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LSD (2 hits) - first time - quite unremarkable

Ghettotastic_bong

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LSD 2 hits - first time - quite unremarkable

I'm convinced at this point that my nerochemistry is different than the majority of bluelighters. I've always been hyper-sensitive to drugs like amphetamines (I consiter 5mg of amphetamines a healthy recreational dose), and despite all of my efforts, including a dose of morning glory seeds that was upwards of 800 seeds, i've never been to the point of tripping.

Anyway, at about 11 o'clock last night, my friend came over with four hits of acid. He sold me all of the hits, and on an impulse, decided to take a hit. About 20 minutes later, upon the urging of a friend, i took a second hit.

t 0:40 I'm starting to come up and feel a slightly stimulating feeling. I smoke a small amout of cannabis.

t 1:20 There's a definate feeling of euphoria, but no visuals at this point

t 2:20 Ok, i'm starting to get some mild tracers. I'm amazed by how untoxicated i feel, i'm having a perfectly normal conversation with a friend without any trouble. Cannabis alone would usually impair me more

t 4:00 My effects really aren't changing much, i feel stimulated, but not much else at this point. I lie down in the dark and realize that i'm getting very little of the way of visuals.

t 8:00 I'm unable to sleep and have been lying in bed for the past four hours. I typically have a peroid of just lying in the dark thinking while on psychedelics, to try to capture the mindset that psychedelics put you in. I found my thought patterns for this entire peroid remarkably normal. Sort of disapointing. Shortly afterwards, i'm able to fall into a light sleep, with a afterglow partially compensating for my lack of sleep making me somewhat functional the next day.

So, why post an utterly unremarkable trip report? More to state myself as a statistic than anything else. I've seen various people post in the psychedelics forum post about "Not being able to trip", and i'm clearly suffering from the same problem. The instintct reaction would be to say that my source was bunk, but i've had friends trip off of the same sheet without problem, it makes me think that i have a somewhat abnormal brain chemstry that effects this class of psychoactive chemicals. I don't have experence with any phenethylamines, perhaps that should be next.
 
Umm... your source was bunk man.

Obviously not totally bunk, but waaay weak. I guarantee you just one Dragon blotter or Eyeball blotter would get you 10x as lifted as that did.

I've had blotters that were that weak too and got similar effects. You just need to break through with some good stuff ;)
 
Re: LSD 2 hits - first time - quite unremarkable

Ghettotastic_bong said:
t 2:20 Ok, i'm starting to get some mild tracers. I'm amazed by how untoxicated i feel, i'm having a perfectly normal conversation with a friend without any trouble. Cannabis alone would usually impair me more

This doesn't strike me as unusual, nor does it strike me as low quality LSD. Many a trip I've had where I would never have guessed I was tripping, except for the facts that I knew I'd ingested the substance, and the other difference was that I could identify the changes in my thinking patterns.

It doesn't mean you got bunk lsd if you're not seeing crazy visuals and wanting to go talk to a packet of pancakes. Certainly, it might have been a low dose, but I must stress that exploring the lower doses of psychedelics is a wonder.

Unfortunately the only thing that's taught me that was excessively high doses.

A friend of mine once said she ate 8 hits of what was allegedly a "quality" acid, and got nothing from it, while everyone else around was smacked in the face from it. Her reasoning? A lack of subconscious. What are your behaviours like in human interaction? Are you set apart from the crowd by your ability to take sensory input and output differently? When some people say they aren't "built" for acid, I suspect this is what they're getting at.

/ramble
 
i had a freind who had this same problem..... no heavy visuals from acid.... however after numerous experiences he can now trip quite heavily.

I think more than a chemical problem it can also be a psychological problem, not in a bad way....but just that your mindset is not prepared to "trip"

It is quite common for some peoples first lsd experience (esp. low doses) to be fairly unremarkable.... once you have "tripped"...you know the signs to look for and you can mentally enhance the trip..... but if you have not tripped your mind may be searching actively for something different which is countering the effects.

Dont give up and think "I cant trip"..... I think anyone can... but if you have a resistance to its effects (chemical or psychological) then a bit more effort may be required. Try a slightly higher dose and/or make sure the set and setting is good. Psychs more than any other drug require a good set and setting to get the most out of them.

cheers
 
^^
I had a couple unremarkable LSD trips to start off with. The first was with a 1/2 or less of a Fractal blotter (sold to me as a whole, but I wanted to try LSD so much that I bought it anyway). I had effects similar to what Ghettotastic described, but I happened to be at a Phish show and had a fantastic time anyway.

