeling very weird, lightheaded. I pressed her and she ended up describing the feeling of DOC mixed with kratom, except that she didn't understand it or know what to expect so it freaked her out a little. This is very weird because kratom does not last that long at all normally. In addition, she ALWAYS gets a contact high from me on DOC and we always end up having a truly wonderful day when I use it, but apparently this time it was just too much.

A final stand-out event in the day was perhaps the funniest and strangest of all. We were watching all this talk about the new "summer blockbuster", "Snakes on a Plane". Now, we've thought this movie sounded unimaginably stupid from the beginning. I hypothesized that it's a parody of the Hollywoodized movie, which is basically just special effects. But part of the parody is marketing it as a serious film. I wondered out loud why anyone would want to watch it because it looks so lame and uncreative. Then my phone rang. Guess what I heard when I picked it up:

It was Samuel L. Jackson's voice (the main actor in the film), sounding totally natural and unbroken, saying, basically: "Yo! Get up off your scrawny behind and get out there and see Snakes on a Plane! Why you ask? it's the greatest movie ever made! It's nonstop action! So get up, stop messing with those computers, quit smoking that waaaacky tobacky, get in your wannabe sports car, and drive down to the theater! If you don't, you'll regret it!" I'm forgetting some of it but unfortunately it was not recorded.

I was absolutely blown away! This was a coincidence of the most amazing kind, a direct response to the question I had jusrt asked by the man himself! Not only that, but the details in it corresponded exactly to me: I'm skinny, I work with computers, I have a low-end sports car, and I certainly smoke the "wacky tobacky". After feeling confused for a bit, we ended up laughing at that for hours. I still can't get over how much that made my day. And it also still confuses me to some extent. I would assume a friend of mine went to some website or something and hnad a recording call me (it was definitely a recording). But if so, how is it that he could have the recording pick out such personal pieces of information and still sound perfectly seamless? I don't know, but it was hilarious!

The rest of the day is spent in a beautiful high/afterglow that lasts until I go to sleep, at around 3:30am (Almost 48 hours since I woke up Friday morning).

SUNDAY:

I wake up Sundat at about 10am and decide to ingest more DOC, since I was on a roll. I dose 1.25mg at 11:15, and then another .6mg at 2:15. Before long I experience slowly shifting colors and textures, a beautiful euphoria, and racing analytical thoughts. It's going to be another lovely day! My girlfriend experiences yet another contact high and enjoys it thoroughly. This will be good towards introducing her to psychedelics, as eventually I can explain to her that she's already somewhat experienced one. She's quite open to the idea now but is just afraid, and her only experience around people that she knew were tripping was when less experienced people were giving off strange vibes and creeping her out. Hence, she thinks that they make people creepy and she doesn't want to do them with me because she thinks it'll hurt her perception of me.

Basically, this day progresses just like Saturday did, only with significantly less profundity and euphoria. Still, it was a great day that I treasure.

CONCLUSION:

I had an awesome psychedelic weekend that I wouldn't trade for anything. As for 2C-B, I discovered that it's a more profound chemical for me than many people have said it is, and I plan to use it more in the future at higher levels. Combining it with LSD was really great, and may have added significantly to the depth of the experience. It has a slightly annoying comedown, unlike most other psychedelics I've tried, but it's easily manageable.

As for DOC, I've discovered that it's quite useful at low doses as well as at high ones. I was far from a breakthrough, but the intellectual and physical aspects of the trip remain in full force. DOC really allows me to "live in the now" moreso than any other chemical I've tried. Although I've learned to do this pretty well, I think, in my daily sober life, DOC brings it up to a different level entirely. I also determined that, while in a way DOC seems to have a reverse tolerance, becoming generally more powerful every time I use it at higher doses, at low doses taken on consecutive days it definitely loses strength, and so I shouldn't take it that often anymore. I also found out that it goes really well after another psychedelic experience. My only real complaint about DOC is that sometimes it seems to impose a certain amount of vasoconstriction, as LSA does, making walking around after sitting for a while painful. That, and it tends to make me flushed and occasionally itchy. Interestingly, it combines with kratom to make the opioid plant itchier and longer-lasting by far.

