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("LSD" / 150 µg blotter) - First Time - Boring, kind of confused?

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AnanasBannana

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Obviously there's no way to verify that the tab was 150ug, but that was the claim when I got it.

7:00 PM: My Girlfriend and I dropped one tab of LSD. The blotter was mostly tasteless.
7:30 PM: No real affects yet, we decide to turn on a movie (The Imitation Game).
7:45 PM: Started to feel anxiety, heart was beginning to race.
8:00 PM: Had to turn off the movie as I was beginning to think I was going to have an awful trip. I’m shaking slightly and my heart feels like it’s pounding on my chest.
8:05 PM: We get up and start walking around the room. Everything looks like it’s pulsating slightly.
8:15 PM: Starting to feel extremely claustrophobic inside, we decide to take a walk.
8:20 PM: Walking outside, the rain is wonderful. The ground looks like it’s extremely hilly despite being quite flat. We’re getting extremely giddy, very similar to being quite stoned.
9:00 PM: Visuals are starting to fade. I can bring them back with considerable effort.
10:00 PM: Still walking around, the landscape is getting incredibly boring; start to go home.
10:30 PM: Get home, I feel exhausted and somewhat intoxicated. My girlfriend is starting to get quite anxious. We decide to watch a light movie, ‘How to train your dragon 2’.
2:00 AM: Movie’s over, I enjoyed the colours but haven’t seen anything move unexpectedly in hours. Text is somewhat hard to read. We start talking, acting like we’re tipsy. Pupils still extremely dilated.
3:30 AM: Asleep.

So overall, what I received out of it was:


  • 2.5 hours of visuals, that could only be described as extreme variations in depth perception
  • A giddy high that feels extremely like cannabis
  • A slight appreciation for colours.
  • A dramatic slow-down of time
  • Complete loss of short term memory

I had no deep, introspective thoughts of any kind; and after I got used to the feeling, I felt completely in control. My thoughts mostly came in strong images as opposed to coherent thoughts.

Thought I would take it relatively easy the first time, but is this just the result of taking too little?
 
Well, that's good to hear. Hope better for the future?

Few questions:


  • Next dose, double?
  • Is feeling tired on LSD normal? I heard that it was supposed to be somewhat stimulating (Obviously not to the extent on MDMA/Coke). I had a strong desire the entire time to lie or sit down.
  • Can different blotters from the same sheet be different strengths? My girlfriend tripped for much longer than me.
  • How long should I wait before I do it again?
 
Interesting.
It's not often i hear people say an acid trip was boring. I think what you might need to focus on is the all-important set and setting ("set" - mindset; your frame of mind, mood and thoughts around the time of the trip and "setting" - the place where you trip - how it looks, how the atmosphere and vibe feel can make a huge difference to your trip.

Dose plays a factor as well, obviously - but it would be hard to overstate the power of set and setting to influence a trip.
Some of the elements of set/setting are completely controllable - like where you choose to drop acid, and when - but we can't always choose our mood or what is on our minds at the time of a trip.
If you go into a trip well-rested, with good physical health (good diet, well rested etc) and in a positive mood, i think you are more likely to have the kind of revelations and inspiring thought processes associated with LSD and psychedelics.
AnanasBannana said:
  • Next dose, double?
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Assuming that you are talking about the same batch of tabs - that should be fine.
The one thing that stands out to me though is the apprehension you seemed to get (as the trip was coming on) that you would have a bad trip.
Was this your only anxious moment? If so, you're probably fine to try dropping 2 tabs. If you felt edgy and uncomfortable, it might be worth trying to tweak the set/setting instead of upping the dose.
But if i were you, and i found a trip boring - yeah, i personally would double the dose. Or maybe try 1 and a half to start with.
AnanasBannana said:
  • Is feeling tired on LSD normal? I heard that it was supposed to be somewhat stimulating (Obviously not to the extent on MDMA/Coke). I had a strong desire the entire time to lie or sit down.
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If you're tired before you trip, you'll be tired during the trip. I find acid to be pretty stimulating - in the sense that i cant sleep for 12+ hours - but it doesnt give me energy when i'm fatigued, like amphetamine. It can go either way, and depends a lot on how you are feeling (well nourished? etc) at the time of taking the trip.

The other thing i would say about set and setting is that it can make a big difference to simply make sure you are doing something interesting with your trip.
I have had good times watching movies to distract me from the come-up of psychedelics, or in the latter stages of the trip, but i get very bored and frustrated if i spend the peak doing something as passive as watching tv during the peak.

Getting up and moving around can be good - i like to really revel in the heightened sensory perception i have on LSD - textures, sounds, tastes are all extremely fascinating to explore - especially if you are lucky enough to experience synaesthesia (seeing sounds, hearing colours, etc).
Unlike coke or MDMA - which flood your brain with pleasure chemicals and make mundane reality seem amazingly fun - i have always found acid to be the most interesting when i put a bit of work into experiencing the most from my trip.
Whether that is by dropping acid in a forest, making a trippy playlist of beautiful music, preparing a plate of fruits to be eaten during the trip - or even staring at one space (like a blank wall or some other kind of hallucinatory canvas) and seeing how much i can influence the nature and characteristics of the visuals - i find that LSD is most interesting when i make some kind of investment in the trip, rather than sitting around waiting to be entertained.
Sometimes the entertainment comes along and bashes you in the face (!) but other times you have to work on it a bit, at least in my experience.
AnanasBannana said:
  • Can different blotters from the same sheet be different strengths? My girlfriend tripped for much longer than me.
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yes, blotters can be dosed unevenly. Other variables such as individual metabolism and tolerance play a huge role too. I usually find that people who are less experienced with drugs tend to get blown away by doses that i would find small. Individual responses to the same dose can vary dramatically.
AnanasBannana said:
  • How long should I wait before I do it again?
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I always say "the longer the better" (ie if you wait 3 months it usually re-sets your tolerance completel).. It is possible to trip the day after - but you need to double the dose to feel anything! I once foolishly took 1 tab two days in a row - the second day i didnt trip at all, just felt weird - because LSD and most other psychs have a very intense short-term tolerance, that takes most people about 3-4 days to shake.
If you want an intense trip, try not to dose too close together - as some tolerance will remain.

