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LSA. Morning glory experience. Why are they disliked by many ?
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Foreigner
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I've never done LSA before but I'm curious.
Is the "body load" people talk about actually toxicity, or are we talking a body buzz like you'd have with mushrooms? Mushrooms can also have unpleasant physical problems.
My last two mushroom trips, I took mushroom tea that was made with licorice root and ginger root to detoxify and I had no negative body effects. I'm wondering if I could do this with morning glory to avoid some problems.
Sounds like the trip is worth it if you can avoid getting sick.
Would an alcohol extraction be better than a water extraction for these?
Is the "body load" people talk about actually toxicity, or are we talking a body buzz like you'd have with mushrooms? Mushrooms can also have unpleasant physical problems.
My last two mushroom trips, I took mushroom tea that was made with licorice root and ginger root to detoxify and I had no negative body effects. I'm wondering if I could do this with morning glory to avoid some problems.
Sounds like the trip is worth it if you can avoid getting sick.
Would an alcohol extraction be better than a water extraction for these?
Foreigner check the erowid extraction with ether/alcohol its seems very very simple and sounds much more effective than a water one, but i haven't tried it yet.
nausea and body load with hbwr is strange. the worst ive had from it has been from 3 seeds, and have done 8 without any physical discomfort...
nausea and body load with hbwr is strange. the worst ive had from it has been from 3 seeds, and have done 8 without any physical discomfort...
ParappaTheRapper
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For me, the body load isn't so bad, but it's just part of the drug.
In my experience a water extraction is a much different experience. More of a wide, euphoric, trippy drunk, but still a worthwhile trip. Chewing the seeds however makes it more psychedelic imo. More nausea, but ginger does help. I've never done ether extractions or know anyone who has, but this chart makes me believe it may be less effective or atleast not cost/risk worthwhile. An alcohol extraction, and or with peppermint oil allegedly converts the LSA to LSH, being more visual.
(Erowid) Approx Number of Morning Glory Seeds by Exp. Report Intensity (2000)
Light 25, 38, 48, 125, 140, 150, 200, 200, 250, 250, 262 no naptha, 350 naptha,
500 no naptha, 700 starting fluid (heptain, diethyl ether, hexane)
Medium 110, 125 naptha, 154, 240, 245, 300, 315, 315, 315, 315 no naptha,
350, 400, 450, 470 475 no naptha, 500
Strong 280 no naptha, 300 no naptha, 350 no naptha, 400 no naptha,
440 with naptha, 15g (525*) no naptha
* - using 35 seeds per gram for rough estimates
In my experience a water extraction is a much different experience. More of a wide, euphoric, trippy drunk, but still a worthwhile trip. Chewing the seeds however makes it more psychedelic imo. More nausea, but ginger does help. I've never done ether extractions or know anyone who has, but this chart makes me believe it may be less effective or atleast not cost/risk worthwhile. An alcohol extraction, and or with peppermint oil allegedly converts the LSA to LSH, being more visual.
(Erowid) Approx Number of Morning Glory Seeds by Exp. Report Intensity (2000)
Light 25, 38, 48, 125, 140, 150, 200, 200, 250, 250, 262 no naptha, 350 naptha,
500 no naptha, 700 starting fluid (heptain, diethyl ether, hexane)
Medium 110, 125 naptha, 154, 240, 245, 300, 315, 315, 315, 315 no naptha,
350, 400, 450, 470 475 no naptha, 500
Strong 280 no naptha, 300 no naptha, 350 no naptha, 400 no naptha,
440 with naptha, 15g (525*) no naptha
* - using 35 seeds per gram for rough estimates
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bluedolphin
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^^
That's quite the variance in effects per dose. I always found MG seeds to be very predictable to dose. 50 or less was mild. 100-150 was medium, and 200+ was fairly strong (for me).
Then again I almost always ate Bupree Heavenly Blue seeds so maybe that brand is fairly standardized.
That's quite the variance in effects per dose. I always found MG seeds to be very predictable to dose. 50 or less was mild. 100-150 was medium, and 200+ was fairly strong (for me).
Then again I almost always ate Bupree Heavenly Blue seeds so maybe that brand is fairly standardized.
ParappaTheRapper
Ex-Bluelighter
Agreed, + or - 50 seeds or so. Just got saw that chart on erowid, dunno how accurate it is, just seems like more of the numbers for strong are no naptha, who knows.