On a somewhat related note, I also determined that music is love, and love is god. It's interesting how throughout human history, music has always played a very important role in society.

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Thats a fucken huge weekend man respect to you. It is true that the ultimate "TRUE" nature of the universe is love. Love is all and you found that through your cat. Cats are definatly mysitcal creatures and i have found the same connection tripping with my cat, especially on one of my trips i remeber looseing connection with GOD or my higher self and it was like i was being left behind but my cat came up to me and gave me this like, hey its allright man its allright just stick with it you will be all fine.

Think it was funny with that snakes on a plane recording sent to your phone, how wierd is it when shit like that happens especially being symbolic of the whole psychedelic and phones cleche so esentially when u picked up the phone you got the exact message you wanted not that it was meaningfull to your life but it did set the laughing fits off for the rest of the trip, I bet if you had of watched the movie it would have blowen your mind. Dude you should try listning to the radio when your tripping, its trippier than tv, basically you create it, the radio station plays the exact songs you need during the trip or that relte directly to it, dont even worry about makeing a playlist radio is the soundtrack of your life when your tripping balls.

Also what you say about music, about being love is definatly true, now this is not all music of coarse but the reall good shit that is around especially the stuff that is 30 40+ years old like floyd this music never dies because is has such a godessence about it and touched the masses in such a powerfull way, music directly influenced through the cosmic universal mind, i think better music indicates that the people have a better connection with the mind.

I no longer trip anymore as gotta get the body and mind healthy again after a few unfortunate paths ive taken during trips, but reading reports like these definatly bring back those awsome memorys of the parts of tripping you will never ever forget. thankyou man

Love n Light bruz
 
Your friday experience is almost identical to mine when I combined 15mg 2c-b with 6mg DOC. I was wondering if you had any rushes similar to MDMA on the 2cb? Apart from the music and euporic rushes, I had an exact similar exp.
 
We don't have Costcos in my part, everything is under Walmart's thumb here. But I cannot stand being in there on psychedelics, even if its on the tail end and I'm just there with a friend running in real quick to snag something and get out.

I always leave Walmart angry. Even if I'm in a good mood, I'm angry when I leave. Its a magnet for assholes. Everyone there is increadibly rude. Nobody seems to know how to disciple their children ("Mommy I want it! I WANT IT IWANT I!!! NOW!! I WANT IT!!..... SHUT UP! YOU CAN'T HAVE IT! I SAID SHUT UP!!!.. Mommy... I want..)

I push my little cart around slowly, so I don't run into anyone pulling out of aisle. I stop when they do so without looking. They still glare at me, as if they are restraining themselves from going off on me for getting in their way.

Fatass motherfuckers buying potato chips, slim jims, donuts, and processed barbeque with food stamps, then depending on public healthcare to fix their resultant health problems.

People that get in the 21 items or less line with a cart full of crap just because its the shortest line and they are more important then everyone else.

Everyone there looks so sad, and defeated. No zest for life. They've given up. They are the bottom rung of the ladder and they know it, and will never do anything to change it.

Its almost too much for me to take while sober! Sometimes it is, and I have to take some xanax before I go in.

My girlfriend on the other hand thinks its great fun to walk around tripping there. She seems all the multicolored labels, the bright colors, the erratic movements of the people as they shop, the range of smells. The texture of things, she just takes it in.

I don't get it. I guess that is a generalization, but where I am its not far from the truth.
 
Xorkoth, thanks soo much for this trip report.
It was a pleasure to read from start to finish.

Im glad you were able to see the depth that 2c-b offers, its not something many people mention about this drug. And really, i didnt know it had such potential untill my last trip with it.
Now it has become one of favorites.
It leaves me in a very profound state of mind, loving existance.