The second time was on 1.5 tie-dye "family doses" some hippie traded me at a Bob Dylan show. They were very weak and once again I got effects similar to what Ghettotastic described.

The next time after that I ate just one Fly blotter and 30 minutes later my mind was blown, I had fantastic visuals, and I had never before experienced what I considered such a purely psychedelic trip.

I agree there is a certain point when one is able to break though. But I think its largely dose dependent. If you take enough potent acid, you WILL trip. LSD is one of the few drugs that seems to work fairly reliably on just about everyone (unless you're on antidepressants or something).

Ghettotastic, don't give up on LSD man ;)
 
One thing i didn't really explain is that i have tripped before. I've done several high heavenly blue morning glory seed trips (800 seeds or so), and have had several deep experences with them. I think the problem is bunk acid. The dead has a show happening in my area soon.... hmmmm... :)
 
Yeah, I thought there was something wrong with me, too, after taking a few single and double hits and feeling only a + trip. It took me a good triple dose before I broke through. Since then it feels like I trip much harder on low doses too. The last time I did acid was two hits, around 175-200ug probably, and it felt at least as strong as my first three hit trip.

I think with almost any drug there is a psychological learning curve.
 
When one of my ex flatmates tried LSD for the first time he was convinced he wasn't really tripping or feeling anything except stoned (we were smoking some weed as well). I latter pointed out that he would not normally choose to walk up the (nearby) hill in the middle of the night in the pooring rain and enjoy it if he was just stoned! The point i am trying to make is that until you know what to look for it is often difficult to know exactly how much you are tripping.

I guess i'm saying the same thing as VictorBorge when he said;

I think with almost any drug there is a psychological learning curve.
 
did you chew up the seeds into a pulp and swallowed them? or did you try to do some wasteful extraction? if you chewed them, that's the largest dose i've ever heard of. i can't imagine the neg. effects associated with that kind of consumption

btw, i totally agree that you have to get a feel for a drug. even if you trip really hard the first few times, your brain takes a while to get the idea behind what to expect. it took me and weed about a hundred or so times this year. i still get mindblowing visuals with weed alone (yeah the oev kind) but i can snap myself out of it if i need to. Early on this was impossible.
 
Re: LSD 2 hits - first time - quite unremarkable

Ghettotastic_bong said:
The instintct reaction would be to say that my source was bunk, but i've had friends trip off of the same sheet without problem, it makes me think that i have a somewhat abnormal brain chemstry that effects this class of psychoactive chemicals.

I would say that your friends are exaggerating the effects as they are unexperienced?

My first few trips were some really weak acid, and while my friends were happily jumping around, atleast getting some enjoyment from their placebo, I found myself just saying 'this couldn't be acid.' Two weeks later I discovered what acid is all about.

Believe me, the first time you experience acid, you'll definately know about. Apart from alcohol, it is one of the only drugs that never fails to intoxicate should you take a reasonable dose.

Don't expect any revelations or deep thoughts, you'll find most of your initial LSD experiences are spent just giggling and looking at tracers for 8 hours straight (by no means a bad thing) but you most likely won't remember any of it.

Dont give up man, LSD is one of the most remarkable psychadelics in the world, itll be all worth it in the end.
 
did you chew up the seeds into a pulp and swallowed them? or did you try to do some wasteful extraction? if you chewed them, that's the largest dose i've ever heard of. i can't imagine the neg. effects associated with that kind of consumption

I chewed them up. Other than nausia (I threw up probably 45 mins - 1 hour after taking the seeds), and some leg cramping, the negitive side effects were by no means overwhelming. Besides, there are plenty reports for mega-doses of LSA on erowid. I've seen reports of 1500+ seeds.

I'm not really expecting any deep thoughts or stunning experences, i'm just expecting to feel the intoxication of a psychedelic.
 
I would love to be able to take acid and still feel sober.

I get it at times during my trips, but usually sooner or later everything descends into madness and I lose control of my mind's periphery. Which in turn leads to loss of total control...

Oh well...maybe someday...although when that point comes, I doubt I'll need to test it.

(man, am I sleepy)
 
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