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Intravenously injecting a butane extraction of MG seeds:
i thought i would include my review of this, since ive finally completed the experiment, first of all id like to say sorry that it took me so long to reply, but i wanted to make sure i had everything lined out before i went through the tedious process of producing this 'lsa' i followed the instructions exactly. and i yield a good amount of the extract, which was a yellowish brown substance. i had four friends willing to help me evaluate this product for quality purposes (before i begin id like to mention that before i evaporated the alcohol off i used a black light and pulling 2ML into a pipette and it did indeed turn a bright neon blue color). so i had 3 peeps that were going to be recieving a dose, and one that was going to recieve a placebo. one took it in capsule form, another took it in a shot of vodka, and yet i had another one that was begging to let him shoot it (i was against this idea, but after making sure he was fully aware of the risk, he wanted to do it anyway.) and i was the observor sitting with my laptop ready to take notes. the capsule took about half an hour to start feeling the effects, he said things were in a dream state, colors with blending with one another and he felt a slight sedation effect, the one who took it in vokda pretty much repeated the last statement, however he was having slightly more visuals, depth perception and time were effected. and lastly, the one who shot it felt the effects within 5 minutes, he was totally out of it, was slow at responding, he couldnt tell what was a 'dream like effect and what was real' he started laughing what seemed to be uncontrollably (which got me started, i found it to be amusing) every 30 minutes i made sure that everyone was feeling 'ok' and to make sure that no one was having ill effects.. about 3 hours into it the person who took the capsule and the vokda mixture both felt slightly queezy to there stomachs, so i gave them both some pepto and laid them on there back which seemed to take care of it, and within a 30 minute period of time the ill effects passed (i did the butane blast, but maybe i didnt use enough) oddly the person who shot it (.25cc rig) didnt have any ill effects, i guess this is from bypassing the digestion tract. the over all all 3 people came down at the same time, around 5 hours after the initial dose (the placebo was pissed cuz he wasnt feelin nothin, so him and i sat back and toked on a bowl of green while we chilled with the others) on another note, about 3 hours into it after everyone was stable but still trippin hard, i decided it was time to take a lil ride since me and mr placebo were still sober.. this wasnt such a bright idea on my part, since the one who shot it tried LEAVING THE VEHICLE at 65 MPH.. but after i explained to him slowely what was going on, he was compliant. i for one have never tripped on LSD for that matter, so i couldnt compair this to it. however i plan a trip of my own, with a sitter this weekend. sorry about not listing dosages, my digis didnt read to the 100th/gm. but to give you an idea of the dosage, picture a penny, now about half that size.. and thats the dosage for all 3 participants.. i hope this shed some light onto the matter! peace folks, and i thank you to all those who helped me on the finer points of this experiment! i look forward to doing another experiment for the folks here on shroomery!
07/13/08, doulovebeef, http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/8631501#8631501
i thought i would include my review of this, since ive finally completed the experiment, first of all id like to say sorry that it took me so long to reply, but i wanted to make sure i had everything lined out before i went through the tedious process of producing this 'lsa' i followed the instructions exactly. and i yield a good amount of the extract, which was a yellowish brown substance. i had four friends willing to help me evaluate this product for quality purposes (before i begin id like to mention that before i evaporated the alcohol off i used a black light and pulling 2ML into a pipette and it did indeed turn a bright neon blue color). so i had 3 peeps that were going to be recieving a dose, and one that was going to recieve a placebo. one took it in capsule form, another took it in a shot of vodka, and yet i had another one that was begging to let him shoot it (i was against this idea, but after making sure he was fully aware of the risk, he wanted to do it anyway.) and i was the observor sitting with my laptop ready to take notes. the capsule took about half an hour to start feeling the effects, he said things were in a dream state, colors with blending with one another and he felt a slight sedation effect, the one who took it in vokda pretty much repeated the last statement, however he was having slightly more visuals, depth perception and time were effected. and lastly, the one who shot it felt the effects within 5 minutes, he was totally out of it, was slow at responding, he couldnt tell what was a 'dream like effect and what was real' he started laughing what seemed to be uncontrollably (which got me started, i found it to be amusing) every 30 minutes i made sure that everyone was feeling 'ok' and to make sure that no one was having ill effects.. about 3 hours into it the person who took the capsule and the vokda mixture both felt slightly queezy to there stomachs, so i gave them both some pepto and laid them on there back which seemed to take care of it, and within a 30 minute period of time the ill effects passed (i did the butane blast, but maybe i didnt use enough) oddly the person who shot it (.25cc rig) didnt have any ill effects, i guess this is from bypassing the digestion tract. the over all all 3 people came down at the same time, around 5 hours after the initial dose (the placebo was pissed cuz he wasnt feelin nothin, so him and i sat back and toked on a bowl of green while we chilled with the others) on another note, about 3 hours into it after everyone was stable but still trippin hard, i decided it was time to take a lil ride since me and mr placebo were still sober.. this wasnt such a bright idea on my part, since the one who shot it tried LEAVING THE VEHICLE at 65 MPH.. but after i explained to him slowely what was going on, he was compliant. i for one have never tripped on LSD for that matter, so i couldnt compair this to it. however i plan a trip of my own, with a sitter this weekend. sorry about not listing dosages, my digis didnt read to the 100th/gm. but to give you an idea of the dosage, picture a penny, now about half that size.. and thats the dosage for all 3 participants.. i hope this shed some light onto the matter! peace folks, and i thank you to all those who helped me on the finer points of this experiment! i look forward to doing another experiment for the folks here on shroomery!
07/13/08, doulovebeef, http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/8631501#8631501
rc_headache28
Bluelighter
Weirdest weekend of my life was on HBR seeds all weekend them thangs Idk what to say Taste like shit that tasted doesnt go away for days and a crazy high body load Try going to the porno shop for nitrous high as hell of lsa I dont recommend it