The only thing i would have to disagree with you on is 2c-b's comedown. I find the comedown to be the most euphoric part of the trip. Once the peak is over and i start brewing over all the lessons that were thrown in my face i just cant help but smile.
The body high from 2c-b is also quite nice except i find i cant smoke anything while tripping on it as even 1 drag/hit will make me want to puke.

Im really anxious to see how 2c-b will mix with my favorite chemical, LSD. (and although this may seem like overkill i think 125-175mg of MDMA would synergize with this combo really well, even though i know you dont like mdma. hopefully one day soon i will come back here with the trip report.)

After your recomendation Ill be trying out low dose DOC this weekend to see what it has to offer.

anyway, keep pumping out the incredible reports man.

peace.


ps. the LSD you had, was it on flimsy white unperfed paper and what state is it in (if u dont mind me asking)?
 
The 2c-b comedown has always been very easy for me. At some point, I'll notice a decline in effects. The decline speeds up a little bit later, and then, the next thing i know I'm sober. When its over, its over. Its probably the easiest, cleanest comedown of any drug I've taken.
 
ps. the LSD you had, was it on flimsy white unperfed paper and what state is it in (if u dont mind me asking)?

No, it was from a friend's bottle of liquid. He gave me 10 drops, and each is just soaked into several random squares of blotter. I also believe it degraded. But fortunately I've obtained some that hasn't degraded :)

About the 2C-B comedown, I found it incredibly easy and euphoric. The only nastiness I pointed out was a general feeling of stimulation and body weirdness, which I couldn't have cared less about. I just mentioned it for completeness. it might also have something to do with the fact that I'm more used to DOC and LSD these days, which for me are extremely smooth physically (especially LSD).

About Costco, it's definitely easier to handle than Walmart. I used to get really paranoid in public and get affected strongly by the pathetic nature of the people there, but lately I've found myself able to shrug that stuff off quite easily. I'm not sure why, but for the past couple of months my mood has been unable to drop below happiness.

And I definitely recommend LSD and 2C-B. I've got to try 2C-B alone sometime, but I believe the LSD added profoundness to the trip, for sure.

Tokey-Tokerson, I did get some rushes, and I suppose in retrospect they were pleasurable somewhat akin to MDMA, but at the time I didn't notice that being so. Interesting that you had such a similar experience :)

Finally, thanks Bikki_muncher. I appreciate your words. Actually, I appreciate all of your words.
 
Well, if you enjoyed it and found it added some depth to 2C-B, I think I will try the LSD-2C-B combo at the next local psy gathering or on a camping trip.

I feel I've fully explored 2c-b at this point, taking doses as small as 8mg, some moderate doses, and 1 substantial dose last weekend after some MDMA. While there was definitely more depth to it at that point (maybe complexity is a better word), it was still not quite what I was looking for. I was hallucinting so strongly I could not see more than probably 20ft or so (and mostly all I could see was exploding rainbow shapes), and yet when random people would come up to me and ask me a question I could answer it as long as I did not go into great detail or tell a story. 2c-b is definitely one of my favorites now.

Thats really bizarre to me to be that coherent, and yet that intoxicated at the same time. If a little LSD cranks the mental part of the experience up a bit, this may be exactly the type of experience I have been seeking for a long time.

Then again, I'm not sure I'd want to leave out the MDMA... and when I mix MDMA and LSD I tend to get pretty slammed. Something for me to ponder over the next few weeks I guess.

thanks for the report.
 
Nice report.

Do you not get cross-tolerance issues tripping 2 or 3 days running? I have trips of extremely reduced intensity if I take a psychedelic 2 days running, and even when using two different psychedelics I find the second trip is massively weaker than the first.
 