The short answer to that question is "about a week" IMO/IME.
 
Sounds like 60-80ug. Lower dose trips are often a lot more scary than high dose trips ime
 
Spacejunk, thanks so much for your answers, they were really helpful.

I was nervous coming up because I had a bad experience on mdma once which hospitalised me and I started to panic, thinking that the initial peak was only the start and it was going to get much more extreme. It didn't though, so I probably wasted the most enjoyable part of the experience.
 
Anxiety can easily spoil your mind set on a trip - which can, in itself, spoil a trip.

If that was the case, maybe you should proceed with a bit more restraint? You'll know what to expect next time, so i expect you'll be able to deal with the trip better.

If there is that anxiety present - and especially if you get some kind of apprehension about losing control on drugs (due to past experiences), you are probably the kind of person that needs to approach acid with caution.
I think it is essential - and inevitable - that you have to "let go" of your sense of "self" if you keep taking acid.

If you find yourself fighting it - which some people do out of self-preservation instinct (or something?) it causes a lot of inner tension.
That can really set you off on a path of negative thoughts, or just dysphoric reaction to the drug.
You become so hyper-aware on LSD, that your thoughts can really impact on how you feel. This might have nothing at all to do with what happened on your trip the other day - but i've seen people go through similar trials and tribulations on acid.
Just my armchair psychiatrist analysis, anyway. Make what you will of it.
But yeah, i'd probably think about increasing your dose by smaller increments than double - increasing your dose by ~50% (assuming that 1 tab = 1 dose).

If you want to confirm that what you're taking is actually LSD (or a lysergamide, at least) - you can get regeant testing kits that can test for acid and a range of other things. Before you take a large dose, it'd be wise to do this.

And i thought of another factor that can have a massive influence on effects - medication.
Are you on anti-depressants or any other meds?
 
Nothing bar multivitamins!

To be honest, I spent a lot of the first two hours trying to document and analyse what was happening to me instead of relaxing and just going with it!

Btw, my biggest concern is it being Nbome, the taste of the blotter was very slightly metallic bitter, which faded in about thirty seconds bar when I chewed the tab before swallowing. I know you can't ID drugs on this forum, but is that the typical taste of lsd or Nbome?
 
Furthermore, I tried to buy a testing kit twice and both times they were intercepted in customs. My 5htp was siezed too (I live in Ireland).
 
^ ah, that really pisses me off, when they seize testing kits.
If you can sacrifice a tab, i believe there are organisations in the UK/Europe who will analyse stuff for you with GC/MS....

The taste thing can be a bit misleading sometimes, because blotter often tastes like the ink that is sprayed all over some tabs in the form of blotter designs. And LSD sometimes has a metallic 'taste' (for want of a better word - its maybe more of a 'metallic sensation' i get when i drop acid sometimes) - so taste isnt foolproof.

Sounds to me like you might benefit from some meditation and stress relief techniquies, especially on the come-up.
I usually find the first hour or so of a trip the most "difficult" or uncomfortable - unlike, say coke or MDMA, where the come-down hurts.
If you can get through the come-up without feeling tense or overly self-analytical, you'll have a better trip.
Sometimes it does actually take a bigger dose to help break through that (because its hard to analyse yourself when you've lost all sense of "self", forgotten your own name and can't work out which way is "up".

But i still think caution is highly advisable.
 
Me too, but that's Ireland for you!

What's the best way to reduce blood pressure and heart rate? That was probably my biggest cause of anxiety!
 
I dunno if there is easy way - acid causes vasoconstriction, which can be uncomfortable but is inevitable.
The best thing to do is deep breathing, meditation, stretching and relaxation techniques.
It tends to feel worse the more you focus on it...
 
Or try some gingko biloba I used to take it to allow for better vein acces in my needle fixation days shit really works!
 
Cheers guys, I also heard lemon oil helps with the Nasua!

Two more things:

As getting a testing kit is relatively impossible (or so it looks), what's the best way to verify that it's acid? I'm genuinely terrified of it being Nbome and ending up a morgue! Beyond that, is Nbome really as dangerous as it's put out to be online?

Also, I'm going to up the ante either this weekend or the next (Waiting for the next sunny Saturday). I'm not too worried about having a bad trip, but I am concerned about flipping out and screaming my head off or doing something dangerous. Is self control possible on a strong bad trip? My room mates are pretty old and would not be okay with me having hallucinations and smashing all the windows or something haha!!

Cheers guys, you're advice so far has been so awesome. Thank you!
 
As getting a testing kit is relatively impossible (or so it looks), what's the best way to verify that it's acid? I'm genuinely terrified of it being Nbome and ending up a morgue! Beyond that, is Nbome really as dangerous as it's put out to be online
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Send a tab to these guys :)
 
Acquiring a reagent test kit is actually very easy. They are completely legal and are easily available online, assuming that you have money and a mailing address.

What happens when you're on acid is highly variable. I've had very different experiences every time I've done it, even when I've taken hits off the same blotter sheet. It really is highly set-setting dependent.
 
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