All I want to know is ... How the hell does your girlfriend not figure out that you're tripping ... all the damn time!!!??? I find that simply incredible. Does she ever wake up at like 4:00 or 5:00 a.m and wonder what the hell you're doing? This is truely perplexing to me. I do love how she always gets a contact high. That's hilarious. :) Maybe if she realizes that you are tripping 24/7, she won't be so afraid. OTOH, you might want to break it to her a little more slowly.

Nice report as always.

I found your last two sentences very interesting, but thought you ended a little abruptly. Care to elaborate? Maybe you can continue that thought in your next report. I also think music is love, or can be associated with love. I see it as a very pure form of self expression that I really wish I could use as an outlet. Well ... I'm talking about REAL music, maybe not the majority of formulaic crap that is usually polluting the airwaves. My Morning Jacket ... now, that's REAL. I love it when a band really pours their heart and soul into their music. It can unleash some extremely powerful emotions, especially while tripping. Many of my most profound and memorable moments in the psychedelic state have been catalyzed by incredible music. I think music has always played such an integral role in society because it affects us more deeply than just words. For some reason, it's tied so closely to emotions. It's like you don't have to understand anything from music (there's no direct message) but it can be deeply meaningful nonetheless.
 
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Heh, because I'm good :D

Actually, I just stopped letting myself get tripped up in social interaction when feeling strange. Whenever I trip hard it's at night, and occasionally she wakes up, but I've been staying up all night once a week for along time, doing various things like working on programming projects or reading. My plan is to eventually reveal to her that I've tripped around her "several" times, so she realizes it doesn't turn people into raving crackhead-like figures with no conception of reality or self-control.

I really don't trip 24/7 though... just most Friday nights, and occasionally Saturday on something low-dose.

UnfortunateSquid: Yes, I did have some cross-tolerance come into play, but DOC cuts through it pretty well and low doses tend to manifest the effects I was speaking of regardless of tolerance, for me. On Sunday, the DOC was much weakened from Saturday.
 
Yeah, I wasn't serious about the 24/7 thing, but for that weekend in particular, you must have been at least a little out of it by the end. I sometimes used to dose at night when my girlfriend was there ... sometimes I'd tell her and sometimes I wouldn't. She didn't care too much, and a lot of times we had some really great conversations when I was tripping. Then I'd have the rest of the night to myself when she went to sleep. It was only in my once/week+ phase that I stopped informing her of every single experience. I hope that you do get to trip with her sometime, because it is a wonderful experience to share with someone you care about so much. Just don't start her out on 2C-E like I did ... bad idea. She didn't have a bad trip, but it's definitely not an introductory psychedelic. Acid, mushrooms, 4-aco-dipt, 4-aco-mipt, and maybe 2C-B can be perfect starters.

Does she not even know that you have a collection of all these chems?
 
She didn't have a bad trip, but it's definitely not an introductory psychedelic. Acid, mushrooms, 4-aco-dipt, 4-aco-mipt, and maybe 2C-B can be perfect starters.

Nope.

Yeah, no way would I start anyone on 2C-E. No way at all. I was thinking that whenever I do introduce her it'll be with LSD or 2C-B, or maybe (maybe) lower-dose DOC, although I would be afraid of the length if she didn't like it. But perhaps the greatest choice would be mescaline, taken outdoors while camping. Or perhaps lower-dose mushrooms.
 
Go with mescaline, the comeup is friendly unlike acid where is like dose wait wait first alert ROAHHHBLOB IM TRIPPING LIKE A MOTHER FUCKER. Mescaline is also very guideing especially cactus lke an old dude takeing you round the cosmos as you would know. Dude start her on mescaline its a very friendly loving substance and most of the time a very speical experience. :D
 
Yeah, it was my first time with 2C-E as well. Luckily, I only gave her 12 mg, and myself 18, but it was still a little too much for her. Well, I think the come-up freaked her out a little, but other than that I think we both found it enjoyable. Her favorite so far was 25 mg 4-aco-dipt ... very gradual come-up and never too threatening. Or maybe LSD. Both are good one's to share with a gf.
 
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